A bunch of tits on Facebook

Jesus Wept

wrote:

Facebook has a long and tortured relationship with breasts.
Now women around the world have decided to tell the site to grow up. They are staging protests in order to get Facebook to change its policies against breast-feeding pictures.

It was in 2008 that Facebook first seems to have gone around removing breast-feeding pictures from the site.
At the time, Facebook claimed it couldn't allow pictures of breasts on a site where teenagers roam. Its stance has become more nuanced over the years.
These days, its rules state that breast-feeding pictures are OK, as long as they don't feature "an exposed breast where the child is not actively engaged in nursing."

However, the San Francisco Chronicle reports that some of the world's mothers believe their pictures have been flagged as inappropriate and their accounts shut down a little too often.

So they have organized "nurse-ins" around the world. And they're using Facebook to coordinate their activities.

The idea behind the nurse-ins is to have as many mothers as possible go to their nearest Facebook office and breast-feed outside it.

The Facebook page announces, for example, that Facebook's Madison Avenue, New York, office will be garlanded by a protest on Monday. It also offers that Singapore will host one of these nurse-ins outside Facebook's HQ there on Tuesday at 10 a.m. I wonder how the local authorities might enjoy that.

The main focus of the protests is the Facebook page of breast-feeding activist Emma Kwasnica of Vancouver. She says her account has been shut down four times and that 30 of her pictures have been flagged as inappropriate. The problem with that, of course, is that anyone can flag any of your public pictures as inappropriate.

Kwasnica told the Chronicle: "This is discrimination. There's no other way to look at it. We're being treated as pornographers. Breast-feeding moms, especially ones with infants, spend hours a day with their children at their breast. They're not trying to be sexually explicit. This is just part of their everyday lives."

A Facebook representative said that honest mistakes do occur, especially as more than 800 million people are on Facebook. Some would add another "especially": especially as Facebook doesn't actually have all that many employees for its vast alleged worth. The company also explains that its breast rules are akin to those of many other media outlets.
Kwasnica insists that what she is doing is perfectly normal. She told the

Chronicle: "People share their whole days on Facebook, when they're eating, where they're eating, pictures of them feeding their kids spaghetti. We just see this as feeding our children."

A couple of weeks ago, she enjoyed a conference call with Facebook, but she still came away dissatisfied.

She told the Huffington Post: "It is obvious to me now that Facebook really has lost control of their network, especially when their written policy clearly states they support the sharing of breast-feeding images, yet they say they cannot control the actions of their employees who keep removing breast-feeding images and who block accounts of the users who post them--usually 'in error.' This is exasperating to me."

I am not sure that every mother would enjoy putting her breast-feeding pictures up on Facebook. The question, though, is whether these pictures could possibly harm anyone.

Will anyone in Facebook's offices around the world claim that, with the protesting breast-feeders outside, they were hurt or offended? I somehow doubt it.

Perhaps it might be an idea for Facebook to do nothing about breast-feeding pictures for a trial period of, say, three months, and see if anyone really minded.

I can't fathom how large numbers of women can somehow manage to post pictures of themselves breastfeeding 'in error'.
To do so you would first need to take pictures (or instruct someone) to take pictures of you breastfeeding, that would just be the first in a number of retarded steps to make such an occurrence.

I'm no prude, there is nothing wrong with breastfeeding. If a baby needs to be fed, whip it out and feed them - it can be done discretely too if you have any desire to do so.

But why these particular women have such a great desire to upload pictures of themselves breastfeeding for all their friends/families/colleagues to see, I do not get.

The policy is against nudity. I have a feeling that many of these women wouldn't be overly happy if Facebook abandoned their no nudity policy entirely, well too bad. It's either tits in or tits out... or is that tits out or tits in...?

Apparently there is a protest at Facebook HQ today at 10am on Hanover Quay.

Perhaps it will be akin to this 'Breastfeeding flashmob where they refer to themselves as 'lactivists'
A breastfeeding flashmob just seems gross and wrong tbh.


pics/gtfo

Seachmall

Other/5318008

I'd love to see one of those protests to... eh... show my support...

