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UFC/MMA etc crossover Thread *Spoilers for latest show*

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    #722
    Diabhal Beag
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    Jones was initially treated as the ultimate babyface until he kept ****ing up. It's gas to show how badly it's gone from that bollocks story about saving some woman's purse or whatever before a fight to losing his own purse for the biggest fight of his career.


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    #723
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Diabhal Beag wrote: »
    Jones was initially treated as the ultimate babyface until he kept ****ing up. It's gas to show how badly it's gone from that bollocks story about saving some woman's purse or whatever before a fight to losing his own purse for the biggest fight of his career.

    Not only that, but he's also screwed Cormier over, would imagine he wasn't too happy hearing the fight was off after the months of preparation.


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    #724
    Agent Coulson
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    So will Brock/Hunt now get a nice bump in there pay checks being the solo main event fight.


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    #725
    Mr.Nice Guy
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    A Rogue Hobo wrote: »
    Jon Jones has been stung for doping and the Jones vs Cormier fight is officially cancelled. Lesnar/Hunt is now the main event. While Dana and the rest of the UFC are probably furious (and probably be washing their hands of Jones for good this time) this could not have worked out better for Lesnar, Vince and the WWE.

    It only works out well for WWE depending on how the fight goes.

    The WWE haven't been pushing Lesnar's appearance in recent shows and Dave Meltzer's theory is that WWE got caught out with the opponent being Hunt, as they expected Lesnar would be given someone far handier. He reckons they are not promoting the fight too much as they are seriously worried he will lose.

    The fact the Lesnar fight is now more high profile could be very bad for WWE if Lesnar gets KO'd inside a minute. The whole world will see arguably the top WWE draw, their superhuman monster, get flattened.

    The more I think about this situation the more I think WWE got outfoxed.


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    #726
    grames_bond
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    To be fair they did tweet this fairly epic promo video earlier:

    https://twitter.com/wwe/status/751060733782220800

    And this one:



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    #727
    PTH2009
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    Love if Orton was in the front row of UFC 200 and had a stare down with lesner after his match

    No way of ufc promoting WWE


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    #728
    ERG89
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    grames_bond wrote: »
    To be fair they did tweet this fairly epic promo video

    Stephanie promoted it too in a way.....but she didn't have a clue what she was on about tho. :o


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    #729
    CSF
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    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    It only works out well for WWE depending on how the fight goes.

    The WWE haven't been pushing Lesnar's appearance in recent shows and Dave Meltzer's theory is that WWE got caught out with the opponent being Hunt, as they expected Lesnar would be given someone far handier. He reckons they are not promoting the fight too much as they are seriously worried he will lose.

    The fact the Lesnar fight is now more high profile could be very bad for WWE if Lesnar gets KO'd inside a minute. The whole world will see arguably the top WWE draw, their superhuman monster, get flattened.

    The more I think about this situation the more I think WWE got outfoxed.

    On the flip side, if he wins the headliner of UFC 200, his attention for Summerslam...


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    #730
    ShagNastii
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    I haven't been watching lately. How has the Summerslam fight been set up?

    Was it as simple as "Brock's opponent at Summerslam will be Randy Orton!!". What's the Genesis?


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    #731
    A Rogue Hobo
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    Agent Coulson wrote:
    So will Brock/Hunt now get a nice bump in there pay checks being the solo main event fight.


    Yip, it's what they usually do. Put it like this, when Brock was asked about it he said "Merry Christmas to Brock Lesnar". Plus, I highly doubt Vince/WWE simply agreed to a one off lump sum for this to happen. I imagine they also have a percentage of the buys on top of whatever sum they got.


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    #732
    Chain Smoker
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    Orton's actually a fairly good choice to have at the ready for Summerslam. If Brock loses, it's likely to be a pretty quick knockout, which isn't really that damaging imo (you can chalk it down to arrogance or something, it'd be a lot more embarrassing for him to be by far the weaker person across the full length of two or three rounds imo), having him massacre someone who is still treated quite highly but is really not much of a draw anymore like Orton could work a treat.

    Alternatively, if it seems like Brock has lost a lot of value, Orton winning could boost him up enough to fill a gap near the top more convincingly for a while. With Brock's deal winding up at next year's mania, they mightn't want him any more for the money he costs (and, realistically, he'll be able to demand it regardless of what happens provided Bellator are still around)


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    #733
    ERG89
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    Lesnar is back to the co-main event. Nunes vs Tate is now the main event and Cormier is fighting Anderson Silva now.


