Oi Paddy!

Meow_Meow

Esel wrote: »

Just out of interest, what was 2nd prize? :pac

A trip to RTE?
Nah, I think it was an iPod or something

fitz265

i was in england wance got a taxi that usaly cost us 5 pound the taxi person on this particular night said 25 pound please we said it usaly cost us 5 pound he said yeah mate thats the rate usaly given to people who arent irish we got ot and hit running so he didnt get hes 5pound nat ta mind hes special 25pound rate for us irish. true or false yer own disgresion

Jimoslimos

Topper Harley wrote: »

I'd say that this combined with some people's assumptions of the English based on English football fans behaviour during the early 90s and lager louts on sun holidays all being assumed to be English has possibly tarnished their reputation somewhat.

Not sure if this can be regarded as the case anymore. Certainly on the continent most countries have club football fans, whose behaviour is far worse than any seen these days by English fans. Italian & Dutch fans have a bad rep too, and that's before moving east towards Serbia, Russia and a lot of the former Soviet states. Bar a few unsavoury chants, the FA have done a better job than many of their continental counterparts.

Topper Harley wrote: »

I'm sure the same happens the other way too. I've heard that lately the reputation of the Irish in Australia has taken a hit because of a lot of loutish behaviour, although most normal Australians won't constantly bitch about this to a random Irish person they meet but would happily do so to an English/Scottish/Welsh person.

This is very true.

Meow_Meow wrote: »

Ahh, also met David Trimble at an event in London who refused to shake my hand when he was informed that I was from Dublin. Awkward.

Always maintained that it was a travesty that Hume had to share the Nobel Peace prize with Trimble, a man who had to be pleaded with and coerced to enter the fray, - and only then when it suited him and his agenda

Explosions in the Sky

Teddy455 wrote: »

Has someone just update his wiki page?

Ha Ha

maninasia

User Friendly wrote: »

Excellent Watson!i knew celts fans called gers fans huns but i didnt know the history.... cheers.

Actually I guess it goes back to this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry_of_Elizabeth_II

Queen Elizabeth II is the male-line great-granddaughter of Edward VII, who inherited the crown from his mother, Queen Victoria. His father, Victoria's consort, was Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha; hence Queen Elizabeth is a patrilineal descendant of Albert's family, the German princely House of Wettin.

The British called the Germans 'huns' during WWI and roundabouts. I'm guessing racial abuse goes back a long way in Glasgow!

old_aussie

Hey skippy.

Sindri

old_aussie wrote: »

Hey skippy.

Go eat some beets ye tanned criminal bastid

Gyalist

LK_Dave wrote: »

Got called a blood-clot once in Harlesden once by a drunk black guy. Being around the world and got called Paddy, Irish or IRA loads of times. Never worried me.

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I've never heard that. What does it mean? Is it racial?

LOL. No, it's not racial. It's just a general all-purpose Jamaican swear word though it can also used as an insult similar to the way Americans call someone a douche/bag. It's a reference to soiled female sanitary products.

bloodclaat bloodclat

tallaghtmick

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Arthur Guinness, like a lot of his "Class" was Anglo Irish.

Whether that made them English or Irish depends on how good or bad they were.

If he had evicted a few tenants during the famine, he would have been English, but as he invented a beer famous the world over, he is Irish.

That's how I see it anyway.

He was Protestant but was a proud Irishman.

tallaghtmick

Sindri wrote: »

I added that to his Wikipedia page.:D:D:D

Meow_Meow wrote: »

Because Irish people generally appear to be more sympathetic to those who are being occupied than the occupier. We are more interested in peace keeping missions than expanding our influence abroad or playing games in the Middle East.