On the one hand, I don't see why facebook should remove pictures of breastfeeding babies. But on the other hand, why the hell would you want to upload pics of yourself like that to the internet?

So, in conclusion; they're all twonks, all of 'em.

danniemcq

it couldn't allow pictures of breasts on a site where teenagers roam.

Facebook would be the last place i would look for pictures of breasts online.

Jesus Wept

Seachmall wrote: »

I'd love to see one of those protests to... eh... show my support...

Do you have a thing for watching mothers breastfeed?

harney

Hmmm, so essentially if I monitor the nurse-in site till the next protest and then post my address as Facebook HQ Europe I'm pretty sorted for a free boob show.

Anybody want to go halves on a Facebook HQ sign?

Yahew

The-Rigger wrote: »

The policy is against nudity. I have a feeling that many of these women wouldn't be overly happy if Facebook abandoned their no nudity policy entirely, well too bad. It's either tits in or tits out... or is that tits out or tits in...?
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Quite. Nail on head. If Facebook had a policy in favour of nudity for women ( or at least allowed topless photos) the same people would be out in arms about the Patriarchal Male dominated anti-feminist corporation, and pointing out - quite legitimately - that there are teenagers on board. So Facebook, which clearly cant use humans to monitor each photo, used some software, I guess, to ban breasts. Thus we get, instead, a rant against the Patriarchal Male dominated anti-breast feeding corporation.

Someone should tell them to write the software which can tell a photo of exposed breasts, and a feeding child( or fed) in the corner, from just exposed breasts.

danniemcq

Deleted User wrote: »

On the one hand, I don't see why facebook should remove pictures of breastfeeding babies. But on the other hand, why the hell would you want to upload pics of yourself like that to the internet?

So, in conclusion; they're all twonks, all of 'em.

its like people who update their profile with a smiley face or sad face or wish their child a happy birthday despite the kid being 2 and not knowing what a facebook is.

I really couldn't give a flying feck about about someone breasfeeding, its natural and has been done for thousands of years BUT if you are that attention seeking that you are putting the photos online then you gotta ask yourself some questions. If one was put up by accident or it was a really nice photo then maybe just maybe its not to bad i guess.

BTW i know i was in a thread on breastfeeding a while back an was of the opinion work away, i'd like to point out that there is a MASSIVE difference in "hey my baby is hungry i better feed him/her" and "hey look there is a photo of me feeding my baby i must share it with the world"

jay-me

Using the toilet would be part of my everyday life... Doesn't mean it's appropriate for me to upload pictures of it..

Yahew

I dont have a problem with it, I do have a problem with people generating giant conspiracy theories based on a lack of understanding of how this could ever work.

Sindri

The-Rigger wrote: »

whip it out

Oh yeah, we know you sympathise with and can feel the pain of women.

sbsquarepants

My girlfriends cousin breast feeds her daughter everywhere and anywhere - so far so good, the kid needs to eat just like the rest of us eh?
Problem is this girl is in school - yes proper school, not some play group/creche type thing. Now i have no problem with breast feeding in general and i'm all for the laides getting their trupenny bits out for whatever reason they deem fit, but a 5 or 6 year old child shouldn't be sucking on their mothers tits, it's fúcking bordering on kiddie porn if you ask me.
Down with this sort of thing! :mad:

Seachmall

Other/5318008

sbsquarepants wrote: »

My girlfriends cousin breast feeds her daughter everywhere and anywhere - so far so good, the kid needs to eat just like the rest of us eh?
Problem is this girl is in school - yes proper school, not some play group/creche type thing. Now i have no problem with breast feeding in general and i'm all for the laides getting their trupenny bits out for whatever reason they deem fit, but a 5 or 6 year old child shouldn't be sucking on their mothers tits, it's fúcking bordering on kiddie porn if you ask me.
Down with this sort of thing! :mad:

