If you went home do you reckon you would be right?

Zambia

A thought came to me

If I did decide to go home would I get a job taking into account the horror stories my family tells me. A quick look on Jobs.ie shows a lot of good fits for the sort of stuff I did when I left. So if I was still in that line of work I reckon I would get something. Maybe not as great pay as I did when I left but something.

Anyway here is my question if you left Aus today do you reckon you would pick up a job on your return and how long would it take you?

Rest assured I am not going anywhere...

jackbhoy

Yeah, I reckon I could pick up a contract in the morning if I went back. Myself and gf returned home to Ireland for a year in late 2009 and were both working pretty much straight away and both gave up jobs to come back to Oz again.

Since I left again last year I have been contacted several times by recruiters and companies through Linkedin and old colleagues offering contract work. I work as an IT Contractor/Consultant so there's actually tonnes of work in Dublin, companies are hiring short term contractors on daily rate rather than hiring perm employees these days. Actually, it would be easier for me to get good contracts in Dublin now than in Melbourne, as a lot of big banks here are slashing costs and have hiring freezes. Funny old world eh

The Aussie

Well to be honest, when the wife wanted to move back here to Cork in 2008 to be close to a sick parent I was bricking it as to how either of us would find work but the pair of us were working within weeks and have been ever since.

I'm running work for a small enough builder here and have only had about 5 weeks off due to no work or between jobs in that time with my wages (according to my P60's) at 2004 levels and my second job at 2006 levels.He was not even that keen on me heading back to Brisbane for 10 days in mid January.

If your keen enough you will find something even if it's a job that you would not have looked at 5 years ago for money that's nearing on being insulting.

CiaranC

I went home in late 2010, secured a permanent IT job, reasonably well paid, though not as well paid as previous similar positions Ive had in Ireland, within three days. I dont imagine it would be any different now. In fact it would probably be easier now as Ive more experience as a contractor.

Dont believe the hype.

myflipflops

Pretty certain I would get work. Probably be able to get my old job back.

Intend to test that confidence in a year or 2.

woolymammoth

hard to know really.. I went back in early 2010 and had a permanent (IT) job within a few weeks. Having said that, there was an element of right place, right time, but even then the boss said he had trouble finding someone to fill the role. I think if i had to go back tomorrow, I could find something again within a month or two at most. Less if i wasn't fussy about the work or contract positions, less again if i could be fecked with databases or developement! :pac:

Batgurl

I know I wouldn't.

Every vacancy that comes along in my line of work in Ireland has been transformed into one of them WPP or internship things.

I still regularly keep in contact with people who work in the industry and they say that wages have been slashed and slashed again. I know of individuals who are being squeezed out through very un-nice means as they don't want to pay redundancy. As soon as the hint of a vacancy comes up, CV's get sent through but the job has already been given to someone on the inside.

That being said, its hard enough over here to get into my line of work so it is what it is...

I'm currently working in quite a niche area but the problem is this area doesn't actual exist in Ireland at the moment so my experience here will count as nothing back home. I've been offered sponsorship so hopefully it wont come to that but if it does, it'll be London for me as I'd be at nothing in Ireland.

Xavi6

With the broad experience I have gained here then probably.

Whether the wages would be enough to match my current carefree lifestyle is another matter entirely.

chrismon

I came home in September and have gotten 1 days work so far. Sick of applying for jobs. Wish I stayed where I was.
I'm a Sparky by the way.

Father Damo

I reckon my old job would take me back if there was an opening.

However I would rather drink acid than work for my old firm so its a moot point. I earn about as much knocking down walls and dumping rubble in the skip here than my old department manager would make in a week (fair enough the exchange rate is alot different to when I left but even still, it gives me a silent smug satisfaction :pac: If it wasnt for the availability of 24 hour drinking at the weekend I would be absoloutely minted, but sure you are only young once)

6ix

In Ireland, I probably wouldn't be in a good position to get a job but I'd probably be ok if I went to the UK and I could settle for being a short plane ride away. There are loads of opportunities for me here in Oz though so I'm happy for now.

My girlfriend on the other hand would have better prospects at home than she does here. She works in finance and things aren't great here at the moment, in Sydney at least.

catbear

My job in Ireland is there if the company is still there but the atmosphere was depressing. I don't need a job in australia to be great, i just need it to be good because being able to go to the beach or just to be outdoors in a sunny climate makes up for a lot. Seriously folks, ireland's in a bad mood right now, leave going back a few years if you can hold out here.

zweton

Would you notice the difference out there between the two catbear?

catbear

Outwhere exactly, do you mean from Ireland to Australia?

The Aussie

Father Damo wrote: »

However I would rather drink acid than work for my old firm.

I agree, Cask Wine is the last resort at 5 in the morning:D

lima

I was struggling to get work in Melbourne (was there for 6 months on a WHV) but luckily I got headhunted by a company back in Dublin, started a few weeks ago and now I'm as happy as ever

aido79

lima wrote: »

I was struggling to get work in Melbourne (was there for 6 months on a WHV) but luckily I got headhunted by a company back in Dublin, started a few weeks ago and now I'm as happy as ever

Let me guess...you work in IT?. Most of the people saying that they would get work at home seem to work in IT. I'm an electrician and have more or less accepted the fact that I'll never live in Ireland again even if I wanted to. Anyone in the construction industry would really struggle to make a go of it in Ireland for the next few years at least.

Mellor

In architecture, I doubt it.

I'd prob have to go self employed.