LOL! Just saw it XD
It's all fun and games til it ends up in an arts student's history essay :P

Trimble is the son of William and Ivy Trimble, and grew up in a lower-middle class Presbyterian home in Bangor on the County Down coast.[6][7] He was educated at Bangor Grammar School in Bangor, County Down (1956–63).[8]
He then studied at Queen's University of Belfast (QUB) from 1964 to 1968, winning the McKane Medal for Jurisprudence.[8] There he received a first class honours degree (the first at Queens in three years), becoming a Bachelor of Laws (LL.B).[9][10]
He would not shake a persons hand because they were from Dublin.

love it.

positron

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

While part of your post shows clear prejudice and racism, the part in bold isn't. While it may not have been the wisest way to phrase it, 30 years ago there were very few foreign people living in Ireland, particularly those of a different ethnicity. It certainly wasn't abuse he was giving and his remarks reflect more of a generational gap than anything else.

There was no need to bite your tongue for that.

See how you said 'different ethnicity'. As I had 'quoted' in the original post, I was referring to his use of the term 'coloured people', rather than what he was saying. Anyway, I agree it wasn't a malicious comment at all - especially compared to other experiences I've had.

Mance Rayder

Got mistaken for being English several times but never in a racist way. They see your white and hear your speaking english so obviously they assume your english.

In Ukraine whenever I tried to buy beer I was always offered Stella first, when I said no thanks I'm actually Irish they would say, ahhhhh Whiskey then?

In Amsterdam I met a man working in a shop with a heavy Cork accent. He was Dutch and had never been to Ireland, but he worked in an Irish bar since he was young, and learned English from cork men and women. He sounded more Irish than me!

Anyway this thread is about racism so I will add my story. Lived in Northern Enlgand for a year and was NEVER called Paddy or anything like it people were very nice. Was in London for a few hours and was called Paddy.

wilkie2006

Fr D Maugire wrote: »

There did seem to be this thing of it was ok to say whatever about an Irish person but jeez, if the same kinda things were thrown at a black or asian person, well end ot the world.

wilkie2006 wrote: »

Ah, it's not really the same though, is it? We're not a vulnerable ethnic minority.

bwatson wrote: »

There are 1.2 billion people in India alone. I'd hardly say that asians could be classed as a vulnerable ethnic minority.

They become ethnic minorities when they emigrate to another country. BME migrants are the poorest, most socially excluded people in Europe (and probably The States too). On the other hand, Irish people - for at least the last 20 years - have achieved social and economic parity with most (if not all) of the indigenous people in our host migrant countries.

Contemporary racism against Irish people lacks the severity, frequency and broader implications as it does for, say, a Nigerian or an Indian. While we might be considered an ethnic minority abroad, Irish people are certainly not "vulnerable" anymore. Anti-Irish racism - although abhorrent - cannot be considered the same as, say, anti-African racism.

Mance Rayder

wilkie2006 wrote: »

They become ethnic minorities when they emigrate to another country. BME migrants are the poorest, most socially excluded people in Europe (and probably The States too). On the other hand, Irish people - for at least the last 20 years - have achieved social and economic parity with most (if not all) of the indigenous people in our host migrant countries.

Contemporary racism against Irish people lacks the severity, frequency and broader implications as it does for, say, a Nigerian or an Indian. While we might be considered an ethnic minority abroad, Irish people are certainly not "vulnerable" anymore. Anti-Irish racism - although abhorrent - cannot be considered the same as, say, anti-African racism.

Go for a pint after dark on the Shankill road in Belfast and tell me how timid anti Irish Racism is.

Yahew

wilkie2006 wrote: »

They become ethnic minorities when they emigrate to another country. BME migrants are the poorest, most socially excluded people in Europe (and probably The States too). On the other hand, Irish people - for at least the last 20 years - have achieved social and economic parity with most (if not all) of the indigenous people in our host migrant countries.

Contemporary racism against Irish people lacks the severity, frequency and broader implications as it does for, say, a Nigerian or an Indian. While we might be considered an ethnic minority abroad, Irish people are certainly not "vulnerable" anymore. Anti-Irish racism - although abhorrent - cannot be considered the same as, say, anti-African racism.

Horse-poo. A racist chant, or verbal attack is a racist attack. Using words like "its a bit Irish" are clearly racist, and are based on ethnic superiority . The fact that is acceptable and "that a bit black" is not, shows Irish people probably have it worse.

As for Irish people's position in the UK, not really running anything.

