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Bank refused to accept cash for a mortgage payment.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    patwicklow wrote: »
    Well it really is all leading to this the dots are starting to connect!

    http://www.trueconspiracies.com/

    Credit: The powerful conspirators are made up largely of the international bankers, and the Illuminati, which is a super-rich organization, which controls the mainstream media, workforce, education system, companies, banks, energy supplies and governments. They are controlled by the richest people in the world such as the super-rich Rothschild and Rockefeller families. They also hide behind many organizations such as the United Nations, the WTO and the Council on Foreign relations.
    There is also a Jesuit-Vatican connection, planning the merging of many faiths into the apostate one world church which will serve Satan. The New Age movements are also part of the plan.

    Debt: To gain full control of the world's money would mean full control over everyone, especially those in debt. This is exactly what the international bankers conspiracy is doing. Every government is in debt to them. This debt is increasing. Personal debt is very widespread and increasing. Hence almost everyone is in debt. Wasteful spending, borrowing and debt are encouraged. Therefore people and governments are becoming increasingly in the bankers control, as they have to pay interest, which the bankers can manipulate to their wil


    what are lot are doing as we speak: Governments are forced to sell assets, lose sovereignty, and place citizens in poverty to repay their debt.

    The conspirators are privatising, buying and controlling government assets.

    The conspirators bribe governments with political donations.

    They gain ownership of land through world heritage, which is then miss-managed and restricted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    Seachmall wrote: »
    How does a bank not accepting cash lead you to conclude on a global conspiracy?

    Pat, don't take this the wrong way but I think you might be crazy.

    Its you that dont see the bigger picture, Bank refusing cash just take your time reading the other treads even for five minutes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    patwicklow wrote: »
    Its you that dont see the bigger picture, Bank refusing cash just take your time reading the other treads even for five minutes!

    I get that a cashless society would inevitably lead to an invasion of privacy and that invasion of privacy could be abused. I do.

    What I don't get is how you're concluding that a Global Conspiracy is behind it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I get that a cashless society would inevitably lead to an invasion of privacy and that invasion of privacy could be abused. I do.

    What I don't get is how you're concluding that a Global Conspiracy is behind it.

    Look at it this way guess who owns the bank were the guy was refused?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Solair wrote: »
    Seriously, this is Ireland. There's not a hope of it being a police state.

    The Government hasn't even got a clue how many households there are, never mind who lives in them.

    Hence they're asking people to voluntarily register on www.householdcharge.ie

    It was totally unaware of money that it was paying out in pensions that it subsequently decided it was supposed to have taxed.

    Eh, there were 300,000 empty houses and they only suddenly realised this after census officials knocked on doors and got no answers.

    If there's any illumaniti in control, they sure as hell aren't in Kildare Street!

    Tinfoil hats definitely not required here !

    Hibernia, the last bastion of freedom in the known world!

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Galia


    Even the people at http://www.abovetopsecret.com/ has spotted this videos is a fake.
    TV camera nicely set up in the corner..even in shot .. nuff sayed

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread805449/pg1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    sher55 wrote: »
    Even the people at http://www.abovetopsecret.com/ has spotted this videos is a fake.
    TV camera nicely set up in the corner..even in shot .. nuff sayed

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread805449/pg1

    what vid? is there a direct link


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Galia


    patwicklow wrote: »
    what vid? is there a direct link

    • how can i paste .. a image in boards.?
    If you go to the site at the moment it is the 3rd post down. you clearly see a camera perfectly set up on a tripod.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    sher55 wrote: »
    • how can i paste .. a image in boards.?
    If you go to the site at the moment it is the 3rd post down. you clearly see a camera perfectly set up on a tripod.

    Got it thanks i know you say it all fake but it still boils down to the bank not taking cash so we do know were its all leading to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    sher55 wrote: »
    • how can i paste .. a image in boards.?
    If you go to the site at the moment it is the 3rd post down. you clearly see a camera perfectly set up on a tripod.

