Arrow [The CW] [** Spoilers **]

Kirby

Nice pun. I Dig it.

This all feels a bit Speedy

StaticAge11

I am sure we all have better jokes in our Arsenal

Bounty Hunter

StaticAge11 wrote: »

I am sure we all have better jokes in our Arsenal

without a Shado of a doubt, this is a Darhk, Darhk, day for this thread.

Mal-Adjusted

Lads, don't go having a canary

googled eyes

Opens thread, see's all the puns.

connemara man

googled eyes wrote: »

Opens thread, see's all the puns.

Arrow would ya not lighten up

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Brief_Lives

ok... quick question... what was the recent episode number... 16, right?
Spanish tv is saying 15, but i am sure i have seen it already....

McLoughlin

Brief_Lives wrote: »

ok... quick question... what was the recent episode number... 16, right?
Spanish tv is saying 15, but i am sure i have seen it already....

15 episodes have aired so far

Lithium93_

Brief_Lives wrote: »

ok... quick question... what was the recent episode number... 16, right?
Spanish tv is saying 15, but i am sure i have seen it already....

Episode 15 was the last episode that aired before the break. Episode 16 airs in the US tomorrow night.

Brief_Lives

Thanks lads...

CastorTroy

15 was the last episode and 16 airs in the States tomorrow night

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Comic book shows need to stop toying with my emotions...

I've never been invested in the romantic endeavours of the characters in any of the Arrow-verse shows, but Olicity are breaking my heart this week!

ixoy

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

I've never been invested in the romantic endeavours of the characters in any of the Arrow-verse shows, but Olicity are breaking my heart this week!

I'm having a hard time liking Felicity in this. I'm surprised Thea isn't taking her to task on actually understanding couples have to accept each other's flaws too.

Valentine was fun but the court room drama bit was a bit dull. Did Darkh say a single word this episode?

CastorTroy

Did laugh when Felicity said Ollie spent 5 years on that island alone, yet I think he's probably met more people on that island than he's met since coming back

Kirby

"I spent 5 years alone on a hellish island..... except when I left to go to Hong Kong.....and that time I came home to creepily stalk my family.....And of course the Island was filled with thousands of people.....and I could have left any time I wanted......but apart from all that I spent 5 years alone on an island!"

:P

Mitch Connor

ixoy wrote: »

I'm having a hard time liking Felicity in this. I'm surprised Thea isn't taking her to task on actually understanding couples have to accept each other's flaws too.

Valentine was fun but the court room drama bit was a bit dull. Did Darkh say a single word this episode?

agreed - Felicity is in the wrong on this. It isn't a danger Oli was keeping from her.

His choice was lie to Felicity and see his kid, or never see his kid. He, as Thea told him, made the right call, the only call he could make. For Felicity to punish him over it is cruel.

Kirby

Mitch Connor wrote: »

agreed - Felicity is in the wrong on this. It isn't a danger Oli was keeping from her.

His choice was lie to Felicity and see his kid, or never see his kid. He, as Thea told him, made the right call, the only call he could make. For Felicity to punish him over it is cruel.

No he didn't. Not in my mind. The woman you shagged once and barely know imposes a ridiculous demand on you. You nod and smile and say "Absolutely. I'll tell nobody!"

You then go home and tell the love of your life everything and say "Keep it to yourself Felicity."

Frankly it was an unrealistically stupid decision that was written in for dramas sake. He's lied to her again and again and this one wasn't even necessary. If my partner was this dishonest so much I wouldn't hang around either. She would be gone.

Mitch Connor

Kirby wrote: »

No he didn't. Not in my mind. The woman you shagged once and barely know imposes a ridiculous demand on you. You nod and smile and say "Absolutely. I'll tell nobody!"

You then go home and tell the love of your life everything and say "Keep it to yourself Felicity."

Frankly it was an unrealistically stupid decision that was written in for dramas sake.

Fair enough, its an argument, but having given his word to the mother that he would abide by her demand, I would have thought it odd had he immediately told Felicity. Thea only knew because she followed the money trail. Also, he didn't just smile and go along with it immediately - it was something he wrestled with. I thought they also explained why the mother wanted no one to know and why Oli/Thea understood her stance quite well - so in the logic presented in the show, I think Oli's actions are understandable and Felicity has been unreasonable and cold regarding it.

Lithium93_

Well ****'s gonna hit the fan next week.

Potential-Monke

I had completely forgotten Emily Kinney was in The Flash last year, so i was totally confused by the start of it. But, that quickly passed when i knew i was going to be looking at Emily Kinney for the next 40 odd minutes!

Anyway, overall a good episode. Nice set up for next week! And at least the ending confirmed that they weren't going to replace Felicity with yer man, as it hinted towards that throughout!

One fairly big niggle though. When Canary screamed the bees out of Arrow (now that's my first time saying anything like that!), glass panels shattered, but the monitors on the Star Labs 8000, or whatever it was, didn't shatter, even though they were directly in the path of the shockwaves!

ixoy

Enjoyable episode and one of the funnier ones that they've done recently, with Captain Lance getting a few good lines: "Can anybody just walk in now"? "Yep, this is my life now".

