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Arrow [The CW] [** Spoilers **]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    Last season I was very much I could just stop watching now.

    This season, I'm not far off that still. Some nice action but it's feeling a bit jaded to me, return to an earlier Arrow but nothing screaming yet that I have to keep watching. Early days though so I'll give it a bit longer to shape up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,553 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    They said that this is the last season of flashbacks (in their current form anyway)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 lauracleary


    Must Start Watching this I'm clearly missing a lot :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,382 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Thought the guy attacked at the end was crooked from the way he looked at Ollie near the beginning.

    The whole thing with Church holding the hostages was strange. Ollie managed to get away, have a bit of a shoot out just above the hostages, leave the building, go recruiting and get back without Church even noticing? Or are we to think he didn't care?

    Bit of a strange payoff with Ollie's promise to Laurel. It's like they filmed that scene then just decided later what she actually said.

    Any thoughts as to who the other potential team members in the screens were?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    Was wondering about Church myself until he mentioned Bludhaven... Nightwing intro anyone??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    CastorTroy wrote: »

    Any thoughts as to who the other potential team members in the screens were?

    From casting news I know that the person with the goggles is
    Vigilante
    and from promos the new team members are
    Mad Dog, Artemis (Black Canary copycat from last season), Mister Terrific
    at first and then
    Ragman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,012 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I found this weeks episode very average and weak even for Arrow.

    Ragman was good I will say.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Cody Rhodes
    to appear in next weeks episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    I found this weeks episode very average and weak even for Arrow.

    Definitely not as promising as the season premiere, but this episode really served to re-establish a status quo and get Oliver in the right headspace to take on a new team and set everything in motion, which I think it managed to pull off and still keeps me hopeful for the season as a whole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,382 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Thought the team was formed too quickly. We've only glimpsed Wild Dog before now and mini Canary was in 1 episode where she wasn't the best. I know they did their research beforhand but to viewers it's very sudden. Look how long it took each of the original team members to join up


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    From casting news I know that the person with the goggles is
    Vigilante
    and from promos the new team members are
    Mad Dog, Artemis (Black Canary copycat from last season), Mister Terrific
    at first and then
    Ragman
    I don't think she will become the black canary that will either be earth 2 Laurel or if Sara has her way the earth 1 Laurel and before anyone panics it will NOT BE FELICITY


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Thought the team was formed too quickly. We've only glimpsed Wild Dog before now and mini Canary was in 1 episode where she wasn't the best. I know they did their research beforhand but to viewers it's very sudden. Look how long it took each of the original team members to join up


    I it was a bit quick expected maybe 1 in episode like
    Mr Terrific
    or
    Ragman
    due to how he was in the episode
    but not Wild Dog been mad due to the arrow in the leg business or the other one forgot her name
    Hope they have different costimes and not wear the costumes in the lair.
    What will Curtis wear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    How long does it take to heal a leg after an arrow goes through it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Monotype wrote: »
    How long does it take to heal a leg after an arrow goes through it?

    Going by show logic, just a week apparently :pac:

    In real life, well that's anyone's guess really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Going by show logic, just a week apparently :pac:

    In real life, well that's anyone's guess really.

    Well he did say put ice and keep it up so maybe it was not as bad as a full arrow into the leg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,553 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    At least he didn't get an arrow in the knee, we'd never hear the end of it.

    A middle of the road episode, but moves things along nicely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Mr E wrote: »
    They said that this is the last season of flashbacks (in their current form anyway)

    Best news ever.
    Taltos wrote: »
    Was wondering about Church myself until he mentioned Bludhaven... Nightwing intro anyone??

    Nah, they've been namechecking Bludhaven since season one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Oh man!
    He is gonna get wrecked!!!
    :eek:

    Having Cutty from the Wire as a baddie really works. That guy is just so intimidating!!!:eek:



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Much better episode this week although it did have me asking myself 2 questions

    1) like with Laurel back when she was terrible at fighting, why is "Mr Terrific" on the team? he really isn't that good at being a Vigilante.

    I guess you could say the same for Artemis but she at least follows orders and hasn't been shown to be screwing up unlike the others... Ragman is leagues above the others as an asset.

    2) When exactly did Felicity become a biatch who just gives people sh!t over their decisions (ok I know people have felt this way for ages but its something the writers just keep doing).

    In general though it was a better episode as said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,382 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I vote they leave Wild Dog there.

    And we had to believe Thea learned her skills over a few months and she was trained one to one by Malcolm. Now we're expected to believe Artemis is now trained enough with a bow and arrow to use it in the field even though we've never seen her even look at a bow before now. Of course now she just carries the bow and doesn't actually use it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Mr E wrote: »
    They said that this is the last season of flashbacks (in their current form anyway)

    They will time jump at the end of this season. I'm almost positive. A "Four years later" type of thing will happen. This will give them new flashback storylines to go through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,382 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    End of this season will be Ollie saying "We have to go back to the island!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Kirby wrote: »
    They will time jump at the end of this season. I'm almost positive. A "Four years later" type of thing will happen. This will give them new flashback storylines to go through.

    Remember to come back to this later. Could be spot on. It would also help Flash get to the point in the newspaper article he sees in season one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    Casting News
    Lexa Doig to play Talia Al Ghul
    in recurring role


    Tvline


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,012 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Really cool guest hero this week.


