Arrow [The CW] [** Spoilers **]

NuMarvel

With Moira now gone, I wonder has CW been subliminally foreshadowing a plot point with the inclusion of a brief clip of Ollie at a "Queen for Mayor" podium in the intros.

It's probably unlikely, even though it has happened in the comic series, but it would be an interesting development all the same.

Walt Grace

Wow!

Awesome episode. Great end to it (did not see that coming at all!).

Would still have preferred Sara to have died but there is still time for that!

tvnutz

Really not understanding why people want Sarah to die! I think she has been a breath of fresh air and is a really good character. laurel on the other hand...if there was anyone that was more useless it is her.

squonk

Thea and Laurel are both fairly useless at this point. I really didn't see that ending coming but I was sure that it was Thearather than Moira who would have bitten the dust. I'd have prefered Thea. There's only so much more whingy bitchiness I can take with her. Maybe she might finally turn a corner? Hopefully we'll see a harder edged Arrow now as well. Not killing his marks is all very nice and stuff but it's actually a stupid crime prevention policy. They all invariably escape and come back. It's the main thing that lets the show down for me.

Kirby

squonk wrote: »

Thea and Laurel are both fairly useless at this point. I really didn't see that ending coming but I was sure that it was Thearather than Moira who would have bitten the dust. I'd have prefered Thea. There's only so much more whingy bitchiness I can take with her. Maybe she might finally turn a corner? Hopefully we'll see a harder edged Arrow now as well. Not killing his marks is all very nice and stuff but it's actually a stupid crime prevention policy. They all invariably escape and come back. It's the main thing that lets the show down for me.

But...but....he has to let them live. "To honour his friends memory..." Because!

It makes perfect sense! You just aren't getting it. :P

Nervous Wreck

I actually don't mind Thea at all. She doesn't do much but she doesn't get in the way either. Sara is piss annoying and only because the actress is annoying. The character would be okay otherwise but she's completely ruined by that pouty goon. Laurel may as well not exist at this stage; I really hope she eats a bullet fairly soon.

CastorTroy

squonk wrote: »

Thea and Laurel are both fairly useless at this point. I really didn't see that ending coming but I was sure that it was Thearather than Moira who would have bitten the dust. I'd have prefered Thea. There's only so much more whingy bitchiness I can take with her. Maybe she might finally turn a corner? Hopefully we'll see a harder edged Arrow now as well. Not killing his marks is all very nice and stuff but it's actually a stupid crime prevention policy. They all invariably escape and come back. It's the main thing that lets the show down for me.

He does have an exception to the no killing thing. Didn't he kill Vertigo because he threatened Felicity. Same way he's willing to kill Deathstroke. If he has to, he will.

aine1980

Wow! Another great episode, didn't expect it to end the way it did, can't wait for next ep

ScrubsfanChris

Looking at the sneak preview on facebook

it looks like we might be going a few weeks forward in time as Blood has already become mayor and Lance is out of prison and back on the force.

Really looking forward to this

TheGoldenAges

Surprised there's still no sign of Malcolm Merlin yet, still top notch episode.

I liked the writers approach of going for drama over the traditional action episode that may have been expected after last week.

9/10

StaticAge11

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

Surprised there's still no sign of Malcolm Merlin yet, still top notch episode.

I liked the writers approach of going for drama over the traditional action episode that may have been expected after last week.

9/10

He is in the trailer for next weeks episode

Agent Coulson

Very good episode. All out war on the way I would say. I would be surprised if there was one or two more funerals before this season is over.

Next weeks trailer.

EoinMcLovin

Very abrupt ending but still very good episode. Plus these last three episodes all happen in the same night. Also the old friend of Sara's is

Nyssa

Kirby

Laurel : "There is too many of them! We can't fight!" :rolleyes:

What is this "we" business? And sure one of them would be enough to snap you in half.

Sometimes I wish the dialogue was better.

CastorTroy

Not forgetting she's great at keeping secrets "Ollie, we're trapped!"

Though Ollie's even letting his enemies know now anyway himself.
And since Ollie's just telling everyone, why not just tell Thea, so she may be less annoying if she sticks around.

Can't remember, but does Walter know his secret?

So what'd ye think of Summer's costume? Looks strange.

