A bunch of tits on Facebook

Seachmall

Other/5318008

Facebook need to make sure the site is accessible in many countries and some of those countries may have silly laws regarding pornography.

Just saying this isn't necessarily Facebook enforcing it's own idea of what constitutes as Public Decency but it could be an awkward legal issue for it.

Jesus Wept

MagicSean wrote: »

Actually Facebook has said brestfeeding in public is inappropriate. That's why they don't allow pictures of it to be posted on public pages.

Source?

Seachmall wrote:

Just saying this isn't necessarily Facebook enforcing it's own idea of what constitutes as Public Decency but it could be an awkward legal issue for it.

I fail to see how.

Ellis Dee

Wow, 53 posts so far and no one has asked: "Won't anyone think of the children?":):)

Jesus Wept

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Wow, 53 posts so far and no one has asked: "Won't anyone think of the children?":):)

Too busy thinking of the tits obviously.

Seachmall

Other/5318008

The-Rigger wrote: »

I fail to see how.

Conservative countries may define pornography as anything which displays any form of nudity.

Said countries may have banned pornography.

stovelid

They won't get away with it.

Facebook users have a long mammary and won't forget this.

goingforward

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

If breastfeeding was better supported in this country, breastfeeding and the duration of breastfeeding would increase. Ireland could save millions in improved health and social costs.

http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/healthpromotion/Breastfeeding_Support_Services/

Benefits for babies

The health benefits of breastfeeding for babies include less risk of:

• Stomach upsets
• Coughs and colds
• Ear infections
• Diabetes
• Asthma and eczema
• Obesity (being very overweight)
• High blood pressure later in life

Breastfed babies also have:

• Better mental development
• Better mouth formation and straighter teeth

Benefits for mothers

The health benefits of breastfeeding for mothers include:

• Less risk of breast cancer
• Less risk of ovarian cancer
• Less risk of bone thinning (osteoporosis) in later life
• Stronger bones in later life
• Faster return to pre-pregnancy figure

The fb campaign is trying to highlight the damage that illinformed cultural attitudes does to breastfeeding at the expense of babies (and by extension) the nations health.

Public opinion is manipulated by the corporations who profit from formula milk and are happy that breastfeeding is portrayed as obscene.

Tits are for tots

stovelid

goingforward wrote: »

If breastfeeding was better supported in this country, breastfeeding and the duration of breastfeeding would increase. Ireland could save millions in improved health and social costs.

http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/healthpromotion/Breastfeeding_Support_Services/



The fb campaign is trying to highlight the damage that illinformed cultural attitudes does to breastfeeding at the expense of babies (and by extension) the nations health.

Public opinion is manipulated by the corporations who profit from formula milk and are happy that breastfeeding is portrayed as obscene.

Tits are for tots

All well and good but what about Daddy being left with a pair of Beagle's ears to play with when baby goes on to solids?

Evie90

stovelid wrote: »

All well and good but what about Daddy being left with a pair of Beagle's ears to play with when baby goes on to solids?

Well that's just tough for daddy, healthy baby vrs entertained daddy I wonder which is more important

goingforward

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

stovelid wrote: »

All well and good but what about Daddy being left with a pair of Beagle's ears to play with when baby goes on to solids?

Breastfeeding shouldn't finish when a baby goes onto solids, the WHO recommends children should be breastfed for at least 2 years.

Human milk doesn't suddenly turn to water after 6 months and even if it did it would be a much better drink than capri sun (not to mention the immune and IQ boosting properties it has as well).

So poor old daddy should have to wait a bit longer

wilkie2006

wrote:

Kwasnica told the Chronicle: "This is discrimination. There's no other way to look at it. We're being treated as pornographers. Breast-feeding moms, especially ones with infants, spend hours a day with their children at their breast. They're not trying to be sexually explicit. This is just part of their everyday lives.

I've no problem with breast feeding in public or whatever, but what's the story with all these mad, hormonal women getting up in arms? Facebook - like Boards.ie - does not claim to champion freedom of speech. It's a medium in which to communicate with others, provided users adhere to their rules. Even if they're stupid rules. If you don't like FB's conditions of use - as Fr. Fintan Stack would say - "tough". Fcuk off and use another social networking site.

