Single Parents Protest!

sophia25

Well as AH are great at stereotyping single parents, perhaps they want to see the website & facebook page they have set up for their protest on Feb 18th . They have done a submission to advisory board in dept. of protection, mission statement etc. Does that shatter any preconceived notions or do people not want to understand the issues?

http://sparkcampaign.com/

https://www.facebook.com/irishsingleparentsfightback


All welcome to join in!:)

ejmaztec

sophia25 wrote: »

Well as AH are great at stereotyping single parents, perhaps they want to see the website & facebook page they have set up for their protest on Feb 18th . They have done a submission to advisory board in dept. of protection, mission statement etc. Does that shatter any preconceived notions or do people not want to understand the issues?

http://sparkcampaign.com/

https://www.facebook.com/irishsingleparentsfightback


All welcome to join in!:)

If you're not a single parent, does this mean that you have to murder your partner so's you can join?

juan.kerr

I'm confused - are we protesting in favour of or against single parents?

sophia25

juan.kerr wrote: »

I'm confused - are we protesting in favour of or against single parents?

Mmmm is the website too confusing for you?? We can simplify it for you, if you need it.

gcgirl

You should have put this in the parental forum the apes here it might be a little too much for their brains to take in.

ejmaztec

gcgirl wrote: »

You should have put this in the parental forum the apes here it might be a little too much for their brains to take in.

Kevin Duffy

sophia25 wrote: »

Well as AH are great at stereotyping single parents, perhaps they want to see the website & facebook page they have set up for their protest on Feb 18th . They have done a submission to advisory board in dept. of protection, mission statement etc. Does that shatter any preconceived notions or do people not want to understand the issues?

http://sparkcampaign.com/

https://www.facebook.com/irishsingleparentsfightback


All welcome to join in!:)

You know AH is more than one person and there's more than one opinion, right?
Maybe it's just me, but if I was looking for support and criticising generalisations, I wouldn't start with a generalised criticism of potential supporters.

token101

sophia25 wrote: »

Mmmm is the website too confusing for you?? We can simplify it for you, if you need it.

Yeah if you wouldn't mind! I'm at work and the link is blocked apparently it's inappropriate! What exactly are single mothers protesting about? Who's minding the kids? Will they be left to their own devices to fight off the likes of Joe Pesci?

gcgirl

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

sophia25 wrote: »

Well as AH are great at stereotyping single parents, perhaps they want to see the website & facebook page they have set up for their protest on Feb 18th . They have done a submission to advisory board in dept. of protection, mission statement etc. Does that shatter any preconceived notions or do people not want to understand the issues?

http://sparkcampaign.com/

https://www.facebook.com/irishsingleparentsfightback


All welcome to join in!:)

You know AH is more than one person and there's more than one opinion, right?
Maybe it's just me, but if I was looking for support and criticising generalisations, I wouldn't start with a generalised criticism of potential supporters.

Where do I start ???

Dohnny Jepp

gcgirl wrote: »

You should have put this in the parental forum the apes here it might be a little too much for their brains to take in.

Excuse me while I try find the fcuk I was going to give. . .
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Sorry can't find it.

mikemac1

sophia25 wrote: »

Well as AH are great at stereotyping single parents,

sophia25 wrote: »

All welcome to join in!:)

Do you even want our opinion?


edit: Kevin Duffy asked already above

juan.kerr

sophia25 wrote: »

Mmmm is the website too confusing for you?? We can simplify it for you, if you need it.

Looks like you may need to. We all want to be ringfenced by the cuts (other than the Croke Park beneficiaries). The reality is we can't all be.

Kevin Duffy

gcgirl wrote: »

Where do I start ???

Where would you start with what what? A critique of what I said? Anywhere you like and carefully explain what was inaccurate about it.

Plazaman

gcgirl wrote: »

You should have put this in the parental forum the apes here it might be a little too much for their brains to take in.

Pffftt, nonsense. I'm empathise with this demographic. Everyone should be a singing parent as music is food for the soul. Is there sheet music available if we want to join in the protest? Should sound great.

westendgirlie

I can't click the links. What's occurring?

stovelid

Will there be lots of hot, gullible women there?

gcgirl

juan.kerr wrote: »

sophia25 wrote: »

Mmmm is the website too confusing for you?? We can simplify it for you, if you need it.

Looks like you may need to. We all want to be ringfenced by the cuts (other than the Croke Park beneficiaries). The reality is we can't all be.

Simplify it, the cut on the ce scheme basically stops lone parents from working, where as the minister is cutting her nose of despite her face, saying that she does not want people to be dependent on SW but making it impossible for lone parents to try and not depend on SW.

Jim_Kiy

Is Kevin Meyers giving any speeches?might attend if he is.

juan.kerr

Can we start a protest against single parents?

I was listening to Niall Boylan on 4fm the other night. They were talking about single mothers with 3 or more children all with different fathers and the reluctance to put the fathers name on the birth cert so they could get their full 'entitlements'.

mikemac1

A lobby group so

S.P.A.R.K. is a diverse group of single parents living in Ireland who have united together to protect our children from the radical policy changes introduced in Budget 2012.