I thought you were saying the mother was in school, but after I reread it I was like EEEWWW.

the groutch

Sure Facebook has always been full of tits

Sindri

sbsquarepants wrote: »

My girlfriends cousin breast feeds her daughter everywhere and anywhere - so far so good, the kid needs to eat just like the rest of us eh?
Problem is this girl is in school - yes proper school, not some play group/creche type thing. Now i have no problem with breast feeding in general and i'm all for the laides getting their trupenny bits out for whatever reason they deem fit, but a 5 or 6 year old child shouldn't be sucking on their mothers tits, it's fúcking bordering on kiddie porn if you ask me.
Down with this sort of thing! :mad:

Bitty.

sbsquarepants

Sindri wrote: »

Bitty.

Any time i've seen her i've always had this very picture in my head!:D

Sindri

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Any time i've seen her i've always had this very picture in my head!:D

Yeah that would be this...

EDIT

Any way nothing wrong with incest...

jay-me

sbsquarepants wrote: »

My girlfriends cousin breast feeds her daughter everywhere and anywhere - so far so good, the kid needs to eat just like the rest of us eh?
Problem is this girl is in school - yes proper school, not some play group/creche type thing. Now i have no problem with breast feeding in general and i'm all for the laides getting their trupenny bits out for whatever reason they deem fit, but a 5 or 6 year old child shouldn't be sucking on their mothers tits, it's fúcking bordering on kiddie porn if you ask me.
Down with this sort of thing! :mad:

OMFG!!! That is nasty as hell!!! That kid is going to be scarred!

Jesus Wept

jay-me wrote: »

Using the toilet would be part of my everyday life... Doesn't mean it's appropriate for me to upload pictures of it..

It's natural too.

Sindri wrote: »

Oh yeah, we know you sympathise with and can feel the pain of women.

The pain of what exactly? Not been allowed to post nudity on facebook? Yes, it's a pain I know all too well.

jay-me

The-Rigger wrote: »

It's natural too.



The pain of what exactly? Not been allowed to post nudity on facebook? Yes, it's a pain I know all too well.

Hmm perhaps a flashmob of people dumping outside FB HQ is called for.. Who is with me??

sbsquarepants

Sindri wrote: »

Yeah that would be this...

EDIT

Any way nothing wrong with incest...

Unfortunately, it's more like this

The_B_Man

Being "natural' doesn't mean appropriate. Boundaries need to be set, else they'll be posting pictures of the conception before long!

Mr Benevolent

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

Pics of women breastfeeding are not designed for fapping.

quad_red

The_B_Man wrote: »

Being "natural' doesn't mean appropriate. Boundaries need to be set, else they'll be posting pictures of the conception before long!

But feeding/eating is fundamentally different from defecating or putting on contraception.

FFS, people's weird reactions to breast feeding never cease to amaze me.

It is a child feeding. If you don't have a problem with a baby feeding on a bottle then you shouldn't have a problem with a baby feeding in a way that is 100% natural and far better in terms of physical and mental health for both the child and mother.

But noooo.... ewwww, me no likey. It disgusts me. It burns my eyes. It's disgusting. I don't get my cock out in public, she shouldn't be feeding her child in public.

Sad.

MagicSean

Had to laugh at the name of the poster who thanked the op. "Yahew". The ironing is delicious.

As far as I am concerend, people who think breast feeding is inapproprite behaviour have an unnatural view of what it actually is and should perhaps see a psychologist about potential oedipus complex. God help them if they ever go to Toronto where being topless is legal for women.

Jesus Wept

quad_red wrote: »

But feeding/eating is fundamentally different from defecating or putting on contraception.

FFS, people's weird reactions to breast feeding never cease to amaze me.

It is a child feeding. If you don't have a problem with a baby feeding on a bottle then you shouldn't have a problem with a baby feeding in a way that is 100% natural and far better in terms of physical and mental health for both the child and mother.

But noooo.... ewwww, me no likey. It disgusts me. It burns my eyes. It's disgusting. I don't get my cock out in public, she shouldn't be feeding her child in public.

