Mosley vs Conelo Alverez

The Prodigy 2

Both fighters want the fight it's all up too management now.

Simular height,reach, conelo prob be abit heavier.

2 fast, heavy handed fighters. great match if ye ask me !

big test of alverez and if he beats him he'l rise too the top.

IMO i think mosley will beat him if not KO him

but hes 40 now and you'l never know how he'l preform

if it was prime shane i'de be much more confindent

minty16

I think Shane Mosely is a shot fighter and even though I would like him to, I don't think he can do it. Hes not even 50 percent of the fighter he used to be judging on his last few outings.

walshb

Been shot now several years. This will be a mauling.

tryingmybestt

mosley beats him if mosley was in his prime or close to it

mosley is so far past his sell by date at this stage it's not a credible fight imo

i'd expect alvarez to bully him and stop him late or by wide points defeat

Spazdarn

I'm afraid you're blinding by fanboy love for Shane. This is a lamb to the slaughter, Shane's on the way out and no where near the Shane we all know and love, and Canelo is far stronger, fresher than him.

colly10

I loved Mosley as a fighter (although I was disguised with his performance v Pac) but Mosley is far too shot to be taking this fight.
Canelo just has far too much energy and work rate for him now. I think he's tidy enough that he won't be caught flush and finished off by Mosley either.
Don't think 154 is a great weight for Mosley either.

I can only see this one going 1 way

cowzerp

It's a step up for a Alvarez but should be no problem-Shane still has power so Alvarez might have to get on his toes a bit more as he takes punches too easy-I see only 1 winner but Alvarez needs to be moving up and is starting to do that now. Alvarez is the next big thing and this could be the start of his fame

walshb

I don't see Shane even having much of a punchers chance here. Canelo is a strong lad, big lad, fit lad. He also takes a good shot.

corny

Alvarez doesn't strike me as a man who'll show Mosley the same compassion Manny showed him either. For the first time in his career he'll be stopped and it'll signal his retirement.

tryingmybestt

mosley doesnt have half the power of cintron and canelo handled cintrons power easily.....a 40 yr old mosley at 154lbs is a bad idea against canelo

mosley had the smarts to frustrate pacman with angles......he won't be able to do this with canelo as canelo has a good boxing brain

RiseToTheTop

Mosley is gonna get hurt, hopefully not big time.

H. Flashman

Canelo will handle him easily, Mosley is going to get stopped this time

Wild_Dogger

colly10 wrote: »

I can only see this one going 1 way

True ..... Mosley by late KO.

cowzerp wrote: »

should be no problem-Shane still has power

Agreed

corny wrote: »

Alvarez doesn't strike me as a man... For the first time in his career he'll be stopped and it'll signal his retirement.

Little bit harsh on Canelo ,.... but yeah , he will be probably get stopped late.

H. Flashman wrote: »

Mosley is going to get stoppage this time

Fixed up your post for ya .

Should be entertaining while it lasts.

corny

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

Little bit harsh on Canelo

How so?

minty16

Mosely looks shot but Alvarez is seriously overated on this MB. I find him slow and methodical. If he fought Shane of a few years ago he gets KO'd 9/10.

nacho libre

minty16 wrote: »

Mosely looks shot but Alvarez is seriously overated on this MB. I find him slow and methodical. If he fought Shane of a few years ago he gets KO'd 9/10.

I think so too. It's just too bad Shane Mosley is just another fighter who doesn't know when to call it quits

rebelomar

I really like Canelo though. Find him a solid all rounder. Hes incredibly strong also..really packed in well at 154lbs. On strength and physique alone id prefer Mosley not to take this fight. He's had a great career but should have retired after Mayweather. Ive got huge respect for Mosley and in his peak he was one of my favourite fighters.

colly10

minty16 wrote: »

Mosely looks shot but Alvarez is seriously overated on this MB. I find him slow and methodical. If he fought Shane of a few years ago he gets KO'd 9/10.

Agree that a prime Mosley and Canelo are not near the same class. I don't think people here are really rating Canelo all that highly, it's just that most believe Mosley has nothing left, he doesn't even have the same heart

Wild_Dogger

If he fails to step up against my #1 fighter - Sugar Shane, then I hope he takes on:
My #2 fighter - James Kirkland,

Kirkland is just an evil guy ...... just a ruthless fighter who comes with serious bad intentions.

A nasty piece of work......... I like him

Fight of the night

corny

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

My #2 fighter - James Kirkland,

Kirkland is just an evil guy ...... just a ruthless fighter who comes with serious bad intentions.

A nasty piece of work......... I like him

Fight of the night

Whats not to like. Convicted armed robber and all.:rolleyes:

The mans a coward who thinks he's tough. Better fighters will make a mockery of him like Ishida did.

cowzerp

colly10 wrote: »

I don't think people here are really rating Canelo all that highly,

Canelo Alvarez is a beast-a very rough diamond it must be said but if he can polish up a bit i expect him to be the new big kid on the block.

Peak Mosley was good enough to be considered a hall of famer so not really fair comparing an up and comer with a legend of the sport till the later stages of his career.

Wild_Dogger

corny wrote: »

The mans a coward who thinks he's tough. Better fighters will make a mockery of him like Ishida did.

