the history of silage machines?

Man of Aran

sidewaysdrivin wrote: »

Kicking off at 12

with Damp conditions, just be patient with us & everything will be sound

Try post some video clips on Youtube after .... will hardly make it back this time. Its a long way from Kunming back to Kilronan

gally74

What time wil the single chops be I. Action?

digger58

Best of luck with everything tomorrow, hope the weather holds. I haven't seen rain since Austria 3 weeks ago!!!! Not a blade of grass to go up a chute around here but a few nice old tractors around including a very clean Nuffield 4/65 in daily use, lots of 100 series MF as well.

blue5000

Well hope you had a good day, think the rain might have held off.

moy83

I was down earlier in the day and it was dry that time but they hadnt started cutting when i left
There was a great array of harvesters and trailers to be seen , fair play to the organisers everything was running well and it looked well laid out .
Does anyone know if the two TW 15's with matching harvesters were owned by the same fella ? They my favourite outfit of the day

Man of Aran

sidewaysdrivin wrote: »

Kicking off at 12

with Damp conditions, just be patient with us & everything will be sound

Did the IFJ give ya a mention at all?
Usually they publish a diary of events nationwide but I had not noticed your event.


Anyhow hope it was a great day for all. Put some good clips up on Youtube.

red menace

Only video clip I've seen so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi3x9M6EQlw

sidewaysdrivin

3 miles nearly exactly of a tailback at one stage, Guards were going mental, we werent expecting the overwhelming amount of spectators that came in, we did promise organised mayhem & delivered on that

only accident that happened was an aviation incident with a paraglider flying in & hit high voltage electricity wires




right, only the beginning of the Tractor Porn thats about to land on this thread


Silorator being driven by a Porsche Master sidefilling the other Porsche




^^^Myself on the right & Sean Roche on the left^^^

Wicked yolk to cut & talk about a blow it puts even damp grass half a mile if the chute isnt turned down. First swarth is difficult going (a man that worked them before in the 50's told us that & was 110% correct) but once a bit was opened up we hadnt a problem

The evening before when we were just going hooking up to test it out we landed down to the shed with the porsche a few hours after we put the spout on & the tyre completely burst out much ado on a saturday night trying to get a tyre for it, couldnt get anyone, threw it on my tyre changer & got the tyre off, went hopping back onto the tractor to get back up to the site & get the car didnt we spot my twin cylinder ursus with the exact tyre on it..... Talk about relief


Anyways, Green Crop loader siezed up unfortunately but we brought it up on site anyways...

we got the deutz 8005's sidefilling off a mengele SF300


first self propelled in Ireland





kidd rotoflail

sidewaysdrivin

one of the two lads who drove their tractors trailers & harvesters the full way from bandbridge...Left at half 6 friday morning & two punctures later they arrived at 1pm on saturday. Unfortunately one of their engines began to sieze up with the pressure of the harvester on it in the first few minutes


John from Grassmen having a great time of it with the wife tearing around in the Jeep & the baby one side of them delighted with the excitement & noise



after the grass was cut by the single chops



bit underpowered at 250 HorsePower maybe?


Moving floor oldschool trailers


when I get more ill post them up

heres one vid of a Massey Ferguson 135 4WD showing a ford how its done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8oR8qywUHo

sidewaysdrivin

A bit of all the different machines working at the show except the green crop loader, It'll be working nextyear tho, hopefully with one or two other suprises

DunmoreVintage Silage Day

The CutLift made it also also thanks to JimF


and the single chops at work

digger58

Found my brochures, I was watching a youtube video and found what I believe to be a Taarup in line trailed harvester very like our one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh4arc76gHM&feature=player_detailpage
at 6.20 the 5000 is pulling what I believe is a B1100, this is in the 1960 Taarup brochure but not in the 1961 one. The difference between the B1100 and our one was the chute, ours was not rounded at the top and there was no means of swivelling the chute, it was static, just the flap was adjustable. It was more like the Kidd in the video. There is no mention anywhere of side mounted harvesters. plenty of trailed ones, S 1500 and S1100 in the 1962 line up.

digger58

More scans

digger58

I just looked at that pic again of the green Taarup "side mounted" it looks suspiciously like the original JF way of mounting their side mounted, I never saw that on any Taarup, I wonder is there a chance that is a S1100 trailed converted with JF gear? I have looked through all my stuff and that doesn't appear anywhere or even anything like it, thats 1960 and 1961 brochures. Would like to see some close ups of the drives etc. Did it get to the show?