    Right click, "copy image location"/"copy image url", and then link it here. Don't think you can post pictures directly in this forum.

    Anyway, here it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Galia


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Right click, "copy image location"/"copy image url", and then link it here. Don't think you can post pictures directly in this forum.

    Anway, here it is.


    ok thanks nice work.
    Even the conspiracy nuts noticed it just saying setting up a perfect camera in a bank is weird .


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    44leto wrote: »
    We probably have the technology to have a cashless society now. I seen a future system when our phones will be our credit cards. A cashless society would eventually make money laundering and tax evasion difficult. Perhaps we will see it in our lifetime.
    Cashless society ?

    At what point will we realise that this is possible ?

    Actually it has been possible in South Korea for a couple of years, the technology will soon be mandatory on all smartphones.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/13/korea-mobile-idUSL3E7HD0N920110613
    (Reuters) - South Korea plans to install or upgrade 300,000 mobile payment checkouts at major retailers and transport services this year in its latest push in the potentially lucrative market as the likes of Google Inc and Apple Inc competitively introduce their own pay-by-phone services.

    South Korea's communications commission also said on Monday that it would require mobile phone vendors to equip all smartphones with near field communication (NFC) technology, which allows wireless data exchanges at short range, letting people pay for goods, store electronic tickets, collect coupons by swiping a cell phone at a checkout or scanning tags on movie posters.

    While you could argue that we don't have the infrastructure of Korea you'd think we be ahead of places like Kenya when it comes to stuff like this.
    http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=257
    People living on a euro a day can make cashless transactions too.

    At what point will we realise that this is possible ?

    It already happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Galia


    Cashless society ?

    At what point will we realise that this is possible ?

    Actually it has been possible in South Korea for a couple of years, the technology will soon be mandatory on all smartphones.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/13/korea-mobile-idUSL3E7HD0N920110613

    While you could argue that we don't have the infrastructure of Korea you'd think we be ahead of places like Kenya when it comes to stuff like this.
    http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=257
    People living on a euro a day can make cashless transactions too.

    At what point will we realise that this is possible ?

    It already happened.

    Cashless society is ready now and has been for at least 10+ years.
    Its not a matter of if but when.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    Even if our overlords cast the cashless society into being there will be some other form of anonymous bargaining chip. Maybe somethign similar to bitcoin will catch on though hopefully not bitcoin itself (nerds in their 'mom's basement wasting her electricity in the hope of becoming millionaires if bitcoin stays)

    Everyone has something to hide and its unreasonable to expect people to be happy with the government knowing every detail of everyone's lives in the hope of preventing or solving a few crimes


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    Thats cctv for security. It wont tell exactly how much you spent on any given day, and on what. Loyalty cards are voluntary.
    It will tell them what you bought and any attempt to block the cameras view might look like an attempt at shoplifting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    sher55 wrote: »
    Cashless society is ready now and has been for at least 10+ years.
    Its not a matter of if but when.

    Yes small steps to a bigger picture and full control over the masses


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Galia


    Actually bitcoin is not to be laughed at:

    https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade

    One day............one day ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Galia


    patwicklow wrote: »
    Yes small steps to a bigger picture and full control over the masses

    Ok.. you buy top up for a mobile phone..... you convert cash for credit to be used by the network provender for example.
    And that is one example of many.

    I see one day cash will be uploaded to a biometric chip on a card or implant to be instantly used wherever.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭ceegee


    sher55 wrote: »
    Even the people at http://www.abovetopsecret.com/ has spotted this videos is a fake.
    TV camera nicely set up in the corner..even in shot .. nuff sayed

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread805449/pg1

    Several posters on that site saying its a camera used by that bank for taking photos for atm cards. Doesnt look like a normal sized tv camera. Also no lighting/sound equipment.

