Revolution [NBC - US] [* Spoilers *]

Richard Dower

somebody kill Charlie ffs!

miralize

Richard Dower wrote: »

somebody kill Charlie ffs!

I really liked her in this episode. I think Stockholm Syndrome has finally transcended into TV.

Roanmore

Hope we'll see more of the pendants and the power coming back now that they found the brother:eek:

Headshot

ugh damn wrong kid died

stevenmu

Tbh he looked like he'd be even worse than Charlie.

Any guesses on what they dug out of him at the end? It looked like a tracking device maybe?

miralize

stevenmu wrote: »

Tbh he looked like he'd be even worse than Charlie.

Any guesses on what they dug out of him at the end? It looked like a tracking device maybe?

A mini necklace device? Did the parents expect him to die when the electricity went out?

FreudianSlippers

So spend a whole season trying to get this kid back and off him in the first episode?! C'mon FFS!

Hopefully this will make Charlie less of a whiny bitch.

gavmcg92

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

So spend a whole season trying to get this kid back and off him in the first episode?! C'mon FFS!

Hopefully this will make Charlie less of a whiny bitch.

Hahaha never thought about that!

touts

Well hopefully the kids on a mission storyline is finished now and the adults can come to the fore. More lostesque mindbending quasi science to confuse the hell out of us in a good way and the battle for power in the Monroe Government with Capt Neville's wife pulling the strings like sexy Lady Macbeth.

But most likely it will now focus on the love story between impossibly good looking and groomed Charlie and impossibly good looking and groomed Neville jr.

don ramo

touts wrote: »

impossibly good looking and groomed Charlie

shes good looking no doubt, but not impossibly

i do wonder what Randal has in store for Rachael, especially since he plans on teaming up with Monroe, and what is the towers purpose, i assume that is where the machine stopping the power is, and i wonder do they need 12 pendants to interact with it, and now that bens pendant is gone will that device inside Danny make a difference,

Sarn

touts wrote: »

But most likely it will now focus on the love story between impossibly good looking and groomed Charlie and impossibly good looking and groomed Neville jr.

Confusingly, I couldn't remember who Charlie was and Miles popped into my head when I read that (damn you Twilight movies!).

Charlie isn't half as bad now as she was at the start, my dislike for her has reduced significantly. They definitely needed to kill off Danny, there are too many family members as it stands, that brother and sister combo would have been terrible.

Mr E

I think this is starting to build some momentum now. Good action, and some decent revelations about the origins of the blackout and the pendants. We were about to find out the good stuff and it cut to black.

I wonder what the tower is?

don ramo

Mr E wrote: »

I wonder what the tower is?

seems to be where whatever machine is stopping the power from working is, from what i can make of it anyway, and by what randall is saying it can be manipulated to turn power back on in certain areas, but for some reason he cant control it as of yet,

also was it me or did it seem like randall kind of knew what was about to happen when he told tower to execute, that the whole world rather than some area of afghanistan was about to blackout,

youcancallmeal

I wonder will this get a second season, I'm thinking it won't?

squonk

Strikes me as the new Falling Skies. I was pretty sure it was curtains for that show after that dismal first season, but it rallied and I have to admit I'm looking forward to its return now. Revolution isn't as bad right now as FS Season 1 was. The hiatus seems to have helped the show in that it's come back stronger I think and has a clearer focus. I do think that we'll be watching Season 2 of this next year.

don ramo

youcancallmeal wrote: »

I wonder will this get a second season, I'm thinking it won't?

well Hawaii five-0 and castle are it competition, and while both shows consistently pull in better numbers that it, revolution is consistently beating both shows in the 18-49 demographic, which really is the only one that counts, in fact the most recent episode was the first time one of the other shows have tied with revolution in that demo, and that id say was because it was castles 100 episode, and there was no Hawaii on,

id be very surprised if it didnt get renewed at this stage,

donegal_man

Well I've just sat through episode three and that's it for me. Poor acting, predictable surprises "I'm here because of a man"

her son, who'd have seen that one coming

and I'm pretty sure the NRA must be one of the sponsors the number of times it was mentioned that the dictators have taken the citizens guns.

big dar

Charlie has to be one of the most annoying characters ever

don ramo

big dar wrote: »

Charlie has to be one of the most annoying characters ever

go watch a LOT more tv

KenSwee

Awful rubbish. Not the slightest bit of realistic production. Looks like the direction came straight out of the Voyager series.
Their clothes are so clean for gods sake.
Terrible acting and the casting is beyond ridiculous. The Billy Burke character is supposed to be some former henchman who is responsible for numerous crimes. And that Tracy Spiridakos character is constantly looking like she is on the verge of bursting into tears.

don ramo

KenSwee wrote: »

Their clothes are so clean for gods sake.

