Diesel/Petrol Prices

Mollyd90

Hi,

Is anyone interested in having a thread for diesel/petrol prices in kilkenny city? Just a log of current prices of them each week?

ft9

Great idea.

1984baby

Jones Oil (formerly Three Rivers Oil) on the comer road has one diesel pump and is always 5cent cheaper than the Topaz.

Mollyd90

1984baby wrote: »

Jones Oil (formerly Three Rivers Oil) on the comer road has one diesel pump and is always 5cent cheaper than the Topaz.

is that the place thats closed during lunch and early in the evenings?

1984baby

Yes, that's the place. I head in there in the morning. They open bout 8.30.

Benny Cake

1984baby wrote: »

Jones Oil (formerly Three Rivers Oil) on the comer road has one diesel pump and is always 5cent cheaper than the Topaz.

How much is the diesel there? Its currently 151.9 in Topaz in the Henbron.

rayc

Hennesseys in Hebron, 150.9 for diesel this morning.

Davidian_ie

http://pumps.ie/findStationsByArea.php?county=Kilkenny&zone=Select+an+area

Mollyd90

Davidian_ie wrote: »

http://pumps.ie/findStationsByArea.php?county=Kilkenny&zone=Select+an+area

that site is after improving since I last look at it about a year ago! no need for this thread so!

Davidian_ie

It's not fully up to date, just put it up because I thought someone that used one of those stations listed might like to input more up to date prices.

For those interested in what is affecting fuel prices, this article pretty much explains it.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/pricewatch/2012/0123/1224310621734.html

How our prices are compare with Europe,

http://www.aaireland.ie/AA/Motoring-advice/Petrol-Prices.aspx

Captain Havoc

Saved €50 on petrol by cycling to work a few times in January

windy bee

1.87 p/l for diesel in Switzerland !

Robbery!

Oh hang on, we will be paying that here by Summertime.

In February of 2009 diesel was 97c p/l about the same as agri diesel now.

Makes me wish I could drive a tractor to work, damn you motorway laws!

Captain Havoc

windy bee wrote: »

1.87 p/l for diesel in Switzerland !

Robbery!

Oh hang on, we will be paying that here by Summertime.

In February of 2009 diesel was 97c p/l about the same as agri diesel now.

Makes me wish I could drive a tractor to work, damn you motorway laws!

That's Swiss francs which is €1.54, Switzerland is not part of the EU.

windy bee

I still don't understand it though. The average price for diesel now is 146c right, in November of 2001 it was 73c, exactly half of today's price. Does that mean in 11 years time it will be double again as in 292c p/l.

I can see it going a lot higher before then, if the cost of manufacturing it stays the same something has to give to lower the price, BP makes billions of euros profit while people struggle to put petrol in their cars.

Maybe electric cars or cycling to work (if you live within cycling distance) are they only way to go!

windy bee

Captain Havoc wrote: »

That's Swiss francs which is €1.54, Switzerland is not part of the EU.

Ahh of course, thanks Captain I salute you!

hi5

Not a good comparison as some countries pay lower or no road tax.
Some countries have no VRT and lower vat on the initial purchase.
In the UK for instance they have no VRT, lower vat, lower road tax and fewer tolls.
France has no road tax.

Davidian_ie

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Saved €50 on petrol by cycling to work a few times in January

Go on rub it in further and tell us that the bike you used came off this scheme also http://www.biketowork.ie/

Captain Havoc

I wouldn't say petrol is a rip-off, it is how as ever becoming unaffordable for people like me who are on low wages and have to travel fairly far to work. Back to my point about it not being a rip-off, take into consideration the process of turning the sludge from the ground into petrol, the cost of transporting it and then distributing it. I went onto tesco.ie there and I found this, which at €0.85 for 500ml makes it currently more expensive than petrol.

Captain Havoc

Davidian_ie wrote: »

Go on rub it in further and tell us that the bike you used came off this scheme also http://www.biketowork.ie/

Wish I could but my job wouldn't do it, actually when they transferred me from Kilkenny to Carlow they wouldn't set up an account with Irish Rail so I could pay less for using the train.