And they're all going to protest outside FB's head office?!!! FFS, it says a lot about the Western world's problems...

stovelid

goingforward wrote: »

Breastfeeding shouldn't finish when a baby goes onto solids, the WHO recommends children should be breastfed for at least 2 years.

Human milk doesn't suddenly turn to water after 6 months and even if it did it would be a much better drink than capri sun (not to mention the immune and IQ boosting properties it has as well).

So poor old daddy should have to wait a bit longer

You appear to be fantastically zealous about breasts.

You will go a long way on this forum.

Yahew

MagicSean wrote: »

Actually Facebook has said brestfeeding in public is inappropriate. That's why they don't allow pictures of it to be posted on public pages. I never indicated you had a problem with the pictures.

No, they didn't.

MagicSean wrote: »

Facebook have banned pictures of breast feeding because they deem them inappropriate for public sharing.

No. They didnt.

MagicSean wrote: »

It's no different than the breast feeding in public debate no matter how hard you try to differentiate it.

No, it isn't.

MagicSean wrote: »

It's staff members that make the final decision not the software afaik.

No, it isn't. Far too many people post pictures every day to use humans to
screen them, there are half a billion users. I bet the number of images posted per week, or two, is equal to the human population.


This is the worst series of posts on a serious topic I have seen for a long time. Self righteous, badly argued and massively ill-informed. The OP published the entire article which said that Facebook did not ban breast feeding unless an extra breast was visible, and clearly there were some false positives in the software they run to work out nudity.


It was in 2008 that Facebook first seems to have gone around removing breast-feeding pictures from the site.
At the time, Facebook claimed it couldn't allow pictures of breasts on a site where teenagers roam. Its stance has become more nuanced over the years.
These days, its rules state that breast-feeding pictures are OK, as long as they don't feature "an exposed breast where the child is not actively engaged in nursing."

There is nothing to see here but guff.

oppenheimer1

quad_red wrote: »

But feeding/eating is fundamentally different from defecating or putting on contraception.

FFS, people's weird reactions to breast feeding never cease to amaze me.

It is a child feeding. If you don't have a problem with a baby feeding on a bottle then you shouldn't have a problem with a baby feeding in a way that is 100% natural and far better in terms of physical and mental health for both the child and mother.

But noooo.... ewwww, me no likey. It disgusts me. It burns my eyes. It's disgusting. I don't get my cock out in public, she shouldn't be feeding her child in public.

Sad.

Fair enough, I wouldn't post a photo of me eating my dinner either.

MagicSean

Yahew wrote: »

No, they didn't.

Yes they did. They may not have released it in a statement but actions speak louder than words.

Yahew wrote: »

No. They didnt.

Yes they did. They have banned pictures if part of a nipple showed and deemed them sexually explicit. Have you even looked up this topic or are you going solely by the article in the op?

Yahew wrote: »

No, it isn't.

I don't know if you are agreeing with me here or what.

Yahew wrote: »

No, it isn't. Far too many people post pictures every day to use humans to
screen them, there are half a billion users. I bet the number of images posted per week, or two, is equal to the human population.


This is the worst series of posts on a serious topic I have seen for a long time. Self righteous, badly argued and massively ill-informed. The OP published the entire article which said that Facebook did not ban breast feeding unless an extra breast was visible, and clearly there were some false positives in the software they run to work out nudity.


It was in 2008 that Facebook first seems to have gone around removing breast-feeding pictures from the site.
At the time, Facebook claimed it couldn't allow pictures of breasts on a site where teenagers roam. Its stance has become more nuanced over the years.
These days, its rules state that breast-feeding pictures are OK, as long as they don't feature "an exposed breast where the child is not actively engaged in nursing."

There is nothing to see here but guff.

If anyone is ill-informed it is you as your entire knowledge of this topic seems to be based on the ops article.