"I know cuts are inevitable........just cut someone else and leave us alone"


Nothing wrong with this, every group wants as much money and and as little pain as possible

westendgirlie

stovelid wrote: »

Will there be lots of hot, gullible women there?

Keep your lid on it though Stove, these ones are quite fertile

gcgirl

stovelid wrote: »

Will there be lots of hot, gullible women there?

The average age of a line parent is 37 so if your after cougars you might be in luck

juan.kerr

westendgirlie wrote: »

Keep your lid on it though Stove, these ones are quite fertile

They have even been known to have immaculate conceptions.

sophia25

juan.kerr wrote: »

Looks like you may need to. We all want to be ringfenced by the cuts (other than the Croke Park beneficiaries). The reality is we can't all be.

OK how about for starters, did you know that if you work as a single parnt and are let go, you now have to go on OPFA. Guess what on OPFA you can't do jobbridge!

We can do CE schemes for €20 a week but hav to fund childcare out of this €20???

We are forced longterm on SW and do not have same opportunities as others.

To do a fas course, we have to pay €25 for childcare, we only get an additional €29.80 per week for a child so if we do course left with €4.80 to feed and clothe child.

Shall I go on, or is it clear that the budget is forcing single parents out of training oe work experiences??

stovelid

gcgirl wrote: »

The average age of a line parent is 37 so if your after cougars you might be in luck

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/259429/259429,1274386706,1/stock-vector-dollar-jackpot-winning-in-slot-machine-vector-53533063.jpg

mikemac1

€25 for childcare is incredible

There are people paying hundreds and hundreds per month, almost a second mortgage

stovelid

juan.kerr wrote: »

They have even been known to have immaculate conceptions.

I'm just having a laugh.

No wish to go down the road you appear to be travelling on.

juan.kerr

Can someone help answer a question I have about the term 'bastard'.

One of the definitions from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bastard is 'a person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child.'

So can a girl be a bastard?

gcgirl

juan.kerr wrote: »

Can we start a protest against single parents?

I was listening to Niall Boylan on 4fm the other night. They were talking about single mothers with 3 or more children all with different fathers and the reluctance to put the fathers name on the birth cert so they could get their full 'entitlements'.

Epic fail
Any lone parent i know have the dads name on the birth cert
I have 3 kids by the same dad his on the birthcert wow like
Why should I make my kids be brought up in a home where it's hostile or walking on egg shells all the time, best thing we did was break up, we actually after a lot of crap get along better

graceanseo

This SPARK group have acheived a lot in a very short time and they are committed to the long haul, it's not simply about reversing the cuts. It's about a change in Social Policy. It's about the long term. People parenting alone are not the stereotype that the government has happily let you all buy into with their well time media reports. Any parent could become a lone parent at anytime, nobody knows what's around the corner be it death, relationship breakdown, mental health issues the list goes on. Nobody can deny the facts and the facts clearly show that people parenting alone are being discriminated against every which way they turn to try and improve their situation. I say Viva La Revolution!!!

stovelid

juan.kerr wrote: »

Can someone help answer a question I have about the term 'bastard'.

One of the definitions from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bastard is 'a person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child.'

So can a girl be a bastard?

That's pretty horrible, to be honest.

mikemac1

May seem horrible but it's a legal term

Law books reference it

Words change over time, what was acceptable once and can seem unacceptable now

westendgirlie

Total crap Sophie! I have the same opportunties as any other adult. And shock, horror, I probably have more income benefits as a single mum with 2 kids than a married couple. I certainly get the same credits as them!

What you gonna do when your kids grow up? Cry that 188 isn't enough for you now?

graceanseo

€25 is indeed excellent, magical even especially when one's travel costs to works are added, taken from the €28 extra lone parents in that particular situation receive and hey presto these people are coming out with LESS than they started with.

juan.kerr

stovelid wrote: »

That's pretty horrible, to be honest.

My intention was not to insult / shock and it isn't a troll post. Just looking for an answer.

stovelid

mikemac1 wrote: »

May seem horrible but it's a legal term

Law books reference it

Words change over time, what was acceptable once and can seem unacceptable now

Think it's the sly implication in the deployment of the phrase in this thread rather than the phrase itself.

Maybe I'm wrong.

mikemac1

Well Juan has explained himself above

Can't ask for more then that

graceanseo

westendgirlie wrote: »

Total crap Sophie! I have the same opportunties as any other adult. And shock, horror, I probably have more income benefits as a single mum with 2 kids than a married couple. I certainly get the same credits as them!

What you gonna do when your kids grow up? Cry that 188 isn't enough for you now?

Laugh Out Loud at your ignorance - seriously! or maybe your simply not aware of the proposed changes to the Social Welfare system. Your ignorance speaks volumes

westendgirlie

graceanseo wrote: »

€25 is indeed excellent, magical even especially when one's travel costs to works are added, taken from the €28 extra lone parents in that particular situation receive and hey presto these people are coming out with LESS than they started with.

Grace, they can apply for FIS. Probably keep a portion of their one parenet, keep medical cards and also have entitlement to the back to school allowances.