Captain Havoc

hi5 wrote: »

Not a good comparison as some countries pay lower or no road tax.
Some countries have no VRT and lower vat on the initial purchase.
In the UK for instance they have no VRT, lower vat, lower road tax and fewer tolls.
France has no road tax.

Bumping up my post count here, there's no road tax in Ireland either.

1984baby

BP making billions, what about the government??? For every €1.50 spent on diesel/petrol, the gov take about €1.00 in taxes and VAT.....prob more than that now with the carbon tax and VAT increase.

windy bee

You are in the right ball park about tax, The AA recently published figures that showed 57.12 per cent of the pump price for petrol and 50 per cent of the price for diesel is tax.

On an average litre of petrol (say priced at €1.50) the AA say the total taxes come to 85.6 cent, and with diesel at a price of €1.45 it equals 74 cent.

Wholesalers make 6 cent on a litre and forecourt retailers about 4.5 cent. So if you put €20 of diesel in your car, about 13 litres then the forecourt garage people make 60 cent off your €20 while the Government makes €10

In short the government are creaming it on road tax, don't give a monkeys about rising oil prices, motorists are in a catch 22 as they can't afford to buy newer fuel-efficient cars so their cars are older and less efficient so their spend on fuel is even greater.

It’s the poorest motorists who suffer the most from fuel price rises. They can't take public transport if they are rural motorists

The Government can claim to have little power to lower the price of a barrel on the international stage, it can certainly ease the pain through an adjustment of its tax policies. They haven't to worry about putting diesel in their car themselves and that's the problem.

Captain Havoc

I've organised for ten of us from the cycling forum to go to the Pyrénées in the south of France this summer. I've got a friend to drive our bikes down in his van and we've budgeted for €2 a litre diesel as we're just so uncertain of how much the price could potentially rise by.

pegasus1

Yesterday it was €1.52.9 per litre for petrol at top oil in hebron..

6cent cheaper than topaz!

Davidian_ie

pegasus1 wrote: »

Yesterday it was €1.52.9 per litre for petrol at top oil in hebron..

6cent cheaper than topaz!

but have you not seen the Topaz ad on da telly where they are telling us about how much further their fuel goes compared to the competition? It's a kind of cartoon car on the advert, so maybe that is what they are basing it on.

pegasus1

Davidian_ie wrote: »

but have you not seen the Topaz ad on da telly where they are telling us about how much further their fuel goes compared to the competition? It's a kind of cartoon car on the advert, so maybe that is what they are basing it on.

Yes I know this but you mostly still get fuel from topaz that gets you the same distance as other brands... My last but one refill from top oil got me the furthest ever.... Go figure:rolleyes:... And my driving style stays the same..

up for anything

windy bee wrote: »

Maybe electric cars

Because the ESB gives electricity away?

Captain Havoc

up for anything wrote: »

Because the ESB gives electricity away?

They're claiming it costs €0.01 per km, which if I was driving to work every day would save me €43 per week as I calculate I'm spending €0.095 per km on petrol. Huge problem with them is that you couldn't drive to Dublin and back.

fabbydabby

The problem is that there is about 50 kWh in a tank of diesel, which takes 60 seconds to fill. You just can't put that kind of energy into a battery pack within a similarly short space of time - it takes hours. When they overcome this hurdle they will have the problem solved. Maybe a battery rental scheme or whatever, and you just change em over at the petrol electricity station. Or a hydrogen fuel cell....

They are *very* cheap per km alright. Still polluting though, given our sources of electricity.

BO NER

159.9 topaz tonight what will it be next week

PaulKK

fabbydabby wrote: »

They are *very* cheap per km alright. Still polluting though, given our sources of electricity.

I think that's a major problem with these hybrid/electric cars. The batteries are incredibly environmentally damaging to create, and so the actual environmental cost of creating a hybrid or electric car is very high compared to building a normal one. Plus you then have the problem of disposing of them at the end of life of the car.

Also as you said the way we produce the vast majority of our electricity is also rather messy (gas/turf/coal).

1 nuclear power plant (a thorium reactor preferably) would solve a lot of our issues for that, we could power the trains and all off it then, but due to the ignorance of the vast majority in this country we will probably never have one. Funny thing is we buy a lot of power in from the UK which is created by nuclear energy.

In my view something like bio diesel is the way forward, provided it can be produced efficiently.