Danish Aid Workers Rescued by US Military in Somalia

ballsymchugh

any reason to post some south park!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2gfhmI5oBs

Lirange

Happyman42 wrote: »

How far would you go to ensure your children are fed and have a future? You haven't walked in their shoes for a second, have you?

Have you? Do you speak for them? Have you spoken to them?

How do you know the pirates are doing this to feed their kids? And assuming they even have children in what ways are they putting the money towards their future? Have they started a uni fund? Purchased tracts of land for them to herd livestock?

There's reports, albeit unverified, that run counter to those notions. How do we really know? Many from the region say the majority of dosh is used for drugs, booze, women, weapons, and other hedonistic fun warlord activities. Can you show us any verified reports where hard on his luck Johnny of Mogadishu had to turn to piracy to support his ickle podlings and buy grain to put supper on the table?

The behaviour is thuggish. Therefore they are thugs. Despite living in an impoverished chaotic wasteland most Somalians are not turning to piracy to support their livelihoods.

lastlaugh

I don't see why they don't put soldiers on the ships that travel past the Somalian coast or at least have some of the crew trained up on how to use Rocket launchers and heavy Machine guns or something.

These 'Pirates' deserve to be blown away.

Happyman42

Lirange wrote: »

Have you? Do you speak for them? Have you spoken to them?

How do you know the pirates are doing this to feed their kids? And assuming they even have children in what ways are they putting the money towards their future? Have they started a uni fund? Purchased tracts of land for them to herd livestock?

You really need to get out (in the world) more. :rolleyes: And sell that American Little House On The Pairie dream while you are it!

Lirange

Happyman42 wrote: »

You really need to get out (in the world) more. :rolleyes: And sell that American Little House On The Pairie dream while you are it!

You made assumptions. You cannot support them. You're called on it and this is your response?

Happyman42

Lirange wrote: »

You made assumptions. You cannot support them. You're called on it and this is your response?

'Have they started a uni fund?'

:rolleyes::D

token101

Happyman42 wrote: »

What is the average Somalian father or mother supposed to do? Do you always side with the one with the biggest gun? Try putting yourself in their shoes for a wee while and understand their worldview.

Join the Army/Police/Navy/African Union and make their own small effort to try and clean up their s***hole country by killing and capturing as many terrorists and pirates as humanly possible. Tell their kids that these guys are nothing but scum who need to be eradicated by any means necessary and half the reason that nobody will ever consider Somalia for any kind of commercial investment which might make their country even viable. There's a hell of a lot more money in drugs in Ireland than there is in most jobs, would you recommend your kids do that?

I'll side with the people who aren't kidnapping for ransom. I see their point, they're poor and starving. That doesn't make it okay to capture and kill. They're gangs of thugs, nothing more.

ejmaztec

Some people are so anti-American, they just won't have it that whoever suffers the wrath of the American armed forces isn't a harmless victim.

Sure, the Americans walk over some people unnecessarily, but in the case of the Somali pirates, they deserve to be walked over, and worse.

Happyman42

Try turning off your Call Of Duty slayfests and see cause and effect in the real world. These people (originally coastal fisherman) had their very existence destroyed by the rape and plunder of their livelihoods by 'foreign' lawbreakers.

Show Time

Happyman42 wrote: »

How far would you go to ensure your children are fed and have a future? You haven't walked in their shoes for a second, have you?

What if it was a member of your family being held as a hostage? Would you be so willing to walk in their shoes? The Somalia pirates are scum nothing more and well done to SEAL team 9 for putting them down.

token101

Happyman42 wrote: »

Try turning off your Call Of Duty slayfests and see cause and effect in the real world. These people (originally coastal fisherman) had their very existence destroyed by the rape and plunder of their livelihoods by 'foreign' lawbreakers.

Ah, you had me!! For a while I thought you were serious, clever troll reeling us in like that Back under the bridge for yourself now though

Nwm2

biko wrote: »

The ransom they get for prisoners goes towards cleaning up the coast.

