Arrow [The CW] [** Spoilers **]

EoinMcLovin

Green Arrow costume for the final season

Mr E

SDCC trailer. It's like a greatest hits from all seasons, very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrviapP5uY

B.A._Baracus

The big question about the last season...

Will will see Oliver die ?

EoinMcLovin

Everything learned from Comic Con Panel

https://www.reddit.com/r/arrow/comments/cfxleq/spoilers_everything_we_learned_about_season_8/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

-The crossover is in episode 8, which means that 'Arrow' gets to have its own independent finale.

-This season is a lot more episodic...the episodes leading up to the crossover are like self-contained mini-movies.

-Amell will play multiple versions of Oliver in COIE.

-A LOT of Oliver and Diggle this season.

-Season 8 will be a bit like a 'buddy cop' movie between Oliver and...someone, but not the Monitor.

-We'll see Rene like we've "never seen him before" in the premiere. Also we get to see the start of his political career, and a rift with Zoe.

-Dinah's still the SCPD Captain and trying to figure out how the team goes on without Oliver.

-We get to see a "new version of Laurel", whatever that means!

-There's a lot more story to be told with Diggle, in the present-day and with his kids in the future. Also, the possibility of David Ramsey getting a power ring still exists...

-Katie Cassidy will direct episode 3.

-Sussana Thompson is back for the premiere (we already kinda knew that, but now its official).

-We see Oliver doing the salmon ladder in the premiere.

-There are a LOT of familiar faces returning, beyond what we already know.

-The season is a tribute and a love letter to the history of the show, and a lot of iconic moments get referenced.

Agent Coulson

CW version of Birds of Prey maybe.

Arrow spinoff

The CW Sets ‘Arrow’ Spinoff Starring Katherine McNamara, Katie Cassidy & Juliana Harkavy As Backdoor Pilot

The CW is moving forward with another Arrow spinoff headlined by Katherine McNamara, Katie Cassidy and Juliana Harkavy reprising their Arrow roles in the new superhero series.

The new offshoot, which was teased at TCA by the CW boss Mark Pedowitz, will center around Mia Smoak, known as Green Arrow, and the Canaries Laurel Lance and Dinah Drake.

The project, which comes from Berlanti Productions and Warner Bros Television, is being set up as a backdoor pilot that will air as episode from the upcoming eighth and final season of Arrow. It will be written by Beth Schwartz, Marc Guggenheim, Jill Blankenship and Oscar Balderrama.

The CW’s The Flash also originally was developed as an Arrow planted spinoff before a decision was made to turn it into a standalone pilot.

https://deadline.com/2019/09/the-cw-sets-arrow-mia-smoak-spin-off-katherine-mcnamara-katie-cassidy-and-juliana-harkavy-1202743492/

EoinMcLovin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9YqIqkcN4

CastorTroy

"We don't want Amanda Waller or Deadshot in the tv shows because it'll confuse people watching the movie"
"Let's make a tv series with the exact same name as an upcoming DC movie"

EoinMcLovin

CastorTroy wrote: »

"We don't want Amanda Waller or Deadshot in the tv shows because it'll confuse people watching the movie"
"Let's make a tv series with the exact same name as an upcoming DC movie"

Yeah I don’t see them using Birds of Prey especially with the movie coming out. It will probably have Canary in the name somehow seeing as there is two canaries. Can’t see them having a show where Dinah and Laurel will have old people makeup the whole time. Unless it’s showing the setting up of the Canary network as flashbacks with it being set in the future with Mia and having old Laurel and Dinah show up the odd time with both of them showing up more in the flashbacks.

sky88

didnt watch most of the last part of arrow was Laurel in the flashforwards? i know dinah was.

Maybe im guessing somehow oliver with the monitor makes a deal to send his daughter back in time to save the future to avoid old person make up which wasnt much for dinah when i seen it

EoinMcLovin

sky88 wrote: »

didnt watch most of the last part of arrow was Laurel in the flashforwards? i know dinah was.

Maybe im guessing somehow oliver with the monitor makes a deal to send his daughter back in time to save the future to avoid old person make up which wasnt much for dinah when i seen it

She showed up for like 2 minutes

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EoinMcLovin

Good episode and looks like they are going all out for Crisis

CastorTroy

As has been pointed out, that ending

Means popular Flash characters are likely dead, unless they were able to slide. Harry Wells and Jesse Quick.
I know it had to be done somehow, but was very Avengers snap like.

Also someone was saying that Earth 2 is a lot different from the one we've seen on The Flash

EoinMcLovin

CastorTroy wrote: »

As has been pointed out, that ending

Means popular Flash characters are likely dead, unless they were able to slide. Harry Wells and Jesse Quick.
I know it had to be done somehow, but was very Avengers snap like.

Also someone was saying that Earth 2 is a lot different from the one we've seen on The Flash

Yeah

Starling city in Earth 2 looks a lot different compared to Central City which looks a lot like how Earth 3 Central City. Another thing, wasn’t Robert Queen the Green Arrow in Earth 2

CastorTroy

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Yeah

Starling city in Earth 2 looks a lot different compared to Central City which looks a lot like how Earth 3 Central City. Another thing, wasn’t Robert Queen the Green Arrow in Earth 2

That's just it. They had already built alternate storylines for Earth 2. And what was the Monitor's plan. Like he wanted the dwarf star yet didn't turn up to get Ollie when he got hat he wanted?