Curtis worked well and I can see a few more guest appearances but it would have been too easy to slot him repeatedly. Is it possible that Curtis is the one in the grave (though I'm thinking Felcitiy's mum)? Felicity would feel responsible for that too.

CastorTroy

Didn't realise Curtis was so agile the way he did a flip over the table. Next thing you know he'll be jumping from the roof of buildings with the rest of them.

Gotta love how easily Brie confused the prison system as if no one knew who she was. Even looking at her record they should've realised a murderer wasn't eligible for release after about a year

deafroadrunner

CastorTroy wrote: »

Didn't realise Curtis was so agile the way he did a flip over the table. Next thing you know he'll be jumping from the roof of buildings with the rest of them.

Gotta love how easily Brie confused the prison system as if no one knew who she was. Even looking at her record they should've realised a murderer wasn't eligible for release after about a year

Considering her computer skills should she of been even allowed computer time

CastorTroy

Yeah that kinda threw me as well. Usually hackers are banned from using computers.

Farty88

The whole season setting up laurel to die next week. she's getting loads of screen time loads of advice to people if you look back throughout the season it's been more air time for laurel plus the episode after next week is not official yet but rumours are saying the title of the episode will be the canarys cry. so quietly pointing towards the Lance family I'd say (hopefully not detective Lance)

crazyderk

Farty88 wrote: »

The whole season setting up laurel to die next week. she's getting loads of screen time loads of advice to people if you look back throughout the season it's been more air time for laurel plus the episode after next week is not official yet but rumours are saying the title of the episode will be the canarys cry. so quietly pointing towards the Lance family I'd say (hopefully not detective Lance)

I hope that's a theory and not a spoiler

Farty88

"Eleven-Fifty-Nine" the end of an era one minute to midnight so many possible characters but only one will die check out the new trailer and judge for yourself.

Patty O Furniture

While watching it on sky, afaik 2ep behind, i've tried to figure out what happened to Felicity, i haven't seen it explained why she's in the wheelchair, was it to with the devious Damien Darkhh?

Thanks.

James74

Kirby wrote: »

No he didn't. Not in my mind. The woman you shagged once and barely know imposes a ridiculous demand on you. You nod and smile and say "Absolutely. I'll tell nobody!"

You then go home and tell the love of your life everything and say "Keep it to yourself Felicity."

Frankly it was an unrealistically stupid decision that was written in for dramas sake. He's lied to her again and again and this one wasn't even necessary. If my partner was this dishonest so much I wouldn't hang around either. She would be gone.

As much as the whole Felicity story line is just a pain at the minute, you have to give him a wee bit of leeway since (as far as Oliver knew) telling Felicity about the son was going to lead to yer beardy man from Legends taking over the world.... so he did have that wee dilemma.
In fact why doesn't he just tell Felicity to pick up the phone to Star Labs and have a quick word with Barry. Problem solved...

Felicity: "Hi Flash."
Flash: "Um, yeah, hi Felicity... listen, if Oliver told you about the nipper everyone you know dies and like Armageddon and stuff so like maybe lay the feck off the guilt trip downer vibe, 'kay, bye."

EoinMcLovin

Patty O Furniture wrote: »

While watching it on sky, afaik 2ep behind, i've tried to figure out what happened to Felicity, i haven't seen it explained why she's in the wheelchair, was it to with the devious Damien Darkhh?

Thanks.

After Oliver proposed to her they got ambushed by the ghosts who shot at their limo with felicity getting hit by some of the bullets.

Farty88

Look closely at the new trailer for tomorrow nites arrow. it doesn't show a certain character and it really covers up what's going to happen. Like you least expect it sort of a way on who's gonna die ign have already seen the episode and have said it's one of the best episodes in a long time it's both gritty and heartbreaking. Really can't wait now for tomorrow's episode so tell me who do you think is on the chopping block for tomorrow night

EoinMcLovin

Farty88 wrote: »

Look closely at the new trailer for tomorrow nites arrow. it doesn't show a certain character and it really covers up what's going to happen. Like you least expect it sort of a way on who's gonna die ign have already seen the episode and have said it's one of the best episodes in a long time it's both gritty and heartbreaking. Really can't wait now for tomorrow's episode so tell me who do you think is on the chopping block for tomorrow night

Well I will say one thing, avoid the Arrow subreddit as there are a few threads that actually show a leak from when they were filming the grave scene recently. It could be true and Guggenheim also commented on paparazzi spoiling stuff in a recent interview but part of me is thinking that the leak isn't actually a leak but more the producers trolling people.

Farty88

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Well I will say one thing, avoid the Arrow subreddit as there are a few threads that actually show a leak from when they were filming the grave scene recently. It could be true and Guggenheim also commented on paparazzi spoiling stuff in a recent interview but part of me is thinking that the leak isn't actually a leak but more the producers trolling people.