Sad.

No one but you is talking about breastfeeding in public.
This is not a debate on the merits or demerits of breastfeeding in public.

Jesus Wept

MagicSean wrote: »

Had to laugh at the name of the poster who thanked the op. "Yahew". The ironing is delicious.

As far as I am concerend, people who think breast feeding is inapproprite behaviour have an unnatural view of what it actually is and should perhaps see a psychologist about potential oedipus complex. God help them if they ever go to Toronto where being topless is legal for women.

The breastfeeding in public debate is down the hall.
Read the OP and get back to us.

jay-me

quad_red wrote: »

But feeding/eating is fundamentally different from defecating or putting on contraception.

FFS, people's weird reactions to breast feeding never cease to amaze me.

It is a child feeding. If you don't have a problem with a baby feeding on a bottle then you shouldn't have a problem with a baby feeding in a way that is 100% natural and far better in terms of physical and mental health for both the child and mother.

But noooo.... ewwww, me no likey. It disgusts me. It burns my eyes. It's disgusting. I don't get my cock out in public, she shouldn't be feeding her child in public.

Sad.

Conception not contraception.. And does putting a child in the equation suddenly make it ok to post pictures of your boobs on facebook??? Feeding a child in a public place is one thing when you have no choice... Posting pictures of it on facebook is unnecessary and innapropriate..

Biggins

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

Deleted User wrote: »

...they're all twonks, all of 'em.

I haven't heard that word in a while.
Thanks for making me smile.

MagicSean

The-Rigger wrote: »

The breastfeeding in public debate is down the hall.
Read the OP and get back to us.

The op doesn't ask a question and the poll is a bad attempt at humour so your intent is unclear. I presumed the point of the thread is wether it is appropriate to have breast feeding pics on facebook which I believe I answered by saying that breast feeding is never inappropriate.

quad_red

The-Rigger wrote: »

No one but you is talking about breastfeeding in public.
This is not a debate on the merits or demerits of breastfeeding in public.

No one is forcing anyone to look at anyone elses photos on FB. If you go to look at someone elses photos on FB and don't like what you see, that's tough luck in my opinion (unless it's obscene or racist etc.).

It is about the merits of you seeing a picture of something on FB that is completely acceptable and normal in day to day life.

There was a story on the Huffington Post recently about the fact that Sesame St in the seventies openly featured women nursing babies. But that's no longer the case as nursing has been conflated with some of weird mixed up censoring agenda.

Yahew

MagicSean wrote: »

Had to laugh at the name of the poster who thanked the op. "Yahew". The ironing is delicious.

Why? What are you talking about?

You are probably thinking of Yahoo, if you are "thinking" at all. In fact I am messing with yahweh and yahoo. But yahew means nothing.

But then, who knows what you are thinking. You cant follow the thread.

The only ironing here is that you cant spell or read.

As far as I am concerend, people who think breast feeding is inapproprite behaviour have an unnatural view of what it actually is and should perhaps see a psychologist about potential oedipus complex. God help them if they ever go to Toronto where being topless is legal for women.

This is not what this thread is about. I have no problem with breastfeeding, but this isnt a breast feeding thread. It is this.

1) Facebook have banned breasts.
2) They were criticised for also banning breast feeding.
3) They actually allow some pictures of breast feeding but there are false positives due to their software.
4) Nothing to get alarmed about.

And there is a clear difference to natural occurances - a woman having to breast feed with discretion - and taking a picture, and uploading it. Lots of pictures of teeth cleaning would be annoying, even though natural.

The campaign here is nonsense. FB have no policy against breast feeding, they have just automatically banned some pictures probably because their software flagged it. So there is no reason for any campaign.

Jesus Wept

MagicSean wrote: »

The op doesn't ask a question and the poll is a bad attempt at humour so your intent is unclear.

Unlike this gem...

MagicSean wrote: »

Had to laugh at the name of the poster who thanked the op. "Yahew". The ironing is delicious.