Sudden Valley

Yeah Summer Glau's mask looked terrible- probably the first time in the show that a costume has looked lousy.

Everything was good iu the episode apart from Laurel creeping round the sewers in her bright red coat. those Mirakuru goons should be deeply ashamed of themselves to let her live.

CastorTroy

I think it's common for a lot of masks that cover all but the mouth. Just look at the Batman mask. Also the fact it was so much bigger than her head.
Wonder if they tested the bandana version that Ravager wears in the comics?

stiffler123

I will watch till the end of this season and then bow out. Slade Wilson is class, but 95% of the show is just Home And Away with superheroes. The writing is terrible for the most part.

shinny

Funny, when I saw Summer's mask I thought of this...

nix

Is it just a case of me realising this now or has the acting/writing of this show always been crap or just gone to complete **** the last few episodes? (like real bad) its as if they are reading off que cards and there is no fluidness to the script.. I'm finding it hard to bother keeping up with it, Slade Wilson and summer are the only reason worth tuning in and summers character is poop

don ramo

nix wrote: »

Is it just a case of me realising this now or has the acting/writing of this show always been crap or just gone to complete **** the last few episodes? (like real bad) its as if they are reading off que cards and there is no fluidness to the script.. I'm finding it hard to bother keeping up with it, Slade Wilson and summer are the only reason worth tuning in and summers character is poop

it does tend to meander into full blown CW drama at times, but then seems to correct itself every so often, season one was so surprising because it was on the CW and had a solid story from the get go, whereas i think they are running out of steam now, the slade wilson storyline is kind of dragging on a bit, hopefully ollie will kill him in the last episode, and they get off the island also, and maybe that will be the end of slade,

GottaGetGatt

don ramo wrote: »

it does tend to meander into full blown CW drama at times, but then seems to correct itself every so often, season one was so surprising because it was on the CW and had a solid story from the get go, whereas i think they are running out of steam now, the slade wilson storyline is kind of dragging on a bit, hopefully ollie will kill him in the last episode, and they get off the island also, and maybe that will be the end of slade,

Well they will have four more years of the Island to cover.

PhiloCypher

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

Well they will have four more years of the Island to cover.

He wasn't on the island the entire 5 years he was missing.

GottaGetGatt

PhiloCypher wrote: »

He wasn't on the island the entire 5 years he was missing.

How do you know that?

somuj

He tole Diggle in a previous episode. Long time ago it was.

GottaGetGatt

somuj wrote: »

He tole Diggle in a previous episode. Long time ago it was.

Yes but looking back know wasnt that more relevant to when he was captured on the ship?I thought thats what he meant.

SherlockWatson

"After five years on a hellish island"

Is that not the intro?

StaticAge11

Does anyone else elieve the "5 years on a hellish island" bit is showing that they have 5 seasons planned? While I absolutely love the show, I would hate it to run on too long and milk it like Smallville did. 5 seasons would be a pretty good amount I think

TheGoldenAges

I think the logical step after 5 or so seasons would Stephen Amell playing the Green Arrow in the Justice League movie which is scheduled to release around the 5th season

StaticAge11

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

I think the logical step after 5 or so seasons would Stephen Amell playing the Green Arrow in the Justice League movie which is scheduled to release around the 5th season

Havent DC said there will be no crossover between TV universe and movie universe?

TheGoldenAges

StaticAge11 wrote: »

Havent DC said there will be no crossover between TV universe and movie universe?

They have which I think is ridiculous, it'd save them having to do an origin story for the Green Arrow in the JL film

SherlockWatson

Is it possible that could change depending on popularity of show in the coming years?

TheGoldenAges

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Is it possible that could change depending on popularity of show in the coming years?