Yahew

CiscoStudent wrote: »

Go for a pint after dark on the Shankill road in Belfast and tell me how timid anti Irish Racism is.

Whats interesting, in fact, is how in a State where they are beating themselves up 20 years after Stephen Lawrence doesn't even report this incident

catholic film extra teen left for dead after sectarian attack.

wilkie2006

CiscoStudent wrote: »

Go for a pint after dark on the Shankill road in Belfast and tell me how timid anti Irish Racism is.

I'm making a much broader point. Northern Ireland is completely different.

Celly Smunt

CiscoStudent wrote: »

Go for a pint after dark on the Shankill road in Belfast and tell me how timid anti Irish Racism is.

I always drink in the Berlin or rangers club instead of the scummy falls and i have a thick Dublin accent and support celtic.
Your comment shows how often you're up there with all your experience :rolleyes:

oppenheimer1

positron wrote: »

See how you said 'different ethnicity'. As I had 'quoted' in the original post, I was referring to his use of the term 'coloured people', rather than what he was saying. Anyway, I agree it wasn't a malicious comment at all - especially compared to other experiences I've had.

His use of the term "coloured people" isn't racist because for a word or phrase to be racism depends on the context. There was nothing negative about you implied by what he said, it was just an observation.

30 years ago "coloured people" would have been the PC term for non-whites in this country. Not everyone keeps up to speed and older generations often keep their words and phrases even if they seem outdated or unusual to others. As I said, this encounter was more about a generational gap (and possibly culture shock) than anything else. Why did you bite your tongue when you were engaged in a friendly conversation and weren't being abused?

You have suffered racial abuse (which I find abhorrent) but this instance wasn't one of them.

User Friendly

Indeed the description coloured was used by the Nigerian taxi (who was in the national news recently)driver when describing himself.http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0105/1224309831064.html

woodoo

pmcmahon wrote: »

I always drink in the Berlin or rangers club instead of the scummy falls and i have a thick Dublin accent and support celtic.
Your comment shows how often you're up there with all your experience :rolleyes:

Are you saying you drink in the shankill road and never get any ill feeling?

IrishEyes19

Temptamperu wrote: »

That happened me in Bulgeria, I arived at a cigg shop and he wouldnt serve me and then called me a british **** :eek: I told him I was Irish not english and he apologised and gave me smokes for free :cool:

Same issue when I was in France years back, only it was weird. Stopped for a few hours in a small french village, like something out of 1920's, went into a small shop to get a bottle of water and was with my friend at the time. Soon as we walked in, heads turned in there, very close knit village. They were mumbling to each other. I picked up bottle of water, paid for it. the cashier is staring at us like we murdered her whole family or something, it was really horrible like we were scum or something and as we left the shop, the cashier screams after us AUFWEIDERSEHEN!!! (Goodbye in German)

To which my friend was so repulsed. She yells back "SLAN F****RS"

bloody war like. I realised then my friend actually looked like the perfect german woman. blonde haired, blue eyes ect.....:D Freaking weird though. Like a village stuck in some timewarp.

mandrake04

I been called Paddy loads of times in Oz, am far from offended and think of it more as a term of endearment. I often refer to other Irish people as Paddys or Biddies and those wannabe Irish as Plastic Paddies. You get the typical Irish jokes the odd time but I usually give it back depending on the background of the Aussie (Italian/Greek/German/Questionable Parentage).

Trying to insult an Aussie by calling him a convict is a bit pointless, being from convict stock is now considered Australian royalty by many and ironically many convicts were Irish political prisoners from the rebellions of '98 and '68.

Australia is not the most PC country in world and having something like 200+ diiferent nationalities there are many others who are more deserving of a good sledging or hammering than Irish people who would be considered founding members of the country.

domkk

Fratton Fred wrote: »

good god, why would anyone pay money to watch morris dancers?

are you mad

I once got taken to watch these once so I did .

www.coconutters.co.uk/history.htm

dejopadu

in harlem new york a few years ago & a black guy called me VANILLA FACE )))))

made my day, lol

Gareth2011

I was working for an english traffic management company here and the guy who was training me told me they call the "men at work" signs (paddys). For some reason the english seem to think we invented the man with the shovel sign.

dejopadu

mandrake - if u want to offend an ozzie call him Skippy, they go fookin mental haha

domkk

CiscoStudent wrote: »

Its only soccor!