Assuming this is not a joke, it's probably the most naive thing I've ever read on the Internet.

Freddie59

ejmaztec wrote: »

There should be a joint international effort to annihilate those feckin pirates.

But you know what would happen then......."look at those warmongering Yanks", etc, etc.:rolleyes:

Freddie59

Happyman42 wrote: »

Try turning off your Call Of Duty slayfests and see cause and effect in the real world. These people (originally coastal fisherman) had their very existence destroyed by the rape and plunder of their livelihoods by 'foreign' lawbreakers.

So it's grand for them to turn into pirates? Hasn't the same happened in Ireland - except it was caused by banks? Should everyone who lost their job start kidnapping people?

ScumLord

These pirates where created by the west, it suits some nations agenda to have these bad guys out there, western companies took advantage of that area and created a monster. The west could easily roll in and solve this problem but I don't think it suits there agenda, it's much better to paint them as "the bad guys" and use them to scare the sheepeople that watch CNN.

ejmaztec wrote: »

Some of the Somali "eco-warriors" allegedly chopped off a Vietnamese captain's arm because the ship-owners wouldn't play ball.

Their not eco warriors or in any way noble they're desperate and ignorant people.

Freddie59

ScumLord wrote: »

they're desperate and ignorant people.

They are scumbag thugs and criminals. End of.

ScumLord

Freddie59 wrote: »

They are scumbag thugs and criminals. End of.

There how they need to be to survive in that place, if you where born there you'd be just the same as them.

biko

http://www.lolblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/somalia.jpg

Happyman42

Freddie59 wrote: »

They are scumbag thugs and criminals. End of.

'Sure isn't the most of Africa'. :rolleyes:

Morlar

Caught this on the news the other day. Well done to the US Military

Son Of A Vidic

The Seals are kicking ass again I see and it was a nice clean clinical job by the looks of it.

spank_inferno

Kudos to the SEAL team involved.

They get the job done.

I've zilch sympathy for the Pirates..... you live by the sword, you die buy it.

Happyman42

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

The Seals are kicking ass again I see and it was a nice clean clinical job by the looks of it.

Unless you are a Somalian of course! :rolleyes:

token101

Happyman42 wrote: »

Unless you are a Somalian of course! :rolleyes:

I'm sure they'd still acknowledge the professionalism of the SEALs if they were still with us

Happyman42

token101 wrote: »

I'm sure they'd still acknowledge the professionalism of the SEALs if they were still with us

While you are sating your bloodlust all the other hostages lives are now in extreme danger and for what? A PR coup for the waning Obama presidency.
It's disgusting how you all take part in this and sanction it with your safe fireside cheering.

ejmaztec

Happyman42 wrote: »

While you are sating your bloodlust all the other hostages lives are now in extreme danger and for what? A PR coup for the waning Obama presidency.
It's disgusting how you all take part in this and sanction by your fireside cheering.

I think you're confusing the rabbits in Watership Down with Somali pirates, an easy mistake to make.:P

Bullseye1

Happyman42 wrote: »

While you are sating your bloodlust all the other hostages lives are now in extreme danger and for what? A PR coup for the waning Obama presidency.
It's disgusting how you all take part in this and sanction by your fireside cheering.

What is your solution?

Happyman42

Bullseye1 wrote: »

What is your solution?

I have already outlined that. The bully boys wouldn't like it though.

Chuck Stone

Happyman42 wrote: »

It's quite amazing to read a thread where Irish people (given our history) cheerlead a nation who habitually refuse to respect the sovereignty of the world's nations (typically the impoverished ones).

I'd be highly critical of US foreign policy but that doesn't stop me from being able to park my criticism to form an opinion on, as I see it, a well planned and executed hostage extraction.

Freddie59

ScumLord wrote: »

There how they need to be to survive in that place, if you where born there you'd be just the same as them.

And this excuses it?