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Is there such thing as a just war?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Nodin wrote: »
    Apart from arriving with a mobile bridge, you couldn't really be less subtle.
    Pissmire wrote: »
    Oops. You forgot to mention the bravery of noble British troops on Bloody Sunday.

    You both fell for it, and with almost 15k post too Nodin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭hatz7


    Just.....in Case?
    That's a fair enough reason.

    What if something worse were to happen if you didn't go to war?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Well the legality of war means feck all as legality is an artificial concept as opposed to the value of the lives taken during war which is very real. As far as the morality maybe the american civil war which was in part over slavery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Daniel S wrote: »
    From the British? :pac:
    To defend Ulster. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    Americas war on Iraq

    a just in case war


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    If it is defending the land, then yes. Depends what side you are on too.

    Regardless of how that land was acquired?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Regardless of how that land was acquired?
    Don't see why that would matter. I think the majority are entitled to stand up to a minority trying to take a country off them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Pissmire


    Never met the man, but I will agree with him that the students don't really enter into the equation. A coup d'etat which murders the prime minister, a request of the local multinational organization (organization of Eastern Caribbean States) which has limited military force of its own (but they sent a few along symbolically) and the request of the representative of the head of state who then appointed a caretaker government pending elections soon afterwards should, I submit, give the operation some legitimacy. The US may have chosen to get into Grenada as opposed to, oh Angola, for the purposes of making the point that the caribbean was its back yard, but that doesn't invalidate the act itself.

    NTM

    I remember Angola. Don't think either superpower covered themselves in glory there. But don't think either side lost any military personnel there? Maybe a few 'advisers'. Anyway, I'm not debating this any more, these things turn into mini wars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Don't see why that would matter. I think the majority are entitled to stand up to a minority trying to take a country off them.

    In that case whats your view of the planatation of Ulster then?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Anyway, I'm not debating this any more, these things turn into mini wars

    But are the miniwars just?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Pissmire


    But are the miniwars just?

    Just time consuming. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    I had a miniwar this morning but it was only because i had pizza last night and I'm fine now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 963 ✭✭✭NinjaK


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    If it is defending the land, then yes. Depends what side you are on too.


    Like the brave Irish who faught against the invading Brits hundreds of years ago..


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