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    #734
    slicus ricus
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    ERG89 wrote: »
    Lesnar is back to the co-main event. Nunes vs Tate is now the main event and Cormier is fighting Anderson Silva now.

    Makes sense given that UFC made a point of saying that the Lesnar vs. Hunt fight was a 3 round bout. It would be kind of stupid to have a 3 rounder as main event when the main event on every other card is 5 rounds. Can't imagine either man, particularly Hunt, would fancy stepping it up to a 5 rounder a mere few days before the fight when they've trained for 3 rounds.


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    #735
    gerrybbadd
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    I see wwe.com will be showing Lesnar's weigh in


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    #736
    ShagNastii
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    Say the weigh in earlier Brock looks like a million dollars. Be great if he does the business against Hunt.

    Funny how Brock is now classed as Canadian.


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    #737
    jaykhunter
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    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    I see wwe.com will be showing Lesnar's weigh in

    I watched the UFC weigh in on WWE.com; it was surreal. I know it's a co-branding venture but it made me feel it's like 2001 watching the WWF/WCW Simulcast.


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    #738
    Lithium93_
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    Any idea what time the Lesnar/Hunt fight will start at? Assuming it'll be well into the early hours of Sunday morning.


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    #739
    jaykhunter
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    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Any idea what time the Lesnar/Hunt fight will start at? Assuming it'll be well into the early hours of Sunday morning.

    We're probably talking 5a.m. Recommend staying off the net and watching it when you wake up!


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    #740
    Lithium93_
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    jaykhunter wrote: »
    We're probably talking 5a.m. Recommend staying off the net and watching it when you wake up!

    Cheers dude.


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    #741
    grames_bond
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    It's the co main so it'll be earlier than 5....but still yeah wait till tomorrow!


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    #742
    ERG89
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    jaykhunter wrote: »
    We're probably talking 5a.m. Recommend staying off the net and watching it when you wake up!

    Watch the card tbh. Best show UFC put together in a long time even with Jones getting removed.
    I'd be shocked if Lesnar vs Hunt makes it out of the first round either way it goes.


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    #743
    J. Marston
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    If Lesnar loses, I wonder if WWE will incorporate it into the Orton match. Have Randy take the piss out of him and such.


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    #744
    Depp
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    dana makes a few interesting points about the future relationship between the ufcand the wwe, an exciting prospect if im honest


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    #745
    Mr.Nice Guy
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    I just hope Brock gives a good account of himself in there but I fear Hunt is going to win by a stoppage.


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    #746
    ShagNastii
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    Depp wrote: »


    dana makes a few interesting points about the future relationship between the ufcand the wwe, an exciting prospect if im honest

    Has Dana ever stated what he has planned if/when the UFC sale goes through?


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    #747
    ERG89
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    ShagNastii wrote: »
    Has Dana ever stated what he has planned if/when the UFC sale goes through?

    Still denying it tbh. Funny that they bought the UFC in the same month (March 2001) as WWE purchased & took on huge debt :o
    He didn't really say much about a relationship between the two. Wonder what is the exchange WWE getting a cut of the buys or promotion?
    The Rousey scenario is so up in the air it's hard to know what she is committed to bar movies...


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    #748
    JP Liz V1
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    Back for Summerslam to face Orton, hope both are fully fit for their match
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #749
    JP Liz V1
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    ShagNastii wrote: »
    I haven't been watching lately. How has the Summerslam fight been set up?

    Was it as simple as "Brock's opponent at Summerslam will be Randy Orton!!". What's the Genesis?

    Sorry for bumping the other Lesnar thread, didn't realise Orton's SS match was being discussed here but yes it seems it was just an announcement of the match, the set up and build
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #750
    Tinie
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Back for Summerslam to face Orton, hope both are fully fit for their match

    Reawaken the zombie thread for news everyone knows :confused:


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    #751
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Sorry for bumping the other Lesnar thread, didn't realise Orton's SS match was being discussed here but yes it seems it was just an announcement of the match, the set up and build

    Ah nay worries, appreciate you seeking out the thread before posting a new one. If it's been over a year create a new one :) but sure all the Orton chatter is in here so I've moved those posts :)


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