digger58

No more comments, what's happened?

freedominacup

sidewaysdrivin wrote: »

first self propelled in Ireland

I think the self propelled claim could be disputed. AFAIK Dania forage harvesters came in the same year as the 1880. 1972 if I'm correct. My info is that either 6 or 7 danias were brought in that year. 2 went to one customer in N. Dublin, 2 went to one customer in E.Cork one to Wexford and one to my oulboy and his brothers in Waterford. They were something like this one but with a direct cut.

http://www.farmphoto.com/ShowImage.aspx?mid=43850

Oul fella said they were a poor second to the New Holland. One of their mates had the New Holland and his output was close to double theirs. They converted the Dania to a pick up after one season and got some increase in output but bought an NH1895 as soon as they were available.

digger58

I agree with you, I would have thought the Dania was in before the NH1880, There was a 1770 before that I remember one that fairly new in about 1977 cutting around Cecilstown, Mallow, I thought the 1880 came in after that. I saw a Dania in about 1975 in Fermoy. Any update on the Taarup question? I did find a poster from 1965/6 with a side mounted Taarup flail mower with the same arrangement as that green sidemounted harvester, I think that green Taarup has been doctored especially as my brochures for 1960/61 has no mention of a sidemounted only trailed.

freedominacup

digger58 wrote: »

I agree with you, I would have thought the Dania was in before the NH1880

My oulboy didn't think the Dania was much before the NH if at all. They were kicking themselves very quickly that they hadn't bought the NH. I wouldn't mind but they were running 3/4 claysons or clayson NH combines at the time so were well used to Mahon and Mcphilips and NH.

He still has nightmares about edging knives for the Dania. They had a couple of sets and it took him a few hours per day between milkings to keep them right.

sidewaysdrivin

digger58 wrote: »

I just looked at that pic again of the green Taarup "side mounted" it looks suspiciously like the original JF way of mounting their side mounted, I never saw that on any Taarup, I wonder is there a chance that is a S1100 trailed converted with JF gear? I have looked through all my stuff and that doesn't appear anywhere or even anything like it, thats 1960 and 1961 brochures. Would like to see some close ups of the drives etc. Did it get to the show?

sorry about the slow reply

The green taarup was verified by Kverneland as genuine and definitely the first of them, untampered with, factory setup for sidemounting

digger58

I wonder then why it's not in the 60 or 61 brochure? only trailed, did it make it to the show? I have, since my last post seen a picture of a Taarup side mounted flail mower with the same type of set up but that mower is from 1965. I still doubt that it's original. I would love to see it "In the flesh"

Lookwhatifound

I have a single cut silage harvester orange in colour which seems to have hardly been used, the paint is still on the gears. It is a trailer harvester and I don't think it is the same as any of the harvesters in the previous pics or videos. Does anybody know how I might identify maker etc (can't load pics yet sorry).
It is one of many vintage machines I need to clear any help appreciated.

digger58

Maybe UG They were orange , I remember a neighbour having a UG trailed in the mid 70's with a "fish tail" hitch like the Kidd. I drew 10x6 trailers from it with a 135, good machine driven by a 168, 165 on the pit with a push off rake.

digger58

UG.jpg
Pic of a side mounted UG

Lookwhatifound

Hopefully I've got the picture of the orange coloured harvester onto this post.

Lookwhatifound

I do intend to get it out of the bushes when the bird that has her chicks hatched in my tractor reared.

Lookwhatifound

Sorry about the broken line of messaging, I'm a slow learner with technology.
Here's another pic of harvester.

digger58

That looks like a skeleton of an Allis Chalmers round baler not a silage harvester,

Lookwhatifound

Yes, both your pic and my own do look essentially the same but there is a chute lieing on top of the deck which seems to belong to the machine on my first picture. I'll see if I can find a pic with a better view of it.
Thanks for the reply digger58 .

Lookwhatifound

There does not seem to be anywhere for the belts for the round bales either, instead there seems to be an extra round topped frame

Lookwhatifound

Hello digger58. Thanks for the info, I used you allis chalmers suggestion and found a 30 second clip on YouTube of an allis chalmers forage harvester running. It's like mine other than my one has a finger bar mower at the head of the machine where as the one in the clip is picking up mown straw. I also found a couple of clips of allis chalmers round balers running, they looked very good.

digger58

The second pic you posted has more tinwork behind it, I wonder was it an Allis Chalmers trailed combine?, the last pic looks like beater bars from a drum?