    If it was faked why would they bother having that camera there? Surely any footage from a hard camera would be obviously fake??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    Why does it have to be biometric or implant instead of any other device? biometrics are just like a password that cannot be changed, not actually that secure

    The one company doing implants for humans kind of died down there a while back after they realised the implants weren't that safe after all and can be cloned. No real advantage to having the thing under your skin unless you're that prone to losing things


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    eth0 wrote: »
    Why does it have to be biometric or implant instead of any other device? biometrics are just like a password that cannot be changed, not actually that secure

    The one company doing implants for humans kind of died down there a while back after they realised the implants weren't that safe after all and can be cloned. No real advantage to having the thing under your skin unless you're that prone to losing things

    its here: Reporting technology currently in place which eventually could be used when the edict is issued to take the mark of the beast in the right hand or in the forehead in order to buy or sell or be killed.

    http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Chip_Implants/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Galia


    eth0 wrote: »
    Why does it have to be biometric or implant instead of any other device? biometrics are just like a password that cannot be changed, not actually that secure

    The one company doing implants for humans kind of died down there a while back after they realised the implants weren't that safe after all and can be cloned. No real advantage to having the thing under your skin unless you're that prone to losing things

    Convince .
    Also you are 100% correct RFID is the new big thing.

    People are always loosing things its there nature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    patwicklow wrote: »
    We are heading for a cashless society, where soon everyone will be forced to have a mark on their right hand or forehead to buy or sell. The Bible predicts that the Beast or Antichrist will fool the elect of many religions that he is God by doing miracles and promising peace. He will break his peace agreement and totally rule the world. He will force everyone to worship him and accept a satanic mark on their right hand or forehead in order to buy or sell

    There is strong evidence that the Illuminati have well planned this system of a satanic one-world government. People will be led to believe it is a good idea, as it will save or prevent; money being stolen, credit cards being lost, paper checks, tax evasion, handling cash and currency fluctuation.

    Dont be blinkered open your mind

    Seriously, am I the only one who saw this post?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    amazing reading some of the posts. we get the society we deserve i guess.

    yes, the man walked in with a camera to a bank he's been in before to make a cash payment of 1300 dollars- to illustrate a point. imo a valid point. no, he wasnt a drug dealer gangster etc,


    anyway, the BOI recently told me they would not be taking cash lodgements for payment into my LL's BOI account. (nothing huge, average enough amt.


    let me repeat that.

    the BOI recently told me they would not be taking cash lodgements for payment into my LL's BOI account.

    they asked my to set up a direct debit instead.

    i'll let you know what the consumer people say about it, (the ombudsman said try them first) but to me, it's fuking outrageous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Galia


    ceegee wrote: »
    Several posters on that site saying its a camera used by that bank for taking photos for atm cards. Doesnt look like a normal sized tv camera. Also no lighting/sound equipment.

    If it was faked why would they bother having that camera there? Surely any footage from a hard camera would be obviously fake??

    I have never in my life seen a camera set up on a tripod in a bank as normal. Security wall mounted cameras yes but you can see my point its just 100% weird to have a camera just in position .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    patwicklow wrote: »
    its here: Reporting technology currently in place which eventually could be used when the edict is issued to take the mark of the beast in the right hand or in the forehead in order to buy or sell or be killed.

    http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Chip_Implants/

    It's gone. VeriChip defunct since 2010.

    Although many of these invasive big-brother initiatives are like an unflushable sh1t - you can only make it go away for a few seconds before it comes back up. I can't see this catching on. Not even the ultra-modern 'everything about the past is bad' young whippersnappers will be queing up for their implant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    amazing reading some of the posts. we get the society we deserve i guess.

    yes, the man walked in with a camera to a bank he's been in before to make a cash payment of 1300 dollars- to illustrate a point. imo a valid point. no, he wasnt a drug dealer gangster etc,


    anyway, the BOI recently told me they would not be taking cash lodgements for payment into my LL's BOI account. (nothing huge, average enough amt.


    let me repeat that.

    the BOI recently told me they would not be taking cash lodgements for payment into my LL's BOI account.

    they asked my to set up a direct debit instead.

    i'll let you know what the consumer people say about it, (the ombudsman said try them first) but to me, it's fuking outrageous.

