Neighbours Bull... where do I stand?

Toplink

I am sure this has cropped up here before.

Neighbours bull breaks into our herd of yearlings early last year. We remove the bull within hours... however the damage was done. Flash forward to the end of Jan 2012 and we have a 19 month old heifer in calf to a limousin bull.

We monitor for days and a straight forward section is needed and calf initially does ok but ends up dying the next day. The young cow dies 2 days later with a suspected infection. All in all a disaster... :mad:

Is there any legal position on this? Or is it a case of see what happens... This piece of land is away from the home farm so no real close relationship with said neighbour.

Any advice appreciated. I am new to farming and the ould fella is too nice to pursue this further.

whelan1

did the other farmer know his bull had been out? did he know your heifer was in calf?

Casinoking

I'd say put it down to experience and move on. Bulls will be bulls and sometimes break out, it's unfortunate you lost the heifer but I wouldn't recommend going down the legal route. It might be your cattle breaking out the next time and you'd like to think the neighbour would be in some way understanding if the shoe was on the other foot.

6480

Toplink wrote: »

I am sure this has cropped up here before.

Neighbours bull breaks into our herd of yearlings early last year. We remove the bull within hours... however the damage was done. Flash forward to the end of Jan 2012 and we have a 19 month old heifer in calf to a limousin bull.

We monitor for days and a straight forward section is needed and calf initially does ok but ends up dying the next day. The young cow dies 2 days later with a suspected infection. All in all a disaster... :mad:

Is there any legal position on this? Or is it a case of see what happens... This piece of land is away from the home farm so no real close relationship with said neighbour.

Any advice appreciated. I am new to farming and the ould fella is too nice to pursue this further.

a batch of heifers can break out as quick as any bull can so i would keep on the neighbours side , although i would tell him about it and maybe go 50 50 in putting up a better fence ,as ur new to farming its not a real disaster there s always worst things that can happen

johngalway

Bad blood lasts longer than bad luck.

leg wax

it should have been sorted after the bull was taken out,sorry but it think you have only you to blame,you knew a bull was in ,did you scan to see did he do damage ,and did you enject to abort,did you let the owner of bull know what happened.the same thing happened me owner was told heifers were scanned 2 were incalf,got the bulls owners vet to enject and if they dont lose it he buys the heifers at value of comrades he was happy enough.bonus was he fenced his side.

whelan1

was going to post similar , there are plenty of things could have been done before it came to a c-section and the death of both animals, but hindsight is a great thing

towzer2010

Thats unfortunate Toplink but it is to late now.

The standard practice is to notify the other farmer and agree on a course of action. Normally he pays the fee for the injection and subsequent ones if needed but again that must be agreed at the time.

If he was never notified of the pregnancy he would probably have a good defence legally anyway.

yessam

i think if you put heifers in a field next to a bull, you are looking for trouble. after all they are your heifers and you should be looking out for your best interest.

i have a neighbour who used to put cows in a field next to our bull just to get them in calf.

i had to move my bull as i was the one getting caught for repairing the fence.

whelan1

yessam wrote: »

i think if you put heifers in a field next to a bull, you are looking for trouble. after all they are your heifers and you should be looking out for your best interest.

i have a neighbour who used to put cows in a field next to our bull just to get them in calf.

i had to move my bull as i was the one getting caught for repairing the fence.

there is another side to this we have had cows in our fields for years, neighbour decides to go in to bull beef, he assumes the rotten pallets he has thrown on his side of the ditch is adequate fencing, we have our side of the ditch already properly fenced but his side wouldnt stop anything, if you have a bull / bulls you should have adequate fencing, what kept a cow in is not going to keep a hormonal bull in

Toplink

Thanks for the advice folks.

I have cooled down a bit since yesterdays post and would agree with the sentiment above. Earlier interaction with the neighbour should have been carried out but i'll know the next time.

6480

make sure there is no next time