Yahew

MagicSean wrote: »

If anyone is ill-informed it is you as your entire knowledge of this topic seems to be based on the ops article.

Um, yes. Because that is the TOPIC at hand. That is what we are discussing. That is the way threads work.

If you have any other info, which contradicts the OP, feel free to link to it.

But thats back pedalling anyway. You came in here, clearly without reading the OP, and ranting about a totally different topic, public breastfeeding, not pictures on Facebook.

But link, if you have a link.

CrazyRabbit

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Wow, 53 posts so far and no one has asked: "Won't anyone think of the children?":):)

Oh, they don't seem to mind.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1835/gameofthrones.jpg

MagicSean

Yahew wrote: »

Um, yes. Because that is the TOPIC at hand. That is what we are discussing. That is the way threads work.

If you have any other info, which contradicts the OP, feel free to link to it.

But thats back pedalling anyway. You came in here, clearly without reading the OP, and ranting about a totally different topic, public breastfeeding, not pictures on Facebook.

But link, if you have a link.

http://www.google.ie/search?q=facebook+breast+feeding&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a#q=facebook+breast+feeding&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Ww7&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&prmd=imvnsu&source=lnms&tbm=nws&ei=7wAwT5D5FMXQhAfw7fHgCg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=4&ved=0CDAQ_AUoAw&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=de1a21eb82a16fdd&biw=1920&bih=908

There you go. Have a read and educate yourself before you post again.

Its all about choice at the end of the day breastfeed if you want to but the extreme measures these woman are taking i personally dont think are necessary or futhering the cause in a posistive way .

most woman know that id they chose to breastfeed you can do it discretly .

goingforward

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

Archer Hot Sleepwear wrote: »

Its all about choice at the end of the day breastfeed if you want to but the extreme measures these woman are taking i personally dont think are necessary or futhering the cause in a posistive way .

most woman know that id they chose to breastfeed you can do it discretly .

Breastfeeding babies can be discreet once you get the hang of it, but breastfeeding older children and tandem feeding is almost impossible to do discreetly. New mothers can find it embarassing to breastfeed in public because they have never seen other mothers doing it and they may give up or never even try.

Breastfeeding is a public health issue that needs community support and most people like breasts so why do they have a problem seeing them fulfil their biological purpose?

Ireland has the lowest breastfeeding rates in the OECD nations,
Source: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/30/56/43136964.pdf

That should be more embarrassing than the sight of a nipple.

the purple tin

goingforward wrote: »

Breastfeeding shouldn't finish when a baby goes onto solids, the WHO recommends children should be breastfed for at least 2 years.

Human milk doesn't suddenly turn to water after 6 months and even if it did it would be a much better drink than capri sun (not to mention the immune and IQ boosting properties it has as well).

So poor old daddy should have to wait a bit longer

We won't get fooled again

goingforward

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

the purple tin wrote: »

goingforward wrote: »

Breastfeeding shouldn't finish when a baby goes onto solids, the WHO recommends children should be breastfed for at least 2 years.

Human milk doesn't suddenly turn to water after 6 months and even if it did it would be a much better drink than capri sun (not to mention the immune and IQ boosting properties it has as well).

So poor old daddy should have to wait a bit longer

We won't get fooled again

I hope not, we're talking about My Generation

quietriot

Other/5318008

If a woman I'm friends with on facebook put up pictures of herself breastfeeding, she'd be fairly rapidly removed from said friends list. It's attention whoring at its finest and I've no time for such desperate people.

goingforward

goingforward wrote: »

Archer Hot Sleepwear wrote: »

Its all about choice at the end of the day breastfeed if you want to but the extreme measures these woman are taking i personally dont think are necessary or futhering the cause in a posistive way .

most woman know that id they chose to breastfeed you can do it discretly .

Breastfeeding babies can be discreet once you get the hang of it, but breastfeeding older children and tandem feeding is almost impossible to do discreetly. New mothers can find it embarassing to breastfeed in public because they have never seen other mothers doing it and they may give up or never even try.

Breastfeeding is a public health issue that needs community support and most people like breasts so why do they have a problem seeing them fulfil their biological purpose?

