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An open letter from Boards.ie to Minister Sean Sherlock

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    #662
    PJTierney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    Willie O' Dea's on our side it seems (no printed script either :))


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    #663
    PJTierney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    Ah, somebody used the Toll Roads analogy! :cool:


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    #664
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Not really fair to claim the ISPs want piracy to prevail or that it does their bottom line better. I'm not sure but I'd say OscarBravo as someone that runs one could confirm, ISP's would much prefer if you had the internet for social networking, email and some light downloads rather than bandwidth hogging piracy.
    Correct. That's one of a number of issues I had with Charleton J.'s judgement: he operated on the apparent assumption that every act of piracy was in some way profitable for UPC, as if the downloaders were paying their ISP by the torrent. This ignores the fact that we have to pay for our upstream bandwidth, and the more torrenting that goes on, the more bandwidth we have to pay for to keep the pipes flowing.

    It might be different for those ISPs who are happy to cash in on per-usage charges, but not all of us operate on that basis.


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    #665
    Arfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭Arfan


    There's a lot of reading from e-mails going on ;). Not that that's a bad thing. No need to write a speech if someone's taken the trouble to do it for you. Also the ideal situation for an ISP is where everyone buys 1 terabyte pipe and then checks their email once a month. Ah, for a perfect world.


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    #666
    Jev/N
    Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    Arfan wrote: »
    There's a lot of reading from e-mails going on ;). Not that that's a bad thing. No need to write a speech if someone's taken the trouble to do it for you.

    Certainly, but I feel that the amount of misinformation, not only on Sean Sherlock's side, is stemming from such emails


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    #667
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    This is bull.


    Sherlock reads boards! Who is he?!


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    #668
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Ha I rish TD concerned about wasting taxpayers money! Also does Sherlock know the difference between a website, a host and an ISP?

    Well done though on finally highlighting the problem that Netflix and such will fix.


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    #669
    dahamsta
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    You'rev wasting your time with Bruton folks, he's as corporate as it gets. Might as well have Sponsored By IMRO on his back.


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    #670
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,542 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    "I DONT BELIEVE THIS WILL BE USED BY COMPANIES TO...."


    O thanks, I feel so reassured now. :rolleyes:


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    #671
    PJTierney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    Did he just say "nerd"?


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    #672
    PJTierney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    "The Keyboard Warrior"

    Now there's a tagline.


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    #673
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,542 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    PJTierney wrote: »
    "The Keyboard Warrior" Now there's a tagline.

    Can't believe a middle-aged TD from Cork has just said 'Keyboard Warrior' :D


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    #674
    Jev/N
    Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    AdamD wrote: »
    "I DONT BELIEVE THIS WILL BE USED BY COMPANIES TO...."


    O thanks, I feel so reassured now. :rolleyes:

    Exactly. Not like anyone has been pushed into this by big companies already....


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    #675
    MOH
    Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭MOH


    What on earth is Buttimer on about? We're trying to be the hub of online gaming in the Western World?


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    #676
    PJTierney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    "...the Internet Community. I'm making myself available at this time to talk to them."

    So yeah, shoot him a message if you want to discuss the issue in more detail.


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    #677
    PJTierney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    MOH wrote: »
    What on earth is Buttimer on about? We're trying to be the hub of online gaming in the Western World?
    I'm not sure if it's still the same now as it was then, but back in the days of the PlayStation 2, Ireland was second only to Japan in terms of how often they played games, bought them etc.


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    #678
    MOH
    Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭MOH


    How many small Irish copyright holder can afford to take such an injunction?


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    #679
    PJTierney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    Boards is being mentioned now :cool:


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    #680
    skelliser
    Registered Users Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    he whats them to enter into voluntary arrangements!

    eircom and irma entered into a voluntary arrangement and the pirate bay got blocked.

    voluntary arrangements will end in censorship.


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    #681
    MOH
    Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭MOH


    PJTierney wrote: »
    Boards is being mentioned now :cool:

    It's all Sherlock's spoken about all afternoon. :)

    Donnelly is quite good


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    #682
    PJTierney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    Just heard a Mario coin ringtone/message alert in the Dáil :confused:


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    #683
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,542 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Whoever this bald guy is hes amazing


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    #684
    MOH
    Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭MOH


    AdamD wrote: »
    Whoever this bald guy is hes amazing

    Stephen Donnelly. I might have to move to Wicklow.


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    #685
    PJTierney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    "(The copyright law of) 1980 was 12 years ago" :confused:

    [edit] Sherlock mentions the 2000 act, O'Dea nearly facepalms :D


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    #686
    Jev/N
    Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    1980 - 12 years ago... good man Willie :D


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    #687
    MOH
    Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭MOH


    what year does Willie O'Dea think it is?!
    1980 was 12 years ago??!!


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    #688
    MOH
    Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭MOH


    I think it's pretty clear to anyone by now that Sherlock has been paid off. By Boards!

    He's mentioned it about 20 times now.


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    #689
    Jev/N
    Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    "The State is exposed"... ah FFS Sean - the State is not, it's just EMI & Others have a gun to your empty heads


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    #690
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,542 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    I don't know much about how these things work so would appreciate some help;

    How is this supposed to get passed? Does it get voted on? Because even within the TDs he seems on his own here, surely if he still proceeds to pass this, democracy is out the window.


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    #691
    skelliser
    Registered Users Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    so he is still going ahead with it.

    hes taking everyones opinions on board but there wrong.

    well thats that


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