It isn't a bad deal

gcgirl

Same **** different day all I can say is thank feck I've was not born with the begrugdery gene nor would I make someone in a difficult relationship stay in it, how many of our parents did and that's why people think its normal to behave in such a way. Not good

graceanseo

juan.kerr wrote: »

Can we start a protest against single parents?

I was listening to Niall Boylan on 4fm the other night. They were talking about single mothers with 3 or more children all with different fathers and the reluctance to put the fathers name on the birth cert so they could get their full 'entitlements'.

complete urban legend, utter bull ****e

gcgirl

westendgirlie wrote: »

graceanseo wrote: »

€25 is indeed excellent, magical even especially when one's travel costs to works are added, taken from the €28 extra lone parents in that particular situation receive and hey presto these people are coming out with LESS than they started with.

Grace, they can apply for FIS. Probably keep a portion of their one parenet, keep medical cards and also have entitlement to the back to school allowances.

It isn't a bad deal

There's a cut off for btsa along with every so called entitlement and low paid married couple can apply for it to you know

The King of Moo

Almost everyone's suffering folks.

Bitching and arguing about who's being screwed more isn't going to help anyone and I'm sure the government are happy to see people so this and distract themselves from the big payouts (bondholders, pensions and bonuses etc.) that are more worthy of getting angry about and that are haemmorhaging money that could be much better spent.

up for anything

token101 wrote: »

Yeah if you wouldn't mind! I'm at work and the link is blocked apparently it's inappropriate! What exactly are single mothers protesting about? Who's minding the kids? Will they be left to their own devices to fight off the likes of Joe Pesci?

You read what you wanted to read! The OP didn't mention single mothers. :rolleyes:

juan.kerr wrote: »

Can we start a protest against single parents?

I was listening to Niall Boylan on 4fm the other night. They were talking about single mothers with 3 or more children all with different fathers and the reluctance to put the fathers name on the birth cert so they could get their full 'entitlements'.

juan.kerr wrote: »

They have even been known to have immaculate conceptions.

They might as well be because the fathers obviously make like the shadow of the the holy Spirit* and disappear just a quickly. You seem to be another one of those singling out the mothers rather than sleazeball gits who shoot their load in them and then move on to do the same in another dozen girls without taking a single shred of responsibility for their sperm dumps.

I'm another one of those oddballs who have four children by the same man, he's even named on the marriage cert and birth cert, but of course, I'm in the minority. The whole of Ireland is overrun with with pyjama wearing single mothers pushing brand new brands and their brats are dressed in Hollister!






*"The holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you." Angel Gabriel to Mary.

sophia25

mikemac1 wrote: »

€25 for childcare is incredible

There are people paying hundreds and hundreds per month, almost a second mortgage

EXACTLY. Impossible for most single parents to manage on their own and hence forces them reluctantly out of the labour market. Budget 2012 makes it nigh on impossible to get a foot back on the ladder.

token101

You know what's cheaper than childcare though? Jonnies. Just saying.

westendgirlie

graceanseo wrote: »

Laugh Out Loud at your ignorance - seriously! or maybe your simply not aware of the proposed changes to the Social Welfare system. Your ignorance speaks volumes

Laugh out loud all you like. If I am ignorant for being a WORKING SINGLE MOTHER then so be it.

I already said I couldn't click the above links.

May I ask do you work? Or are you taking the defeatest " I can't work because bla bla bla" line?

up for anything

juan.kerr wrote: »

Can someone help answer a question I have about the term 'bastard'.

One of the definitions from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bastard is 'a person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child.'

So can a girl be a bastard?

Person/child... what do you think? Unless a female is neither a person or a child? Are you really puzzled about this question or just looking to stir shit?

graceanseo

westendgirlie wrote: »

Grace, they can apply for FIS. Probably keep a portion of their one parenet, keep medical cards and also have entitlement to the back to school allowances.

It isn't a bad deal

Back to School Allowance has been further cut and wouldn't cover a childs basic needs such as books and uniform. FIS does not take chilcare expenses into account and is most lightly going next year anyhow. It's funny the assumption here too that the vast majority of lone parents are at this level of education. The general public like to think they're well informed but in fact the media controls you.

mcmoustache

gcgirl wrote: »

You should have put this in the parental forum the apes here it might be a little too much for their brains to take in.

Cop on. There's some great whit to be found in here sometimes. This forum is for having a bit of craic so posts here will invite a bit of slagging. That's what it's for.

I agree that perhaps the post might be better off being made in the Parenting forum if serious responses are required but there's no need to tar AH with such a broad brush.

Also, I have a hangover and I found it very hard to parse that sentence of yours. I think you left out a word somewhere. It's the weekend. Please be considerate to other users who may be nursing sore heads.

gcgirl

token101 wrote: »

You know what's cheaper than childcare though? Jonnies. Just saying.

Lol
I know a guy who was married had 5 kids who assaulted his wife while pregnant and have countless affairs do you think that marriage was a: good for her or b: good for the kids, fair play to the woman who had the balls to feck him out in the end but it took her 15 years