MagicSean wrote: »

your intent is unclear.

MagicSean wrote: »

I presumed the point of the thread is wether it is appropriate to have breast feeding pics on facebook

My intent and the topic for discussion is perfectly clear, you just scanned a few words and then went off on a tangent.

MagicSean wrote: »

which I believe I answered by saying that breast feeding is never inappropriate.

...Here is your post:

MagicSean wrote: »

As far as I am concerend, people who think breast feeding is inapproprite behaviour have an unnatural view of what it actually is and should perhaps see a psychologist about potential oedipus complex. God help them if they ever go to Toronto where being topless is legal for women.

Again, no one has said breastfeeding inappropriate behavior.
Also, I have not said I am against breastfeeding pictures on facebook.

quad_red wrote: »

It is about the merits of you seeing a picture of something on FB that is completely acceptable and normal in day to day life.

As are breasts generally. Hence the common policy, nudity or no nudity, topless or otherwise.
Perhaps facebook should permit topless pictures, problem solved.

smash

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

Why are people offended by tits at all?

Gummy Panda

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

I watched a BBC documentary were a tribal woman was breast feeding baby monkeys. Now that was fúcked up

I've no problem with regular breast feeding unless the kid is too old.

Yahew

Why are people offended by tits at all?

ALright, back to what the OP posted/


These days, [facebooks]'s rules state that breast-feeding pictures are OK, as long as they don't feature "an exposed breast where the child is not actively engaged in nursing."

Ergo, no problem. Campaign about nothing. Campaign about there being some false positives in Facebook's attempt to not allow breasts, but to allow breastfeeding. Which is obviously a difficult software ( or even human input) problem. Its a judgment call.


Nothing to do with Montreal allowing toplessness, or French Beaches going semi-nude, or the liberaller than thou attitude of some posters.

There is, actually, nothing to see here. Facebook do not ban breastfeeding pictures.

robinph

The-Rigger wrote: »

I can't fathom how large numbers of women can somehow manage to post pictures of themselves breastfeeding 'in error'.

The error they are talking about is Facebook closing the accounts, not that the women uploaded pictures without realising it.

No problems with anything they might be doing, can't figure out why you'd want to post a picture of breastfeading online though.

smash

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

Gummy Panda wrote: »

I watched a BBC documentary were a tribal woman was breast feeding baby monkeys. Now that was fúcked up

Good for a fap?

Jesus Wept

robinph wrote: »

The error they are talking about is Facebook closing the accounts, not that the women uploaded pictures without realising it.

No problems with anything they might be doing, can't figure out why you'd want to post a picture of breastfeading online though.

No, I can't figure that out either.
So it's not actually an error whatsoever, they just don't understand what no nudity means.

Paparazzo

smash wrote: »

Why are people offended by tits at all?

A group of women breastfeeding is the same as a group of men standing around wánking. It shouldn't be done in public at all. Don't you know the world will end if someone sees a womans nipple? Mothers should cover the babies eyes as they do it too.





Yes, thats scarcasm

Sindri

Paparazzo wrote: »

A group of women breastfeeding is the same as a group of men standing around wánking. It shouldn't be done in public at all. Don't you know the world will end if someone sees a womans nipple? Mothers should cover the babies eyes as they do it too.





Yes, thats scarcasm

No it's not.;)



:rolleyes:

Gummy Panda

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

smash wrote: »

Gummy Panda wrote: »

I watched a BBC documentary were a tribal woman was breast feeding baby monkeys. Now that was fúcked up

Good for a fap?

Nope

Snazzy_Chazzy

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

Predictable poll results i must say!

CrazyRabbit

Does boards.ie allow such pictures?

It's a conspiracy I tell ya!!!

MagicSean

Yahew wrote: »

Why? What are you talking about?

You are probably thinking of Yahoo, if you are "thinking" at all. In fact I am messing with yahweh and yahoo. But yahew means nothing.

But then, who knows what you are thinking. You cant follow the thread.

The only ironing here is that you cant spell or read.