EoinMcLovin

CastorTroy wrote: »

That's just it. They had already built alternate storylines for Earth 2. And what was the Monitor's plan. Like he wanted the dwarf star yet didn't turn up to get Ollie when he got hat he wanted?

Guggenheim tweeted that multiple people wore the hood on Earth 1, so what’s to say Earth 2 wasn’t the same. Robert could have been the hood, got arrested (as mentioned in Flash Season 2), died and Chase became the new Hood. In relation to the monitor, he probably knew the anti matter wave was coming so decided to leave Oliver to his own devices knowing that he had a way out. I’m assuming he is using Oliver to get items like dwarf star that will be needed for the Crisis. Thing is, doesn’t Ray have a huge supply of dwarf star from when the Legends were in Ancient Japan and found a huge supply of it.

pah

Good episode.
Visiting a different earth every episode until the crossover could be great fun.

ixoy

The alternative earth bits are good but I can't be alone in finding the 2040 segments very boring.

EoinMcLovin

pah wrote: »

Good episode.
Visiting a different earth every episode until the crossover could be great fun.

They have confirmed that this will be the only time they will visit another Earth. Most of the season will have Oliver travelling to places he was before like Hong Kong and Russia. He will hardly be in Star City

https://tvline.com/2019/10/16/the-flash-earth-two-destroyed-arrow-season-8-premiere/

pah

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

They have confirmed that this will be the only time they will visit another Earth. Most of the season will have Oliver travelling to places he was before like Hong Kong and Russia. He will hardly be in Star City

https://tvline.com/2019/10/16/the-flash-earth-two-destroyed-arrow-season-8-premiere/

Meh

TonyD79

ixoy wrote: »

The alternative earth bits are good but I can't be alone in finding the 2040 segments very boring.

Found them awful last season, thought the first episode was very good bar those flash forwards. They are like short web episodes that are only for hardcore fans to watch away from the show.

RobbingBandit

2040 stuff is stupid JJ as that character makes no sense he should have been a yellow red or orange guy not someone he has nothing to do with. His dad definitely didn't have any origin with who he is so just plain stupid.

RobbingBandit

Loved the mask on lian yu

CastorTroy

The future parts are basically just padding out the season with a drawn out pilot for the spinoff.
That and making sure we all know the Crisis doesn't change anything.

So did Cisco just happen to share all information about parallel earths and breaching tech with the world?

martingriff

CastorTroy wrote: »

The future parts are basically just padding out the season with a drawn out pilot for the spinoff.
That and making sure we all know the Crisis doesn't change anything.

So did Cisco just happen to share all information about parallel earths and breaching tech with the world?

I say Mia will be in the present for the spin off either Zoe or William will die starting a redemption arc from next episode but they must do something quick as she is not doing well yet. Hopefully Laurel is the main in the spin off then Mia as id Dinah is like last year she will be terrible

CastorTroy

Going by the title of the spinoff, there's a good chance she'll be the main character.
And seems even though there are only 10 episodes in the final season, 1 of those episodes will be wasted on

a backdoor pilot
https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/10/22/green-arrow-and-the-canaries-backdoor-pilot-begins-production/

martingriff

CastorTroy wrote: »

Going by the title of the spinoff, there's a good chance she'll be the main character.
And seems even though there are only 10 episodes in the final season, 1 of those episodes will be wasted on

a backdoor pilot
https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/10/22/green-arrow-and-the-canaries-backdoor-pilot-begins-production/

That is episode 9 I think so after crisis and Oliver will be gone so we will have to see

Brief_Lives

I haven´t watched Arrow since an island blew up, what was that, season 6 finale?
I saw Arrow season 8, episode 1 on the syfy channel last night, so I watched it... It was pretty good.... I was totally lost, but it was pretty good...

Agent Coulson

I am enjoying Oliver's long goodbye to former casts members.

Lexa Doig & Willa Holland looking well in their guest spots this week.


No interest in the kids story at all though the ending this week might change that a bit.

Lithium93_

Brief_Lives wrote: »

I haven´t watched Arrow since an island blew up, what was that, season 6 finale?
I saw Arrow season 8, episode 1 on the syfy channel last night, so I watched it... It was pretty good.... I was totally lost, but it was pretty good...

Just try and find a way to watch last years Elseworlds crossover, that'll get you up to speed with this season's events.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I am enjoying Oliver's long goodbye to former casts members.

Lexa Doig & Willa Holland looking well in their guest spots this week.


No interest in the kids story at all though the ending this week might change that a bit.

I didn't expect that ending at all, like you said no interest, but damn.

Any ideas when Supergirl and Batwoman will start their build towards Crisis, or is it The Flash and Arrow doing the majority of the heavy lifting in terms of set up?

CastorTroy

Hopefully it just stays with Flash and Arrow since I watch those.

As for this week's episode

Well they made the flash forwards relevant.

