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IE's 071 Class.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭metrovick001




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    GMKK96 wrote: »
    074 on a steel train also hauling a timber wagon to Waterford, 086 Light engine, 088 hauling a DFDS liner, 077 hauling a timber train and some Cork, Galway, Westport, Portlaoise and Heuston passenger services in Kildare on Friday.


    Loadings on the DFDS not looking too healthy!

    GM228


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭jhnn


    GM228 wrote: »
    Loadings on the DFDS not looking too healthy!

    GM228
    That docent look healthy maybe its the time of year, wheres all the export boom that the government is talking about...J.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭eejoynt


    jhnn wrote: »
    That docent look healthy maybe its the time of year, wheres all the export boom that the government is talking about...J.



    The rail train doesn't Cary containers


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭metrovick001


    The DFDS liner is in the video at Kildare running around. The thumbnal is the rail train.

    The DFDS can be fully loaded on certain Fridays.

    eejoynt wrote: »
    The rail train doesn't Cary containers


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  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    There's only one liner each way now. It started hauling curtain sided DFDS containers a good while back and since then traffic appeared to pick up a bit. I'll see can I get a shot of one around Lavistown tomorrow afternoon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 John Denver


    088 was on the DFDS liner today and 10 out of 12 CPW's were loaded with 45ft containers. Not a bad loading.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭jhnn


    088 was on the DFDS liner today and 10 out of 12 CPW's were loaded with 45ft containers. Not a bad loading.

    Thats good news, thanks for sharing.....J


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    The DFDS liner was cancelled yesterday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    Another Kildare video taken Friday featuring the Portlaoise to Waterford steel train, 077 on the North Wall to Ballina IWT, 218 in the distance on the up IWT (which I failed to record when it was passing), 072 on the Ballina to Waterford laden timber train and some MK4 trains hauled by 215, 217, 219 and 222.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,772 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    074 with steel train in Waterford.


  • Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭davidlacey


    Unidentified 071 passed Bray at 22.05 with autoballasters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    074 with steel train in Waterford.

    It was on the taras Monday evening, held at East Wall junction with 9 empties at 17:00, it passed Killester around 17:50 taking a path between DARTs in the evening rush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,772 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    086 with auto blasters at Carlow sidings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭tnegun


    There was an 071 shutdown at the engine shed in Connally last night didn't see the no. Have they all been overhauled now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    tnegun wrote: »
    There was an 071 shutdown at the engine shed in Connally last night didn't see the no. Have they all been overhauled now?

    That's 077, it's been there since Monday morning with its access panels opened all week. Could be just extra because if it's failed that long it would have been hauled to Inchicore.

    Overhauled list is:
    071, 076 (finished since July and not back in traffic yet), 077, 078, 084, 085, 087 (more or less finished, still waiting for parts, out of traffic almost 5 years now) and 088.

    So just less than half the fleet done at his stage. 072 and 081's cabs are rusting badly and need to get overhauled badly. 081 was the first 071 in the freight livery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭metrovick001


    077 failed.
    I believe its due to be hauled to Inchicore today.

    That's 077, it's been there since Monday morning with its access panels opened all week. Could be just extra because if it's failed that long it would have been hauled to Inchicore.

    Overhauled list is:
    071, 076 (finished since July and not back in traffic yet), 077, 078, 084, 085, 087 (more or less finished, still waiting for parts, out of traffic almost 5 years now) and 088.

    So just less than half the fleet done at his stage. 072 and 081's cabs are rusting badly and need to get overhauled badly. 081 was the first 071 in the freight livery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭metrovick001


    Friday 27-Feb-15

    075 WD-BA DFDS as far as Kildare
    074 WD-BA DFDS Kildare-Ballina.
    088 HOBs being loaded at Portarlington
    084 Portlaoise-Platin PWD (sleepers)
    086 Portlaoise-?? PWD (Panel train).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    looking at some 071s recently, they look very shook. whats happens when IR runs out of bits to cannibalise or the frames just begin too generally fail. Cant see them getting monies for locos and the 201s are very limited in scope of use. Seems a bizarre strategy

    Are there any other countries that have ended up with a basically passenger only full railcar operation. How do they cope with no loco stock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,234 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    BoatMad wrote: »
    looking at some 071s recently, they look very shook. whats happens when IR runs out of bits to cannibalise or the frames just begin too generally fail. Cant see them getting monies for locos and the 201s are very limited in scope of use. Seems a bizarre strategy