True that seamly a April fools prank but if it's true be one hell of a sucker punch to the show in regards to staying true with the comics roll on tonight

EoinMcLovin

Farty88 wrote: »

True that seamly a April fools prank but if it's true be one hell of a sucker punch to the show in regards to staying true with the comics roll on tonight

Can't wait to read the comments online after the episode airs but there is one thing about the ArrowVerse. With time travel and multiple universes if somebody dies in Arrow or Flash, they could always bring them back as their alternate universe counterpart.

Mr E

So that happened ..... yikes.

Great episode and great acting by all at the end.

EoinMcLovin

Mr E wrote: »

So that happened ..... yikes.

Great episode and great acting by all at the end.

Yeah it was a good episode and very ballsy of the writers to do but the fan reaction has been completely negative especially on the Arrow subreddit which has some hilarious threads and memes.
No new episode for 3 weeks so plenty of time to recover from what happened.

martingriff

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Yeah it was a good episode and very ballsy of the writers to do but the fan reaction has been completely negative especially on the Arrow subreddit which has some hilarious threads and memes.
No new episode for 3 weeks so plenty of time to recover from what happened.

She has an episode on The Flash coming up as Earth 2 Black Canary(Siren) So she could be crossing to a new show. I wonder are they triming down the team or will Sara be coming back. Though I say she be 1 of 2 to stay definetly on Legends

Agent Coulson

That was the right one it's probably a season or two late but for sure the right one to be killed off.

Bounty Hunter

strangely She had actually become a much better / less annoying character the last season or two, still though not being a fanboy of the comic I have no issue with her going though it was a little strange how she seemed to be fine, said goodbye to Ollie essentially then died

EoinMcLovin

martingriff wrote: »

She has an episode on The Flash coming up as Earth 2 Black Canary(Siren) So she could be crossing to a new show. I wonder are they triming down the team or will Sara be coming back. Though I say she be 1 of 2 to stay definetly on Legends

There are plans for Earth 2 Laurel to meet Earth 1 Oliver probably next season. I can't see them make another show as 3 is enough.
That's the thing with characters being killed off on one of the shows, they can just be brought back as different people like Ronnie coming back as Deathstorm and Earth 2 Wells.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

That was the right one it's probably a season or two late but for sure the right one to be killed off.

It's funny if you asked people this in season 2, most would agree but now alot of people , especially on reddit are saying that they are done with the show because of this

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

strangely She had actually become a much better / less annoying character the last season or two, still though not being a fanboy of the comic I have no issue with her going though it was a little strange how she seemed to be fine, said goodbye to Ollie essentially then died

I thought they were talking about faking her death but Guggenheim has stated that her death was not faked and is permanent

martingriff

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

There are plans for Earth 2 Laurel to meet Earth 1 Oliver probably next season. I can't see them make another show as 3 is enough
That's the thing with characters being killed off on one of the shows, they can just be brought back as different people like Ronnie coming back as Deathstorm and Earth 2 Wells..

Did not know that. Ronnie was killed also as Deathstorm do not forget. Wells they could not keep off he is just great as that character like Merlin in Arrow

It's funny if you asked people this in season 2, most would agree but now alot of people , especially on reddit are saying that they are done with the show because of this.

Ya she was not the greatest of characters but she has been fleshed out a bit plus the whole Olicity thing has probably helped in wanting to like a character but fo me this season Thea seems to be getting the push and the gravely voice.

I thought they were talking about faking her death but Guggenheim has stated that her death was not faked and is permanent

Earth 2 or they could say they did it due to her safety due to Dark. It looks like Diggle well be going off the deep end maybe he will be in the gave also as I feel he is the weakest at the moment

EoinMcLovin

One of the memes on reddit at the moment

martingriff

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

One of the memes on reddit at the moment

The thing is I say 90%+ who say thats its I am gone will still be on the reddit next year watching the show

EoinMcLovin

martingriff wrote: »

The thing is I say 90%+ who say thats its I am gone will still be on the reddit next year watching the show

Yep , most of these people would have been the same people who last year said to get rid of Laurel and now are saying to get rid of Felicity instead

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I've really liked Katie Cassidy as an actor in some of the shows she was in prior to Arrow (namely Supernatural & Harper's Island), but for the first two and a half seasons of Arrow, I just never warmed to Laurel. I've liked her a lot more over the past season or so, but still thought she was the most expendable member of the cast, so pretty happy with the decision to kill her off. She'll still be back for guest appearances in The Flash and probably Legends of Tomorrow anyway.

McLoughlin

The secret talk with Laurel and Oliver just before her death means there is something not quite right with her death

RobbingBandit

The significance of the view outside the window of the room will be important.

Who was looking in at the scene?

ixoy

McLoughlin wrote: »

The secret talk with Laurel and Oliver just before her death means there is something not quite right with her death

This. That secret talk meant something and I'm not convinced Laurel is gone from the show.
We can be fairly sure Barry's not going to bring her back (after the latest Flash) and the Lazarus Pit is gone but maybe the idol will play into this somehow - there's a game there with Laurel's death being resurrected eventually. I suspect that there may be someone else in the grave.

Also: Can we have it so that teaser trailers are in spoilers as well as anything about upcoming episodes? I deliberately avoid them and it's very annoying to stumble across them without any warning. I infer "Spoilers" to only include up to the most recently aired episode.