Was I right?

paky

I was doing security for an aviation avent in the Four Seasons last week. I was there for 12 hours straight and coming to the end of my shift I began to slouch because I was on my feet all day. The event was organized by an independant group, and they had hired some function rooms from the hotel. My job was to prevent anyone who wasn't registered to be at the event from entering the function rooms. Coming towards the end of my shift, I was slouching against the wall but not so obviously, and the manager, upon doing his rounds, told me to stand up straight as it looks more professional. I told him that he wasn't in a position to comment on how I did my job as it was a private function. I asked him would he like to give advice to the staff of KPMG, who were running a promotional booth beside me, on how to perform their job and he said no. I then told him to fcuk himself.
Was I right?

fedor.2.

Silly paky

Gordon

paky wrote: »

I was doing security for an aviation avent in the Four Seasons last week. I was there for 12 hours straight and coming to the end of my shift I began to slouch because I was on my feet all day. The event was organized by an independant group, and they had hired some function rooms from the hotel. My job was to prevent anyone who wasn't registered to be at the event from entering the function rooms. Coming towards the end of my shift, I was slouching against the wall but not so obviously, and the manager, upon doing his rounds, told me to stand up straight as it looks more professional. I told him that he wasn't in a position to comment on how I did my job as it was a private function. I asked him would he like to give advice to the staff of KPMG, who were running a promotional booth beside me, on how to perform their job and he said no. I then told him to fcuk himself.
Was I right?

I think you should tell your manager to go fcuck himself every day, just to make sure he understands your position.

poisonated

If it was the independent group that hired you, then yeah you were right. If they had set it up but sub contracted you from the hotel, then the manager has every right to tell you to stand up straight and look respectable.

Marty McFly

No your meant to act in a professional manner at all times slouching and telling someone to fcuk off could be deemed a sackable offence.

Katgurl

100% right

ringadingding

Slouching against a wall whilst being associated with a 5* hotel ?

I work in hospitality and I'd have ordered you off the premises.

The guests would think your a staff member.

Jaysus, have some pride in your job.

LizT

telling him to go f%ck himself was a bit much. You may not be his employee but people in the hotel don't know that.

mattjack

Does your employer know you told a manager to fcuk off ?

Biggins

As an employee of anything, how your manner is, reflects on a business and its name/reputation.
You should have been more diplomatic to be honest.
You might have been tired but did you politely explain that or did you just go for your manager, he doing his job too - part of which is to maintain an air of professionalism in regard to the business ye are both in!

saa

If it really was the right thing to do why would you be asking us,
all fine until you told him to fcuk off..

paky

poisonated wrote: »

If it was the independent group that hired you, then yeah you were right. If they had set it up but sub contracted you from the hotel, then the manager has every right to tell you to stand up straight and look respectable.

it was an independent group and had nothing to do with the hotel. i think he thought he had some right to speak down to me because it was a minimum wage job as opposed to the other employees there who were with large multi national companies

ChunkyLover_53

This would be an ecumenical matter.

ringadingding

paky wrote: »

it was an independent group and had nothing to do with the hotel. i think he thought he had some right to speak down to me because it was a minimum wage job as opposed to the other employees there who were with large multi national companies

Was anybody else slouching against a wall ?
Please don't play the minimum wage victim in this case.

The manager was 100% correct in this case.

Biggins

paky wrote: »

it was an independent group and had nothing to do with the hotel. i think he thought he had some right to speak down to me because it was a minimum wage job as opposed to the other employees there who were with large multi national companies

I suspect he wasn't looking at a minimum wage person, he was observing someone that didn't reflect an image that he wish his employers business to project.