Ireland has the lowest breastfeeding rates in the OECD nations,
Source: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/30/56/43136964.pdf

That should be more embarrassing than the sight of a nipple.

speaking from personal experience it can be done discretly though yes twins would be harder to feed if you were doing them together . But in general a light scarf can be used to cover the child and the breast.

I did this not because i was ashamed of breastfeeding but because others around me might be embaressed which would embaress me and make the whole process a task.

I think this protest will put off more woman feeding in public than encourage . Facebook is against nudity as a whole imagine employing a whole division just to check it was a child being fed?

oh and in before best job in the world etc etc

Yahew

MagicSean wrote: »

http://www.google.ie/search?q=facebook+breast+feeding&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a#q=facebook+breast+feeding&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Ww7&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&prmd=imvnsu&source=lnms&tbm=nws&ei=7wAwT5D5FMXQhAfw7fHgCg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=4&ved=0CDAQ_AUoAw&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=de1a21eb82a16fdd&biw=1920&bih=908

There you go. Have a read and educate yourself before you post again.

FFS. thats a google link which searches for about the ban we are discussing. It searches for Facebook+breast+feeding.

Where is the actual link which disproves Facebook's policy to allow breastfeeding if there are no exposed breast(s) where a child is not being fed?

MagicSean

Yahew wrote: »

FFS. thats a google link which searches for about the ban we are discussing. It searches for Facebook+breast+feeding.

Where is the actual link which disproves Facebook's policy to allow breastfeeding if there are no exposed breast(s) where a child is not being fed?

Read any of the news stories or blogs. There are loads of women who have had accounts closed because of their pictures even when they complied with that restriction.

robinph

Still seen no reason for why any sane person would be putting such pictures up on their Facebook to share with the world.

lesserspottedchloe

Other/5318008

I just dont understand why you'd want to post pictures of brestfeeding up on Facebook and why you'd think anybody gives a CRAP and might want to see them?

Caraville

I honestly find it hard to believe that the women who post these pictures up are only doing so because it shows a nice bonding moment between mother and baby. Obviously there are exceptions, but for the most part I would imagine it's very much there as a public display of support for the breastfeeding campaign. Most of the mothers who are posting these photos are more than likely active members of things like La Leche Leagues or advocates of attachment parenting. So it's not simply a "mother and baby" photo- it's a publicity campaign for a wider issue.

Nothing wrong with that of course, but I don't like when it's being covered up as something else.

robinph

Yep, about the only reason that makes sense is that they are posting these pictures with the hope of getting banned. They can then claim some kind of conspiracy against breast feeding and gain the publicity that goes with it.

Jesus Wept

Pretty much, there is a short piece I saw via google news, I think the Indo, all their comments point to this. Also a short youtube video of the protest that is 'private' when you attempt to view.

goingforward

GTFO, no nudity on my social network.

Caraville wrote: »

I honestly find it hard to believe that the women who post these pictures up are only doing so because it shows a nice bonding moment between mother and baby. Obviously there are exceptions, but for the most part I would imagine it's very much there as a public display of support for the breastfeeding campaign. Most of the mothers who are posting these photos are more than likely active members of things like La Leche Leagues or advocates of attachment parenting. So it's not simply a "mother and baby" photo- it's a publicity campaign for a wider issue.

Nothing wrong with that of course, but I don't like when it's being covered up as something else.

It's not being covered up as something else. It's very difficult to counteract the damage done to breastfeeding by the multi million advertising campaigns used by the formula to companies to undermine breastfeeding.

Previously it has been almost impossible to get pictures of breastfeeding in the media (unless it's Angelina Jolie) and almost every picture of baby is accompanied by a bottle.

They have done a marvellous job of getting breastfeeding in the news and on TV and people talking about.

gosuckonalemon

There is no doubt that breast feeding is one of the most natural things in the world and of great benefit to child and mother.

But why the fcuk would any woman think anybody else would like to see pics of her breastfeeding?

Seriously.

Cop on to yourselves girls.