I'm sure you can see how your name sounds like yahoo. And the irony of a person with a name that sounds like "yahoo" thanking a post about boobs is fairly clear. If it upsets you that much perhaps you should try a different forum. I'm sure there is one where people with no sense of humour feel at home.

Yahew wrote: »

This is not what this thread is about. I have no problem with breastfeeding, but this isnt a breast feeding thread. It is this.

1) Facebook have banned breasts.
2) They were criticised for also banning breast feeding.
3) They actually allow some pictures of breast feeding but there are false positives due to their software.
4) Nothing to get alarmed about.

And there is a clear difference to natural occurances - a woman having to breast feed with discretion - and taking a picture, and uploading it. Lots of pictures of teeth cleaning would be annoying, even though natural.

The campaign here is nonsense. FB have no policy against breast feeding, they have just automatically banned some pictures probably because their software flagged it. So there is no reason for any campaign.

Facebook have banned pictures of breast feeding because they deem them inappropriate for public sharing. It's no different than the breast feeding in public debate no matter how hard you try to differentiate it.

MagicSean

The-Rigger wrote: »

Unlike this gem...

My intent and the topic for discussion is perfectly clear, you just scanned a few words and then went off on a tangent.

...Here is your post:


Again, no one has said breastfeeding inappropriate behavior.
Also, I have not said I am against breastfeeding pictures on facebook.

Actually Facebook has said brestfeeding in public is inappropriate. That's why they don't allow pictures of it to be posted on public pages. I never indicated you had a problem with the pictures.

later12

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

MagicSean wrote: »

Actually Facebook has said brestfeeding in public is inappropriate.

I'd really be surprised if they actually said this. Link?

I think you'll find they have only banned pictures of breasts where a baby is not nursing.

MagicSean

later10 wrote: »

I'd really be surprised if they actually said this. Link?

I think you'll find they have only banned pictures of breasts where a baby is not nursing.

That may have been their intent but it is not what happened and they have not addressed it. Their actions in allowing their staff to remove pictures of children nursing and failing to addresst his problem properly has shown their true face.

And for those of you wondering why a mother would post pictures of it, it's often the time when the child is happiest.

robinph

MagicSean wrote: »

Facebook have banned pictures of breast feeding because they deem them inappropriate for public sharing. It's no different than the breast feeding in public debate no matter how hard you try to differentiate it.

They haven't banned the pictures, just some women are getting unnecessarily upset that the software has automajically blocked their accounts due to detecting breasts.

It is different for the debate on feeding in public.

The equivalent in the real world would be women doing their feeding in a public place at the same time as shouting to everyone around them "Hey, look at me, I've got my boobies out to feed my nipper. Ain't I great. Oi, you, your not looking at me. Look at me.."

MagicSean

robinph wrote: »

They haven't banned the pictures, just some women are getting unnecessarily upset that the software has automajically blocked their accounts due to detecting breasts.

It is different for the debate on feeding in public.

The equivalent in the real world would be women doing their feeding in a public place at the same time as shouting to everyone around them "Hey, look at me, I've got my boobies out to feed my nipper. Ain't I great. Oi, you, your not looking at me. Look at me.."

It's staff members that make the final decision not the software afaik.

And why would it be like shouting it in public? It's a personal page. People don't have to go to your page if they don't want to.

robinph

MagicSean wrote: »

It's staff members that make the final decision not the software afaik.

Yep, but staff members who are probably bored out of their brain from looking at dodgy pictures all day. If they are banning 100's of pictues of breasts a day and then one gets through that happens to have a child attached to it it might not get noticed and they just hit the ban button out of habit. That is the error that Facebook have admitted to and are trying to fix.

MagicSean wrote: »

And why would it be like shouting it in public? It's a personal page. People don't have to go to your page if they don't want to.

Only if they have actually set their profile permissions properly. But even if they have, it is still exhibitionism posting the picture on Facebook. Nothing to do with the feeding of a hungry kid or the rights of nursing mothers.