Not every excuse can be just centre around "O', I was on minimum wage!"
I also suspect you might have shot yourself in the foot if similar job opportunities might arise again in the future.

paky

saa wrote: »

If it really was the right thing to do why would you be asking us,
all fine until you told him to fcuk off..

i know im just so proud at what i said i just cant help telling people about it. it was so funny. he was lucky i didn't crack his fcuken head open

Biggins

paky wrote: »

i know im just so prud at what i one i just cant hlp telling people about it. it was so funny. he was lucky i didn't crack his fcuken head open

*sigh*

Charming comment!

aujopimur

I hope you did'nt have your hands in your pockets, or picking your nose.

paky

aujopimur wrote: »

I hope you did'nt have your hands in your pockets, or picking your nose.

its not my style

al28283

you don't deserve minimum wage

Notorious97

I dont think the choice of words was the best, if i am ever anywhere on behalf of my company the last thing id do is tell some one that as it looks bad on the company.

Everyone should try look professional just out of respect for themselves and give a good impression of themselves

Daroxtar

paky wrote: »

i know im just so proud at what i said i just cant help telling people about it. it was so funny. he was lucky i didn't crack his fcuken head open

And do you ever wonder just why you are working as a minimum wage hired monkey security guard?

44leto

I think you were wrong, you should have said yes sir and fallen on your knees apologizing for your unprofessionalism, he should have docked your pay.

paky

44leto wrote: »

I think you were wrong, you should have said yes sir and fallen on your knees apologizing for your unprofessionalism, he should have docked your pay.

he wasn't my employer. the group organising the event hired the security. the hotel has its own security, proper nob heads

the groutch

if you don't want to do your job properly, there's 450,000 people waiting to replace you

44leto

paky wrote: »

he wasn't my employer. the group organising the event hired the security. the hotel has its own security, proper nob heads

You have a terrible attitude to those employing you and paying your wages,

And don't mind me I am just trolling.

Ladjacket

the groutch wrote: »

if you don't want to do your job properly, there's 450,000 people waiting to replace you

do you really believe this?

i work in a company that has been hit hard by the recession but has still managed to keep its doors open and employ over 100 people. And I can safely say that about half of them are a disgrace. They do not appreciate anything at all and are constantly giving out and moaning about everything. Pay reductions, lack of bonuses, lack of praise etc. It is crazy.

I think that the benefits available in this country have a lot to answer for. There are not as many people now who actually appreciate their job as before.

Marty McFly

paky wrote: »

he wasn't my employer. the group organising the event hired the security. the hotel has its own security, proper nob heads

But you were working within the confines of the hotel so they would be expecting you to act to a certain standard of professionalism to help maintain the hotels image. Slouching and giving of the attitude that you appear to have you not only let the hotel down and yourself down but going by your attitude id say you were a disgrace.

Can you imagine if I was a guest at this hotel and youre within there grounds I would automatically think you were a member of there staff, and think less of the hotel for employing you had I witnessed it. Image is everything in the hospiatallity sector. Its a shame people with your attitude even have a job when there so many who would do it better not working.

mkie

paky wrote: »

he wasn't my employer. the group organising the event hired the security. the hotel has its own security, proper nob heads

yes, security are nob heads, youve made that abundently clear!

mkie

paky wrote: »

because it was a minimum wage job s

Dont expect a pay rise anytime in the future!~

RDM_83 again

First off I don't think you should be getting paid slightly better than minimum wage, I'm fairly certain there's JLC agreements in place for security guards.

2nd understand the slouching, doing stewarding during the summer I found feet actually hurt more when standing still than when walking a wee bit.

3rd not the smartest move ever

Chucky the tree

A security guard acting like a Neanderthal? I'm shocked.

luckyfrank

An electric cattle prod the the testes next time my friend if i catch you slouching you lazy paky bastard

Sincerly,
Your Boss

paky

i received notice a week prior to this that i was to be let go. i couldn't resist the opportunity when it was presented

ringadingding

paky wrote: »

i received notice a week prior to this that i was to be let go. i couldn't resist the opportunity when it was presented

Why they'd let you go is beyond me, sure it makes no sense

bbam

paky wrote: »

then told him to fcuk himself.
Was I right?