    Its spreading so and all coming from the top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    amazing reading some of the posts. we get the society we deserve i guess.

    yes, the man walked in with a camera to a bank he's been in before to make a cash payment of 1300 dollars- to illustrate a point. imo a valid point. no, he wasnt a drug dealer gangster etc,


    anyway, the BOI recently told me they would not be taking cash lodgements for payment into my LL's BOI account. (nothing huge, average enough amt.


    let me repeat that.

    the BOI recently told me they would not be taking cash lodgements for payment into my LL's BOI account.

    they asked my to set up a direct debit instead.

    i'll let you know what the consumer people say about it, (the ombudsman said try them first) but to me, it's fuking outrageous.
    What's LL mean?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    humanji wrote: »
    What's LL mean?
    Landlord


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    And was it a particular branch of BOI, or were you told all BOI's are the same?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    humanji wrote: »
    And was it a particular branch of BOI, or were you told all BOI's are the same?
    more than one branch, but only one city


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    humanji wrote: »
    And was it a particular branch of BOI, or were you told all BOI's are the same?
    more than one branch (one city, they didnt mention nationwide) back later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    more than one branch (one city, they didnt mention nationwide) back later

    Its starting


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    patwicklow wrote: »
    Its starting
    Well it's starting without me.

    Unbelievable nonsense.

    i presume it's to cut down of counter face time.

    well, the govt issues bank licences, so until that changes there should be some legal framework to determine whether this is kosher or not. but afai can see, it's pure old fashioned bullying.

    And no, my LL is not a criminal of that i'm most certain. and yes, i give my name every time (so the LL knows its me!) and ID when lodging if asked.

    amazing, a bank saying they will be refusing CASH lodgements to their OWN CUSTOMERS!

    crazy B'stards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    Well it's starting without me.

    Unbelievable nonsense.

    i presume it's to cut down of counter face time.

    well, the govt issues bank licences, so until that changes there should be some legal framework to determine whether this is kosher or not. but afai can see, it's pure old fashioned bullying.

    And no, my LL is not a criminal of that i'm most certain.

    amazing, a bank saying there will be refusing CASH lodgements to their OWN CUSTOMERS!

    crazy B'stards.

    I think this is most likely because they want to get rid of their branches and associated staff rather than some big brother cashless society being ushered in from above. Use a credit union instead they don't have such a bad attitude towards their customers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    Well it's starting without me.

    Unbelievable nonsense.

    i presume it's to cut down of counter face time.

    well, the govt issues bank licences, so until that changes there should be some legal framework to determine whether this is kosher or not. but afai can see, it's pure old fashioned bullying.

    And no, my LL is not a criminal of that i'm most certain. and yes, i give my name and ID when lodging if asked.

    amazing, a bank saying there will be refusing CASH lodgements to their OWN CUSTOMERS!

    crazy B'stards.

    Just try get bit of time to read all the treads, a bigger picture will emerge for you to see were all this is coming from and were it will end up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    eth0 wrote: »
    I think this is most likely because they want to get rid of their branches and associated staff rather than some big brother cashless society being ushered in from above. Use a credit union instead they don't have such a bad attitude towards their customers
    Eth, that is EXACTLY the reason why.

    but a bank is a very strange thing. it's a private business under strict (in theory) govt licence to perform certain public services.

    refusing cash at P.O.S for a customer aint one of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    Eth, that is EXACTLY the reason why.

    but a bank is a very strange thing. it's a private business under strict (in theory) govt licence to perform certain public services.

    refusing cash at P.O.S for a customer aint one of them

    Could be printing punts

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/ireland-business-blog-with-lisa-ocarroll/2011/sep/26/eurozone-crisis-ireland-euro-punt


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    they asked my to set up a direct debit instead.
    you have NO control of a direct debit.