OMG their clothes are clean, their clothes are clean, their clothes are clean, well contrary to some absurd piece of popular believe, we humans did manage to make and wash our clothes for the 5,000+ years before electricity was discovered, have you never questioned how cowboys in the wild west films managed to have cotton and leather clothes, or how people in the 16th century weren't completely toothless by 30, hygiene probably wasn't at as high a standard back then, but it did exist,

Venom

don ramo wrote: »

OMG their clothes are clean, their clothes are clean, their clothes are clean, well contrary to some absurd piece of popular believe, we humans did manage to make and wash our clothes for the 5,000+ years before electricity was discovered, have you never questioned how cowboys in the wild west films managed to have cotton and leather clothes, or how people in the 16th century weren't completely toothless by 30, hygiene probably wasn't at as high a standard back then, but it did exist,

Its not a case of their clothes just being clean its the clean clothes, modern designs, perfectly styled hair, great skin/health and perfect teeth in a world with out power for the last 15 years ffs.

don ramo

Venom wrote: »

Its not a case of their clothes just being clean its the clean clothes, modern designs, perfectly styled hair, great skin/health and perfect teeth in a world with out power for the last 15 years ffs.

all achieved well before the advent of electricity, taylors have been in business for more than 1,000 years, i dont know about the history of shampoo but people have managed to wash and cut and style hair for some time now (in fact here is some reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairstyle#Ancient_history ), great skin will go along with good health, healthier diets, less sugar which rots teeth, less salt which clogs arteries, you want to brush your teeth without toothpaste go get some soot from the fire mix it with water and rub it around your teeth with your finger like my grandmother done,

weve been around for, what, about 200,000 years now, weve survived without nivea moisturizer and head and shoulder shampoo for 199,900 of them years,

theholyghost

It's got some interesting ideas in the contrast between old and modern technology e.g. the militia using muskets. It could be a far more interesting show based on that.

ScumLord

don ramo wrote: »

all achieved well before the advent of electricity, taylors have been in business for more than 1,000 years, i dont know about the history of shampoo but people have managed to wash and cut and style hair for some time now (in fact here is some reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairstyle#Ancient_history ), great skin will go along with good health, healthier diets, less sugar which rots teeth, less salt which clogs arteries, you want to brush your teeth without toothpaste go get some soot from the fire mix it with water and rub it around your teeth with your finger like my grandmother done,

weve been around for, what, about 200,000 years now, weve survived without nivea moisturizer and head and shoulder shampoo for 199,900 of them years,

While that may be true, do you know how to tailor clothes? The vast majority of people don't have the skills that people would have had even 50 years ago. We're completely dependant on technology.

Plus all the clothes they are wearing are straight out of the gap, light with bold colours, handmade clothes are heavy and bright vivid colours are very difficult to find in nature. That's why purple was always a colour of royalty, it's very hard to make you need to squash 120000 shrimps to make a gram of it.

don ramo

ScumLord wrote: »

While that may be true, do you know how to tailor clothes? The vast majority of people don't have the skills that people would have had even 50 years ago. We're completely dependant on technology.