Zambia

aido79 wrote: »

Let me guess...you work in IT?. Most of the people saying that they would get work at home seem to work in IT. I'm an electrician and have more or less accepted the fact that I'll never live in Ireland again even if I wanted to. Anyone in the construction industry would really struggle to make a go of it in Ireland for the next few years at least.

I would agree Aido IT and the specialist skills to be found in it are very handy to have.

Plus it is so not for everyone I found my years in IT very frustrating at times.

bladebrew

aido79 wrote: »

Let me guess...you work in IT?. Most of the people saying that they would get work at home seem to work in IT. I'm an electrician and have more or less accepted the fact that I'll never live in Ireland again even if I wanted to. Anyone in the construction industry would really struggle to make a go of it in Ireland for the next few years at least.

i was thinking the exact same thing, michael noonan got slated the other day for saying on the news a lot of emigration is a lifestyle choice, he appears to be completly right,
the only jobs i hear anyone getting in ireland is in IT,
im suprised so many people left jobs to go to oz and could get jobs if they returned,

Zambia

I would not go that far because for many young people in their early 20's who wants to sit around looking for the odd bit of work trying to build a skill set.

I reckon a lot of the posters here accumulated a lot of experience in the good times well I did anyway. Without the opportunity to acquire that experience you really are looking towards the airport.

woolymammoth

bladebrew wrote: »

i was thinking the exact same thing, michael noonan got slated the other day for saying on the news a lot of emigration is a lifestyle choice, he appears to be completly right,
the only jobs i hear anyone getting in ireland is in IT,
im suprised so many people left jobs to go to oz and could get jobs if they returned,

I sympathise for old noonan, a little. To a degree, many people to leave the country because they can, and not because they have to. I'm an example emigration for lifestyle myself. But I have family who have emigrated because they have no other choice, so i see both sides of the argument. Noonan should have chosen his words better, but that doesn't make him wrong, and people are only giving him sh!t because they need someone to lash out against.

The government has been crying about the lack of IT workers, about the need for people to take up IT, for over a decade. Hell, the courses i took to get into IT were designed around getting more people into IT at a time when everyone wanted to be a sparky or carpenter. Lots of my school chums went into the trades because you got paid to learn, because the money was good, they didn't need to bury their face in books every night. And I cannot fault them, because those prospects looked good at the time. Still.. There's a point I'm trying to make, but I won't because i cannot articulate it without offending half the country.

LETS BE AVN IT

I returned last month ;( . Not a chance of an interview never mind a job here . Stay where you are ,but its great to be able to go on a night out and not be worried you wont get in because you have had more than 2 drinks

Zambia

In Waterford and what are you applying for?

karl bracken

I think with IT at home you still need experience, i went back to college as a mature student and got my degree and had 6 months IT work experience and 5 years sales and made it to the last 2 in a few interviews but got the same thing in them all, the other guy just has a little bit more experience...

Me and the GF came over here and found it very hard i applied for about 200 jobs and got 2 interviews (and these were all very junior roles) eventually i got something and got sponsored but i think i was lucky, was down to the last $500!

I would like to go home in a few years and think were in a good position to buy a house at home as the dollar gets stronger and house prices drop and with a few years experience over here finding IT work at home wont be that hard, i hope lol

Super is a good way to get a deposit for a house when you get back after the 35% tax from it.

mandrake04

woolymammoth wrote: »

I sympathise for old noonan, a little. To a degree, many people to leave the country because they can, and not because they have to. I'm an example emigration for lifestyle myself. But I have family who have emigrated because they have no other choice, so i see both sides of the argument. Noonan should have chosen his words better, but that doesn't make him wrong, and people are only giving him sh!t because they need someone to lash out against.

The government has been crying about the lack of IT workers, about the need for people to take up IT, for over a decade. Hell, the courses i took to get into IT were designed around getting more people into IT at a time when everyone wanted to be a sparky or carpenter. Lots of my school chums went into the trades because you got paid to learn, because the money was good, they didn't need to bury their face in books every night. And I cannot fault them, because those prospects looked good at the time. Still.. There's a point I'm trying to make, but I won't because i cannot articulate it without offending half the country.

In fairness to Noonan its not his fault that the Irish media have hyped up the whole emigration thing, like its as if the word Holiday has been erased from the Irish dictionary and replaced by emigration.

Zambia

Yes it is curious where are the migration figures coming from is it exits from Dublin Airport. When I left I don't recall letting any Government body know I was leaving.

Like this summer will several thousand Irish emigrate to Ibiza

karl bracken

Zambia wrote: »

Like this summer will several thousand Irish emigrate to Ibiza

Is there IT jobs there lol

mandrake04

Zambia wrote: »

Yes it is curious where are the migration figures coming from is it exits from Dublin Airport. When I left I don't recall letting any Government body know I was leaving.

Like this summer will several thousand Irish emigrate to Ibiza

Yeah they will emigrating for 2 weeks in July, my parents emigrated here for a month last June. I emigrated to the US for 2 weeks earlier this month.

jank

From what I hear back home, I would get a job easily enough if I were to move back there. Yes I work in IT

Those years studying and working part time stacking shelfs paid off. Any fool back in the good times could earn a mint as a tradie. Fair enough if you like the trade but I know many that just did it to earn money and are now crying foul.

The Aussie

aido79 wrote: »

Anyone in the construction industry would really struggle to make a go of it in Ireland for the next few years at least.

Im not sure its as bad as that, in Cork last year i know a good few blokes across all trades who got a full years work and others who were working between 8 and 10 months of the year then spent the other time claiming and doing Foxers, i worked the full 12 months without a holiday.