    The landlord could tell you about a rent increase, then take the increase and you'd have to sue to get the money back

    you would not be able to prevent this.


    Ask them which bank they would recommend you move to .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭ceegee


    sher55 wrote: »
    ceegee wrote: »
    Several posters on that site saying its a camera used by that bank for taking photos for atm cards. Doesnt look like a normal sized tv camera. Also no lighting/sound equipment.

    If it was faked why would they bother having that camera there? Surely any footage from a hard camera would be obviously fake??

    I have never in my life seen a camera set up on a tripod in a bank as normal. Security wall mounted cameras yes but you can see my point its just 100% weird to have a camera just in position .

    Havent seen one in a bank but have seen same set up in various places where photos are taken for cards.

    IMO it would be weirder for someone faking a video to leave an unmanned camera directly in shot than for a bank to take photos of new customers or people getting new cards. Especially when the video is supposed to be filmed by the angry cash guy. Makes no sense for there to be a camera so far away from him


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    you have NO control of a direct debit.

    The landlord could tell you about a rent increase, then take the increase and you'd have to sue to get the money back

    you would not be able to prevent this.


    Ask them which bank they would recommend you move to .
    exactly.

    I'm not a BOI customer, but the LL is - hence my simple solution of lodging the rent into his BOI account , which suits my circumstances and preferences.

    they're bullying, and i wont take it lying down. (or on my belly with my eyes clenched tight :D )


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    qrrgprgua wrote: »
    Rightly so.. Its call an anti money laundering procedure.

    Cashless society is the future.

    No, it's really not, despite the financial sector pushing for it. It marginalises those without bank accounts and would particularly affect Ireland, a largely cash-using society and vulnerable people like the elderly or the homeless.

    I, for one, do not want to give the very same banks who drove the recession with reckless lending, total control over how, when and where I spend my cash, nor the ability to be able to have information on all of my spending habits.


  • Registered Users Posts: 248 ✭✭07438991


    This is a great story.. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    amazing reading some of the posts. we get the society we deserve i guess.

    yes, the man walked in with a camera to a bank he's been in before to make a cash payment of 1300 dollars- to illustrate a point. imo a valid point. no, he wasnt a drug dealer gangster etc,


    anyway, the BOI recently told me they would not be taking cash lodgements for payment into my LL's BOI account. (nothing huge, average enough amt.


    let me repeat that.

    the BOI recently told me they would not be taking cash lodgements for payment into my LL's BOI account.

    they asked my to set up a direct debit instead.

    i'll let you know what the consumer people say about it, (the ombudsman said try them first) but to me, it's fuking outrageous.

    I'm afraid that simply didn't happen. There is no way they would have instructed you to set up a direct debit (as it would be impossible to do so).

    Why did you insist on going into a branch and paying through cash? Why not just transfer the money from your own current account like everyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    07438991 wrote: »
    This is a great story.. :D

    Yes and its all coming out now even about Irish banks refusing to take cash.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    dotsman wrote: »
    I'm afraid that simply didn't happen. There is no way they would have instructed you to set up a direct debit (as it would be impossible to do so).

    please explain the bold bit (now, they said "set up an online transaction to make regular payments", they didnt use the words direct debit, but what else could they mean, and anyway, whatever the terminology (ie standing order etc) the request was quite clear - online banking sonny, not cash at the counter)

    Why did you insist on going into a branch and paying through cash? Why not just transfer the money from your own current account like everyone else?
    as to your second bit, that is irrelevant.

    as to your assertion 'that simply didnt happen, i'm categorically stating it did and at two different branches of BOI

    ETA, actually i think direct debit or standing order was the statement, but i cant recall the exact words, except for the set up an regular payment online as we will not be accepting over the counter cahs payment in the future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Thread reminded me of this. Man arrested for fraud for trying to cash a cheque the bank issued to him. Nuts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭ceegee


    07438991 wrote: »
    This is a great story.. :D

    Just a shame that all the claims in the op regarding the bank refusing cash and the arrest are utter fiction


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