    Are there any other countries that have ended up with a basically passenger only full railcar operation. How do they cope with no loco stock


    i don't know is there any country which is completely railcar operated, or at least that can't get locos and stock if needed.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭eejoynt


    BoatMad wrote: »
    looking at some 071s recently, they look very shook. whats happens when IR runs out of bits to cannibalise or the frames just begin too generally fail. Cant see them getting monies for locos and the 201s are very limited in scope of use. Seems a bizarre strategy

    Are there any other countries that have ended up with a basically passenger only full railcar operation. How do they cope with no loco stock

    In fact 071s have returned to traffic after overhaul over the last few years. One of them, forget which , was subject to a discussion on this thread, as to how it was destined to be turned into razor blades.
    But then the main function of this forum is the pooling of ignorance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    087 was the loco, and for a few years yes it did indeed look destined to be the first to be scrapped. IE's plans regarding the 071s has changed for the better in recent years. Around 2007-2008 it was decided to withdraw 6 of the class when they were due major overhaul and use them for parts for the other 12.

    The new overhaul program now for the 071s is to keep all 18 running for as long as possible. The cabs are being fully rebuilt along with all the body work panels being replaced because of the decades of weathering have take it's toll on them. The drivers are reported to be happy with the improvements in the slate grey 071s. There are no more drafts and rain leaking in, less vibrations and improved sound proofing so hearing protection is no longer needed all the time. Just a far better condition to work in and less fatigue for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,234 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    087 was the loco, and for a few years yes it did indeed look destined to be the first to be scrapped. IE's plans regarding the 071s has changed for the better in recent years. Around 2007-2008 it was decided to withdraw 6 of the class when they were due major overhaul and use them for parts for the other 12.

    The new overhaul program now for the 071s is to keep all 18 running for as long as possible. The cabs are being fully rebuilt along with all the body work panels being replaced because of the decades of weathering have take it's toll on them. The drivers are reported to be happy with the improvements in the slate grey 071s. There are no more drafts and rain leaking in, less vibrations and improved sound proofing so hearing protection is no longer needed all the time. Just a far better condition to work in and less fatigue for them.
    well, they had no choice. the 201s can't go all over the network and frankly they need locos to grow some sort of freight custom rather then the bad strategy of only relying completely on the passenger side of things

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    well, they had no choice. the 201s can't go all over the network and frankly they need locos to grow some sort of freight custom rather then the bad strategy of only relying completely on the passenger side of things


    Yes but I wonder then why they scrapped all the 141s etc. If they think they can keep the 071 going for a reasonable time, ( i.e. > say 5 years) I wonder why they didn't restore a selection of 141s. Seems a but bizarre to have all > 2000Hp engines .

    anyways glad to see the venerable 071s in action , I remember their arrival in the late seventies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,234 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    BoatMad wrote: »
    I wonder why they didn't restore a selection of 141s.

    because the strategy was to get out of freight altogether. can't have an alternative to the road hauliers now can we? i'm sure a few could have been kept with others stripped for parts. lots of gm locos built long before them still earning their keep so i can't see why the best few couldn't be doing the same on per way at least. all though thankfully a couple earn their keep in preservation. the fact is IE can't simply rely on the passenger side alone. they have to grow the freight business. it will be small compared to what it once was, but it can be, and it needs to be done. they need whatever income they can get

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    because the strategy was to get out of freight altogether. can't have an alternative to the road hauliers now can we? i'm sure a few could have been kept with others stripped for parts. lots of gm locos built long before them still earning their keep so i can't see why the best few couldn't be doing the same on per way at least. all though thankfully a couple earn their keep in preservation. the fact is IE can't simply rely on the passenger side alone. they have to grow the freight business. it will be small compared to what it once was, but it can be, and it needs to be done. they need whatever income they can get

    I agree, what I see is a dead end situation where IR will not be able to fund replacement locos on a freight only scenario and effectively they will remove themselves from ever being able to generate freight again.

    I always thought the 100% railcar strategy was incredibly shortsighted and that a mix of services would ensure that justification to replace the loco fleet could be retained.