Unless WB are willing to do lots of rewrites of their script I don't think it's feasible at this stage

GottaGetGatt

Maybe Stephen Amell will pull off a Mathew McConaughy by then.

don ramo

yeah but then people will be asking for flash to be in it, seeing as he will have his own show come september, and the gotham series fox just greenlit,

i still believe that ollie gets off the island, i mean how else can you explain the 100% fluent Chinese and and russian, plus the ties to the russian mafia, i hope they do the right thing and kill slade in the season finale, i liked his character but hes becoming a bit annoying at this point and there are tons of storylines the show can pursue,

GottaGetGatt

don ramo wrote: »

yeah but then people will be asking for flash to be in it, seeing as he will have his own show come september, and the gotham series fox just greenlit,

i still believe that ollie gets off the island, i mean how else can you explain the 100% fluent Chinese and and russian, plus the ties to the russian mafia, i hope they do the right thing and kill slade in the season finale, i liked his character but hes becoming a bit annoying at this point and there are tons of storylines the show can pursue,

I presume Oliver learned Russian from the cellmate who was held on the ship with him,the same guy who was with him in the sub in last weeks episode.Cant think of his name but anyway he is or has close ties to the Russian Mafia.

Shado's father is Chinese so there is no doubt that she spoke it too.Also the island is located in the South China Sea so im perhaps he met other Chinese in the following years but thats just my take on it.

Mr E

What a cracking episode last night.

Mr E

On a side note, a few people in this thread (don_ramo and PhiloCypher... *cough*) could do with updating their sigs - the Game of Thrones forum was approved 2 years ago.

EoinMcLovin

What an ending ,and from the trailer for next weeks episode it looks like

Roy is Back and finally has a mask

Mr E

Avoiding trailers because last week's one spoiled a major surprise. I should be safe in this thread though, right?

Oh....

Agent Coulson

Well now that last scene was interesting. Very good episode after a few flat ones.

shinny

Does anyone else hate the flash back scenes? They're annoying me now!

Good episode.

Side note (Mr E started this trend, haha) do any of you watch the Tomorrow people? Stephen from the Tomorrow People (Robbie Amell) and Ollie (Stephen Amell) are cousins in real life. I can see the family resemblance.

TheGoldenAges

shinny wrote: »

Side note (Mr E started this trend, haha) do any of you watch the Tomorrow people? Stephen from the Tomorrow People (Robbie Amell) and Ollie (Stephen Amell) are cousins in real life. I can see the family resemblance.

Funny someone asked Stephen Amell during his Q&A yesterday who would he want to portray Batman on Arrow and he said Robbie :P

Though he did say "He'd kill me if I said Ben Affleck!"

JP Liz V1

shinny wrote: »

Does anyone else hate the flash back scenes? They're annoying me now!

Good episode.

Side note (Mr E started this trend, haha) do any of you watch the Tomorrow people? Stephen from the Tomorrow People (Robbie Amell) and Ollie (Stephen Amell) are cousins in real life. I can see the family resemblance.

Wow really?


Anyone else think Felicity and Ollie were going to kiss

EoinMcLovin

shinny wrote: »

Does anyone else hate the flash back scenes? They're annoying me now!

Good episode.

Side note (Mr E started this trend, haha) do any of you watch the Tomorrow people? Stephen from the Tomorrow People (Robbie Amell) and Ollie (Stephen Amell) are cousins in real life. I can see the family resemblance.

When the tomorrow People was on Wednesdays after Arrow it was known as Amell Wednesday.

Sudden Valley

I think they deliberately had Oliver and felicity just hug. I would that due to the lack of fighting on Sara's part this week that'll be more involved next week and possibly be killed by Slade. Pity they got rid of Blood, he was finally getting interesting.

Pushtrak

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Anyone else think Felicity and Ollie were going to kiss

I did for a second, but really thinking on it it would have been dumb and forced.

EoinMcLovin

The Flash got picked up for a full season while Tomorrow People was cancelled

don ramo

Mr E wrote: »

On a side note, a few people in this thread (don_ramo and PhiloCypher... *cough*) could do with updating their sigs - the Game of Thrones forum was approved 2 years ago.

i have so many ad blockers that i dont think i have seen my sig since probably a month after putting it on there, and their one of the first things reinstalled after a fresh hard drove wipe :D

cracking episode, kind of sad now to see blood gone, seemed like there could have been a nice side story running there for another season or 2, always good to have 4-5 storylines to call upon,

im actually surprised that thea pulled the trigger on daddy dearest, obviously he has armor on and isnt dead, but still good to see shes capable of something,

Pushtrak

don ramo wrote: »

im actually surprised that thea pulled the trigger on daddy dearest, obviously he has armor on and isnt dead, but still good to see shes capable of something,

It's going to go a "I could have killed you so now the undertaking is null and void because I'm a killer too" route, isn't it?