    It reminded me how much I loved Human Target and what a great little show that was just a pity it wasn't Mark Valley's version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    Any chance Billy Malone is
    Billy Wintergreen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    I really hate the way all the police extras end up dead seriously is there any police force left in the city and why would you want a job as one ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    *admits*
    they had me for a bit with Oliver being killed.. I had.. momentary.. feels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Oliver mentioned felicity being shot in the shoulder. when did that happen cause i have no memory of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    sky88 wrote: »
    Oliver mentioned felicity being shot in the shoulder. when did that happen cause i have no memory of it.

    It was in Season 2 when she took a bullet for Sara when they were up against the Clock King


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    It was in Season 2 when she took a bullet for Sara when they were up against the Clock King

    no memory of that, i only vaguely remember clock king as a villain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    sky88 wrote: »
    no memory of that, i only vaguely remember clock king as a villain

    https://youtu.be/0Hmgq_UL7YA?t=2m57s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,382 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Well that's a very high functioning alcoholic. I doubt it's the case though.

    Thought Artemis was going to have a blood sample to analyse, but I guess she lost her sword on the train. At least she finally spoke more than a few words and fired arrows.

    Wonder how long Ollie was holding on to the parachute arrow, however he stored it in his quiver.

    And why didn't Constantine sound like Ivan Drago?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    That was a cool reveal all the same! :)
    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Well that's a very high functioning alcoholic. I doubt it's the case though.
    Agree. I think it's he must have been playing them.. us?.. all along.

    But! Is he working for/with a baddie again?!?
    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Thought Artemis was going to have a blood sample to analyse, but I guess she lost her sword on the train. At least she finally spoke more than a few words and fired arrows.
    In fairness, they feel like they've needed to give us 5 years of backstory to get Oliver to his level
    :D
    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Wonder how long Ollie was holding on to the parachute arrow, however he stored it in his quiver.
    I thought that was cool but also spent some time thinking about how it didn't seem unrealistic these days
    :eek:
    CastorTroy wrote: »
    And why didn't Constantine sound like Ivan Drago?
    Ah, I think that might spoil it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Really loved that - it was a great 100th episode and used the crossover to its advantage really well.

    Good to get former cast members back in some capacity and I thought it was good to focus mainly on Arrow characters (I guess in the case of Sara and Ray, Legends characters that got their start on Arrow) and to give Flash and Supergirl a bit of a back seat for the episode - presumably everyone will be back together again for Legends anyway.

    I also really loved the Malcolm and Thea talking about Tommy Merlyn off in Chicago training to be a doctor, which was a nice little easter egg as Colin Donnell now plays a surgeon on Chicago Med.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,481 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Really liked the talk between Oli and Thea - a great moment in the show, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


    I also really loved the Malcolm and Thea talking about Tommy Merlyn off in Chicago training to be a doctor, which was a nice little easter egg as Colin Donnell now plays a surgeon on Chicago Med.

    i read that Colin Donnell was quite surprised to see his Arrowverse alter ego on the show last night as neither he or Colton Haynes (Arsenal/Roy Harper )were available for filming due to other commitments, yet both appeared in that scene just as
    Oliver was about to step through the portal in the Smoak Technology building and escape the Dominator stasis pods
    I guess they must have constructed CGI versions of Tommy and Roy from samples of older footage and older voice samples. Quite impressive bit of trickery, I thought the really were there same as the others.
    That last moment with Laurel on the porch, in her wedding dress, was one of the most poignant moments on the show so far, very emotional, (
    even though it wasn't really Laurel.
    and is only surpassed by "Eleven-Fifty-Nine" IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    Arrow In Space.

    Jaysus I never ever expected that when the show started.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,012 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Well you learn something new every day I just found out that Katie Cassidy is the daughter of David Cassidy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Well you learn something new every day I just found out that Katie Cassidy is the daughter of David Cassidy.

    after googling both, I also just learned that was Arrows 100th episode:
    http://www.cinemablend.com/television/1592220/why-arrow-brought-back-laurel-for-its-100th-episode


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,481 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    HOLY ****ING HELL.

    thats a mid-season finale, flash, take notes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    I was surprised but not really surprised at Laurels return her death seemed funny as if it was being faked so she could go undercover or some such.

    Hopefully it isn't a ghost or alien clone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Very enjoyable episode - a lot of emotional stuff going on.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    Hopefully it isn't a ghost or alien clone
    Or a meta or from one of the alternate earths or a consequence of Flashpoint / Savitar.. The possibilities are many every Wednesday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Or the ending was possibly a hallucination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Good, strong episode with 2 massive events happening.. That's a mid season finale, as was pointed out above..


    Oliver getting his ass kicked, isn't something you expect from a, possible Rasalghul (typing on ohobe)... Or the Green Arrow..


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    ixoy wrote: »
    Or a meta or from one of the alternate earths or a consequence of Flashpoint / Savitar.. The possibilities are many every Wednesday.

    could be Earth 2 Dinah. Or a hallucination. How are they going to explain her going between shows as a regular on all shows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,553 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Anyone else say "WHAT?" out loud at the end? Yikes... :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    That was an absolute rollercoaster!

    It was like an average Arrow episode feel

    Then Feels :(

    Then ABSOLUTELY ALL THE FEELS THEY COULD CRAM INTO MY BRAIN :(:(:(

    Then like WHAAAAATTTT?!?!?!?! BUT
    WOOOO YEY! LAUREL!!!
    But also WHATTTTSS GOING ON!!! :)

    Anyway... Good TV that!


  • Posts: 8,385 [Deleted User]


    could be Earth 2 Dinah. Or a hallucination. How are they going to explain her going between shows as a regular on all shows

    Could be linked to Flash and Legends?
    Savitar has Cisco seeing Dante and Mick is seeing Snart


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