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    #32
    caesarthechimp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭caesarthechimp


    An update on this; they are changing the law after Christmas, such that it will be illegal to even advertise a property without the BER from 9th January.
    The reason for this; estate agents were claiming that in strict legal terms, a property is only "offered" during the actual signing of the contract/lease, and what they do is only "advertising."
    Hence the difficulty in securing any convictions for the offence of failing to disclose the BER when a property is offered for sale or rent, up to now.


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    #33
    BostonB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Where did you hear that?


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    #34
    caesarthechimp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭caesarthechimp


    BostonB wrote: »
    Where did you hear that?
    Here

    Scroll down to Sections 12 and 13 (there is other stuff there about mandatory solar panels or renewable energy for new build houses)

    The "issuing authority" mentioned is SEAI and the "energy performance indicator" that will have to be declared in any advertisement is the BER number eg D2 or C1 etc.

    Section 13 allows for spot checks to be carried out such that the owner or their agent must be able to produce a printed copy of the full certificate "there and then".


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    #35
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,022 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Load of nonsense at this stage. BER ratings are NOT measurements of the energy performance. They are just estimates based on construction type etc.

    You could have a BER C1 rating that costs more to heat than a comparable D1 rating (draughty, but well insulated C1 house will leak more energy than an airtight D1 house!)


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    #36
    caesarthechimp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭caesarthechimp


    I believe the amount of windows and doors that are draughtproofed, and the number and size of wall vents and chimneys are some of the many actual measurements taken in a BER survey.


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    #37
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,022 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    caesarthechimp wrote: »
    I believe the amount of windows and doors that are draughtproofed, and the number and size of wall vents and chimneys are some of the many actual measurements taken in a BER survey.
    Yeah, but draughtproofing must be working, and you can't test it without a blower test.


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    #38
    EricPraline
    Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭EricPraline


    beertons wrote: »
    Was talking to a building surveyor and solicitor last week, they said that the BER is not worth the paper it's written on. Ask the landlord to insulate the roof/ceiling. If he does, happy days. If he doesn't, tell him you want your deposit back and move out asap.
    To be fair, a BER cert is probably an inconvenience to both professions (surveyor operates in a similar area; conveyancing solicitors now have to wait for a BER before completion of a purchase). The BER cert is useful IF it comes with recommendations on how to improve it - unfortunately not all assessors will provide that information.


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    #39
    b4nd1t
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭b4nd1t


    The BER rating is totally meaningless AFAIK.

    It is not accurate or specific and totally misleading.

    One can not even take the advice seriously when you read things such as this:

    "Lighting - Low energy bulbs - Cost - Low - Impact - Medium"

    Now the main items in a home that use lots of energy are heating, water heating by a long mile and then some electrical appliances such as a kettle, washing machine, dishwasher etc.. you would be lucky to pay €5 in a month if you left all the lights on in your house!


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