What is soccor?
Is this him?!
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccor_Velho

domkk

fitz265 wrote: »

i was in england wance got a taxi that usaly cost us 5 pound the taxi person on this particular night said 25 pound please we said it usaly cost us 5 pound he said yeah mate thats the rate usaly given to people who arent irish we got ot and hit running so he didnt get hes 5pound nat ta mind hes special 25pound rate for us irish. true or false yer own disgresion

is this Kerry-English WTF!

OneArt

Once when my mam was giving out to my brother he told her to go back to her own country.

IcedOut

dejopadu wrote: »

in harlem new york a few years ago & a black guy called me VANILLA FACE )))))

made my day, lol

The same happend to me a few years back.

I responded ''Hello sh!t head'' :pac:

domkk

IcedOut wrote: »

The same happend to me a few years back.

I responded ''Hello sh!t head'' :pac:

if he had white hair you could have said shut it Guinness (lol) :);):)

mandrake04

dejopadu wrote: »

mandrake - if u want to offend an ozzie call him Skippy, they go fookin mental haha

If you called an Aussie a skippy they would probably just laugh, you would end up looking like some sort of pathetic imbecile.

It's sort of hard to insult an Aussie, sarcarsim is the first language of Australia and strine second. Like for example an Aussie will call his worst enemy a 'bit of a bastard' and his best mate 'a complete bastard'. That's the way it is.

You could try calling them a Bogan (like a Knacker) but most would find that a term of endearment.

Doc Ruby

mandrake04 wrote: »

It's sort of hard to insult an Aussie

Its really not, calling them criminals is usually an invitation to impotent rage and I've never had the opportunity to call one skippy but I shall indulge at the earliest opportunity.

DEFTLEFTHAND

One of my favorites was from my time in Kalgoorlie. I was swimming in my girlfriend at the time's pool and the temperature rose to a high degree even for Aus. Her father told us to head inside, I took a little longer to emerge from the pool and I overheard the Dad saying that the stupid Irish Bastard doesn't understand the Sun. I held my tongue as I was raised better than to engage with such trash.

mandrake04

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Its really not, calling them criminals is usually an invitation to impotent rage and I've never had the opportunity to call one skippy but I shall indulge at the earliest opportunity.

Did you read my post #274? and as for Skippy the Oz Rugby team calls themselves Wallabies FFS. Skippy is usually just another name for a wallaby.

It would be like calling someone from Cork a rebel, since they are from the rebel county.

meglome

bwatson wrote: »

Your anecdote does nothing to prove your initial statement.

In my experiences British travellers are recieved with the same general apathy as those from just about every other European nation.

It wouldn't particularly bother me if some simpletons abroad had a bad view of British people abroad anyway, it takes little effort to simply avoid these people.

Several times over the years I've had people be hostile to me but we're very friendly when they realised/we're told I was Irish and not British. You may not want it to be true but it is.

Doc Ruby

mandrake04 wrote: »

Did you read my post #274?

I did, and very entertaining I found it too.

Richard

mandrake04 wrote: »

Did you read my post #274? and as for Skippy the Oz Rugby team calls themselves Wallabies FFS. Skippy is usually just another name for a wallaby.

Isn't Skippy a kangaroo, as in Skippy the Bush Kangaroo?

PirateShampoo

This thread started off pretty funny, then it turned into 20 paged of "they thought I was English" stories.

dejopadu

calling an ozzie skippy is like calling an irish lad paddy, some dont mind it, some do - i didnt like the ozzie guys on the building site calling me a paddy so i started calling the ozzie guys skip or skippy - they stopped calling me paddy after about 2 days

Topper Harley

PirateShampoo wrote: »

This thread started off pretty funny, then it turned into 20 paged of "they thought I was English" stories.

20 pages? Weak. With the right options selected it would only be 8.