There's no doubt about flaws in his arsenal......
However he corrected that in his fight with El Perro.
There's nothing cowardly about him, he is tough.
He's got murder on his mind - tyson without the fame

cowzerp wrote: »

Canelo Alvarez is a beast-

True !
Beast vs Beast ......... stylistically it couldn't be better

walshb

I've let go of Toney. It's about time you followed suit!:)

Wild_Dogger

I'm climbing a mountain here WalshB ........

I'm the last Mosley fan left

cowzerp

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

I'm climbing a mountain here WalshB ........

I'm the last Mosley fan left

I still love me a bit of sugar

megadodge

walshb wrote: »

I've let go of Toney.

Really?

Since when?

Wild_Dogger

Mosley's got it ........on the undercard on May 5th

http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=22892

also on the undercard is kid Chocolate vs Winky .....

That ol' chestnut

walshb

megadodge wrote: »

Really?

Since when?

Since post number 23, duh!

The Prodigy 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsZQJONa538

May 5th is goina be a savage night of boxing !!!

RiseToTheTop

Don't mention prime Mosley in this thread. Canelo is still only 21.

The Prodigy 2

RiseToTheTop wrote: »

Don't mention prime Mosley in this thread. Canelo is still only 21.

ye thats true. 39-0 at 21 years old is some special !

Wild_Dogger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM4Y7O96w4I

walshb

My neck hurts.

runboyrun

Alvarez is rated extremely high due to his future potential, not his current state!

marvsins

Some of the comments in here are bizarre. Saying a 21year old on the up would be beaten by a prime Mosley is slightly mental and is pointless. Going to be a great night of boxing. Floyd on points and Alverez by TKO with Mosley just sitting in the chair out of gas.

Wild_Dogger

walshb wrote: »

My neck hurts.

can't you lie on your side or sumfing ...........

Marvsins ......... Mosley in his prime was THE p4p #1 in the world, by some margin..... people forget that cause there wasn't so much sky sports and internet activity back then.

Canelo dosent compare

RiseToTheTop

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

can't you lie on your side or sumfing ...........

Marvsins ......... Mosley in his prime was THE p4p #1 in the world, by some margin..... people forget that cause there wasn't so much sky sports and internet activity back then.

Canelo dosent compare

As I said earlier, Alvarez is still only 21.

Come back in 15 years time and we'll compare them prime VS prime then.

Wild_Dogger

ok , I'll be back in 2026 ..........

still think Canelo is taylor-made for Mosley.

Can't wait..........6/1 ? going to make a fortune off this one

RiseToTheTop

Do you guys think Alvarez when he reaches his prime will be as good/better than Mosley in his prime?

Wild_Dogger

No way , he's a money backed artificially promoted fighter .
He's getting it all handed to him .

He's far too slow for a 21 year old...

Just watch Mosley take this kid to school

minty16

I never said Mosely of a few years ago beats Alvarez, I said he KO's him 9/10. Different point and certainly a valid/debatable one. Also Alvarez had had 40 odd fights! Shane was beating Oscar after less! Ok so I understand people are talking about 'potential' but I still think his potential is overrated. Would still love to see Alvarez-JCC Jr.

colly10

I don't see Alvarez as a fraud at all, I can't see him ever being as good as a prime Mosley though. P4P I don't see him becoming as fast and powerful as Mosley was. I don't see his skills reaching the same level either although I wouldn't totally rule it out

walshb

Alvarez is a bigger man than Mosley was at the same age, and considrably so. Apples and oranges here. Let Alvarez keep developing and improving. As for technique and fluidity with the hands, Saul is very neat and skilled, every bit as proficient as any vesrion of Mosley at Mosley's younger years.

barney4001

At 40 Im sure Mosley has had his day i am hoping for a win for the younger man at 21 he has it all in front of him

Wild_Dogger

walshb wrote: »

As for technique and fluidity with the hands, Saul is ...... every bit as proficient as any version of Mosley at Mosley's younger years.

No ..... just No !

Am I missing something about Canelo ? I just dont see the same things that you all see in him .

The only thing I see when I look at Canelo , is that he is absolutely massive for his weight.

Cant see the speed , cant see the superior skill .

Im expecting 7/1 on Mosley by fight night .
I'm on it alone ..............

Rich I tell thee ...... RICHHHHH

megadodge

Can you genuinely not see the skill?

Are you just anti-ginger?

This kid has some beautiful moves. Little feints, beautiful selection of punches, all of them thrown very technically correct and usually in combination.

So what if he doesn't have Roy Jones speed. Very few do. He's no slower than Julio Cesar Chavez and he certainly didn't have a bad career.

walshb

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

No ..... just No !

Am I missing something about Canelo ? I just dont see the same things that you all see in him .

The only thing I see when I look at Canelo , is that he is absolutely massive for his weight.

Cant see the speed , cant see the superior skill .

Im expecting 7/1 on Mosley by fight night .
I'm on it alone ..............

Rich I tell thee ...... RICHHHHH

You see no fluidity, movements, synchronicity and text book punching? He throws beautiful smooth and clean punches. Very composed, balanced and has great tempo and rhythm in his boxing. Shane was very good, but to me, not as naturally relaxed or fluid when committing to attacks.

In simpler terms, he looks like a boxer! Certainly punches and moves like one. As for speed, he's JMW, apart from the likes of SRL, Oscar and Hearns, there were many very good JMW men that were not blessed with pure speed. Mike McCallum, Julian Jackson, even Winky Wright and Tito were far from speedsters. And, this "lack" of speed hasn't affected him yet.

Wild_Dogger