Even with scars, Talia and Thea are easy on the eye.
I couldn't tell you who Athena was. Don't remember her.

Is Bronze Tiger dead. The way John said Connor's father would be proud of him made it sound like he is, but last I remember seeing him was saving Diggle in the prison, but was sure he survived

EoinMcLovin

CastorTroy wrote: »

Hopefully it just stays with Flash and Arrow since I watch those.

As for this week's episode

Well they made the flash forwards relevant.

Even with scars, Talia and Thea are easy on the eye.
I couldn't tell you who Athena was. Don't remember her.

Is Bronze Tiger dead. The way John said Connor's father would be proud of him made it sound like he is, but last I remember seeing him was saving Diggle in the prison, but was sure he survived

Lyla said he was on a deep cover op. Athena is part of the Thanatos Guild which was set up by Malcolm to find more Lazarus Pits after Nyssa destroyed the one in Nanda Parbat. Malcolm hid the locations in a map that needed Thea's blood to unlock it. This led to Thea and Roy leaving with Nyssa to destroy them all.

EoinMcLovin

Stephen Amell has announced that

Emily Beth Rickards (Felicity)

will be returning for the final episode

Mr E

After last week's cliffhanger, this was the first week this season where I wanted to watch Arrow before Flash. Great episode too.

Lithium93_

Mr E wrote: »

After last week's cliffhanger, this was the first week this season where I wanted to watch Arrow before Flash. Great episode too.

The shortened final season is really working, 4 excellent episodes so far.

CastorTroy

Seeing young Zoe made me wonder did she move out somewhere sunny for the 21 years in between?

And the kids clearly aren't worried about McFlying themselves from existence.
John doesn't seem too curious about how he ends up with Connor.

EoinMcLovin

Filming has wrapped on the final episode.

EoinMcLovin

Spinoff show is confirmed to be set in 2040

martingriff

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Spinoff show is confirmed to be set in 2040

I would rather it in the present as was not in to the flash forwards. I suppose with Crisis they can change it anyway they want. Mia specifically has got better over the last few rpisodes

EoinMcLovin

So the last episode before Crisis had some big moments along with some major changes to two characters. One thing for sure though, the future timeline from last season definitely can’t exist now.

martingriff

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

So the last episode before Crisis had some big moments along with some major changes to two characters. One thing for sure though, the future timeline from last season definitely can’t exist now.

I heard somewhere that the back door pilot is there to show how Crisis changes and I say you are right especialy with

Roy they would not have done that unless he be on if not as a full time but pretty regular

I wonder what changes Mia & William living together will have. I can still see Conor Hawke becoming Green Arrow and Mia a fighter or Speedy 2.0. Will not happen but maybe

Agent Coulson

That was an awful backdoor pilot to the 2040 show.


Also it looks like Katie Cassidy had her chin done again

Brief_Lives

There's an incredible interview with Stephen Amell, on Michael Rosenbaums podcast, here... https://insideofyoupodcast.com/

The guy sounds utterly drained, but he's quite an interesting guy to listen to.

B.A._Baracus

Agent Coulson wrote: »

That was an awful backdoor pilot to the 2040 show.


Also it looks like Katie Cassidy had her chin done again

I always wondered why she looked different from years ago. Foolish me thinking her face just matured.

RobbingBandit

Really disappointed Dig didn't suit up for a spin-off as GL hope he pops up on Flash ir they bring him back for next crossover.

Question when Arrow defeated ra's al ghul and took his place I dropped out of watching. Would anyone recommend I get back into it. I was enjoying it, but forgot about it and never went back.

B.A._Baracus

Deleted User wrote: »

Question when Arrow defeated ra's al ghul and took his place I dropped out of watching. Would anyone recommend I get back into it. I was enjoying it, but forgot about it and never went back.

You'll get alot of opinions but mine is that as the show continued the show dropped. Bit by bit as each season came and went. I find it a very hard watch now.

CastorTroy

Yeah, think I'll pass on that spinoff.

So Laurel's a time traveler, Dinah doesn't seem to age, memories are all that's needed to be a skilled fighter, you can jump through a skylight and land on your feet with no issue (though jumping from high up has happened a lot on this show) and Laurel's stunt double needs a new wig.

Remind me again how Wayward Sisters didn't get picked up

martingriff

CastorTroy wrote: »

Yeah, think I'll pass on that spinoff.

So Laurel's a time traveler, Dinah doesn't seem to age, memories are all that's needed to be a skilled fighter, you can jump through a skylight and land on your feet with no issue (though jumping from high up has happened a lot on this show) and Laurel's stunt double needs a new wig.

Remind me again how Wayward Sisters didn't get picked up

Dinah woke up in the future after the funeral and her whole life was erased reason why she has not aged. Laurel seems to leave when they all disbanded would be cool if she ended in Legends. As for the skylight Arrow have done that a number of times as has many many other shows so if your going to throw it at this show you will need to do to others. Of course being just 1 episode of 45 minutes you will not get answers

I give it an 7.5/10

Agent Coulson

So the series finale tonight.

Hopefully Oliver gets a good send off.