Seriously?
How could anyone think your behaviour would be OK..

You were so far off the mark, you were acting unprofessionally and then insulted the hotel manager... I'd be giving you the road !!!

You behaved and spoke like a scumbag and who would want a scumbag working for them or on their premises.

Kevwoody

paky wrote: »

i received notice a week prior to this that i was to be let go. i couldn't resist the opportunity when it was presented

Suddenly all the pieces fall into place!

beerbaron

paky wrote: »

I was doing security for an aviation avent

a what?

If you can't spell or stand up straight and have issues dealing with figures of authority - you've major problems Paky. Sounds like you're not qualified for your area of employment.

ColeTrain

paky wrote: »

i know im just so proud at what i said i just cant help telling people about it. it was so funny. he was lucky i didn't crack his fcuken head open

You remind me of this guy.

http://i2.listal.com/image/1899599/500full.jpg

Sounds like you're in the wrong business. You should be cracking heads open for a living.

superstoner90

DOWN WITH THIS SORTA THING!

wilkie2006

LOL. I don't think this thread went quite as you'd hoped, Paky...

Guill

As someone who works night shifts regularly i can say that it is no excuse. If you are due to work a night shift it is up to you to prepare yourself for that, your are paid to be there and work the full shift. A drop in work standards is not acceptable no matter what shift you are on.

If i was your manager, you would be another number out looking for a job. man up and take some pride in your work.

superstoner90

wilkie2006 wrote: »

LOL. I don't think this thread went quite as you'd hoped, Paky...

What did he expect? He hardly thought we would be saying: "Oh you showed him" , "you deserve a promoton" Ect ect.

Or perhaps he was expecting a picnic full of smiles and rainbows?

Kev.OC

RDM_83 again wrote: »

2nd understand the slouching, doing stewarding during the summer I found feet actually hurt more when standing still than when walking a wee bit.

3rd not the smartest move ever

Agree completely with this. I do bar work in a hotel, and on a busy day you could easily spend 8 or 9 hours on your feet. It's very tiring. I don't blame you for propping the wall up towards the end of a 12 hour shift. But you could've handled the interaction with the manager a bit better to be honest.

wilkie2006

wilkie2006 wrote: »

LOL. I don't think this thread went quite as you'd hoped, Paky...

superstoner90 wrote: »

What did he expect? He hardly thought we would be saying: "Oh you showed him" , "you deserve a promoton" Ect ect.

Or perhaps he was expecting a picnic full of smiles and rainbows?

Eh, actually I think he did:

paky wrote: »

i know im just so proud at what i said i just cant help telling people about it. it was so funny. he was lucky i didn't crack his fcuken head open

BTW, what's a picnic full of smiles and rainbows like? It might look nice but I'd say you'd go home hungry.

Biggins

wilkie2006 wrote: »

BTW, what's a picnic full of smiles and rainbows like?

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/301/40451534624998207372812.jpg

desertcircus

Well, nobody comes out of this one well. Seriously, though: a slouching worker? That's really an issue? I'd be inclined to avoid a company that went so far as to micromanage standing positions. Seeing a manager tell someone to stand up properly says far more that seeing someone slouching in the first place.

superstoner90

wilkie2006 wrote: »

Eh, actually I think he did:



BTW, what's a picnic full of smiles and rainbows like? It might look nice but I'd say you'd go home hungry.

WoollyRedHat

In my humble opinion, I think that any and all slouchers should be put against a wall and shot. But that's just because I'm old-fashioned ya see.

wilkie2006

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

In my humble opinion, I think that any and all slouchers should be put against a wall and shot. But that's just because I'm old-fashioned ya see.

Would he be allowed to slouch though? Even if it was a last request?

superstoner90

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

In my humble opinion, I think that any and all slouchers should be put against a wall and shot. But that's just because I'm old-fashioned ya see.

OT, But do you wear a woolly red hat indoors or on a very warm summers day?