    The strategic rail review 2013, shows that less then 400 freight wagons are in serviceable condition down from 1500, and that in effect even if it wanted to IR couldn't re-establish any significant freight operation without massive capital injection

    anyway back to the 071s, long may they thunder around our railways


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Spotted 075 with the RPSI Cravens set in the Connolly Vallet plant at 7am this morning. Didn't hear of any specials being run lately.

    072 was on the evening empty tara run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭flyingsnail


    Spotted 075 with the RPSI Cravens set in the Connolly Vallet plant at 7am this morning. Didn't hear of any specials being run lately.

    072 was on the evening empty tara run.

    There was a private charter for Fingal Library as part of their programme of 'Once Upon A Place' events today from Connolly to Drogheda using 461 and RPSI Cravens


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    Irish Rail top and tail 071s 086 and 088 on a ballast train 7-3-2015



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,745 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Has 082 been wearing an orange door for a while now? Just passed me on a Tara run


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    L1011 wrote: »
    Has 082 been wearing an orange door for a while now? Just passed me on a Tara run

    Did it get stuck somewhere because it only passed Killester at 17:44. Didn't see an orange door from where I was anyway. It must be a recent enough edition.


  • Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭martin_g


    072 and 077 on Tara's at the min, 072 has a orange door


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    martin_g wrote: »
    072 has a orange door


    072 has had at least one for a good few years. It also has one body panel section in orange and black. 086 has 2 orange doors for a few years also.

    These last stubborn bits of orange will be gone when all the 071s are slated. It's been 2 years since the first has been completed. They are taking their time with them even though some are in bad need of some external work at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,745 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    It may have been 072 I saw yesterday actually. Head's a bit wrecked with a flu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    L1011 wrote: »
    Has 082 been wearing an orange door for a while now? Just passed me on a Tara run

    I believe any of the orange/black doors seen on the 071s are ex 141/181 doors.

    GM228


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,523 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster



    These last stubborn bits of orange will be gone when all the 071s are slated. It's been 2 years since the first has been completed.

    :eek:
    hard to believe it's been that long already!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    :eek:
    hard to believe it's been that long already!

    I know, where did the time go. 077 was released back into traffic in slate grey around the 9th or 10th of April 2013 on a wagon transfer to Northwall and went on to do a couple of weeks on taras. I think the new livery has weathered well so far. The silver cabs of the freight livery are just too hard to keep clean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    There was a freight livery 071 on engineering works around 1:15am Sunday morning on the northern DART line. Watched the loco propel it's train of empty flat panel and spoil wagons, wrong road between Killester and Harmonstown on the up line. This was due to at least 3 rail mounted JCBs working on the down line that followed up beside the train about 15mins later.


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Thedarkb


    Number 071 lifted the cravens from the marble city railtour today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Spotted 085 on the evening tara at Eastwall junction. It's the first time I've noted it on a tara since it's overhaul and the second time on a revenue freight service. It appeared to be a per way only loco for a good while now.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭jhnn


    Spotted 085 on the evening tara at Eastwall junction. It's the first time I've noted it on a tara since it's overhaul and the second time on a revenue freight service. It appeared to be a per way only loco for a good while now.

    I took a photo of it near Gormanston Tue24th with the afternoon laden tara.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭jhnn




  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭metrovick001


    Friday 27-Mar-15.

    072 worked Portlaoise-Waterford empty steel train. Passed Kildangan at 1320.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    News on the grape vine is that 080 has had it's cab and body overhaul and is due to enter the paint shop shortly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 bob425
    Miss


    Welcome back 087 - it has been six years since we last met !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    bob425 wrote: »
    Welcome back 087 - it has been six years since we last met !

    Yeah, almost 4 years out of service and almost scrapped at one point. Good to see her back. It looked like she was ready to come back a year ago, don't know what took so long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭kc56


    071 stabled in the Kildare maintenance yard this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    074 and 075 are the tara locos this week. Good to see 075 on this side of the network for change.


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭metrovick001



    082 & MK3s on a Claremorris-Waterford Knock special south of Portarlington on Sunday, 03-May-09.
    This was the last time an 071 worked a knock special & the penultimate time MK3s were used on a knock special!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Engineering works have begun on the northern commuter line. Just sighted an 071 pushing gantry crane 778 wrong road between Killester and Harmonstown. I think track sections are being relayed between Killbarack and Raheny as I saw single rails clamped together for the gentry cranes placed there during the week.


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