Plus all the clothes they are wearing are straight out of the gap, light with bold colours, handmade clothes are heavy and bright vivid colours are very difficult to find in nature. That's why purple was always a colour of royalty, it's very hard to make you need to squash 120000 shrimps to make a gram of it.

ive explained this before, think how many people live in america right now, about 300million, now each of them has say 5-6 different sets of clothes, and then you have the shops (GAP) which would store enough clothes to cloth the population probably another 10 or 20 times over,

then after the electricity went out, probably 10-50 million could have died simply by not getting their essential medication that keeps them alive, fighting probably killed another 50 odd million, and the you would have the starvation killing off probably another 60-100 million, now you have a population of probably 100 million, but you have enough clothes to cloth about 3 billion people stored in warehouses, still wrapped in plastic, and most clothing does last a while as long as you take care of them and wash them correctly, ive seen clothes from the 80s being sold on ebay,

the process of dying clothes has been modernism, now while machines make it easy to do, just because we dont have them doesnt mean we cant do anyway, you would be surprised at how quickly you would learn an essential task to survive if needs be,

or you could just lay down and die

ScumLord

don ramo wrote: »

ive explained this before, think how many people live in america right now, about 300million, now each of them has say 5-6 different sets of clothes, and then you have the shops (GAP) which would store enough clothes to cloth the population probably another 10 or 20 times over,

I take your point but even so those are clothes for city life. A few days living rough and those type of cheap clothes will disintegrate. They would need a warehouse full just to keep them clothed for the year. How many times are you going to keep using clothes that fall apart on you?

the process of dying clothes has been modernism, now while machines make it easy to do, just because we dont have them doesnt mean we cant do anyway, you would be surprised at how quickly you would learn an essential task to survive if needs be,

While it can be done you won't get the same colour range. People had to travel thousands of miles to find colors in ancient times. We don't appreciate how different our lives would be if we lost our global network. The west has abandoned it's manufacturing and food production and pays the poorer countries to do all this stuff for us.

The highlight of the show was the gap dressed yellow chain gang they had hauling the helicopter through the forest.

don ramo

the show is really taking it up a notch since it came back, now we know exactly what is stopping the power, i do still wonder did randall know the nanites would keep replicating or was is it just purely an unforeseen issue,

nice to see Neville get more attention, i was in stitches when he was listening to Lionel Ritchie in the humvee, giancarlo esposito was wasted in the first half of the season,

im surprised jason actually betrayed his father, knowing damn well that monroe would take nevilles failure out on his wife, it was funny when neville arrived home and his wife just told her friends "get out of my house":D

all around it was much improved,

don ramo

ScumLord wrote: »

I take your point but even so those are clothes for city life. A few days living rough and those type of cheap clothes will disintegrate. They would need a warehouse full just to keep them clothed for the year. How many times are you going to keep using clothes that fall apart on you?

While it can be done you won't get the same colour range. People had to travel thousands of miles to find colors in ancient times. We don't appreciate how different our lives would be if we lost our global network. The west has abandoned it's manufacturing and food production and pays the poorer countries to do all this stuff for us.

The highlight of the show was the gap dressed yellow chain gang they had hauling the helicopter through the forest.

people wouldn't be idiotic if something like this happened and im not in anyway saying it simple, im just saying the knowledge would be there, thing were improved with electricity and with that advantage newer methods would also be discovered, when the power goes some of them newer methods could be transferred to manual labor,

and im sorry but i must ask where do you be doing your shopping to say your clothes will fall apart if they see a forest,

and like people complaining earlier in the season about no steam engines around the place, just cause you haven't seen fleets of boats doesn't mean their not there sailing back and forth to other nations trading, just like we done for 2,000+ years, granted you need a lot more supplies as the world is unquestionably gonna be a bigger place even if 2/3 of the world died from the blackout it would still be more people than sail boats in the past ever served,

all im saying is that humanity wouldn't revert to stone age technology just because we didnt have electricity, your making out as though no one is born with straight teeth, and clothes only last 2 weeks before they turn to pulp, which is not the case at all,

ScumLord

don ramo wrote: »

people wouldn't be idiotic if something like this happened and im not in anyway saying it simple, im just saying the knowledge would be there,

That type of knowlege is only maintained by a minoity of people as a hobby. People won't just magically know how to do things just because it's been done in the past.

and im sorry but i must ask where do you be doing your shopping to say your clothes will fall apart if they see a forest,

It's just a fact, the clothes are too light to stand up to getting snagged during manual labor. You don't wear jeans and t-shirt at work, you put on tough overalls or work pants and t-shirts. Soldiers, hikers and anyone who works outdoors buy specialised clothing as normal clothing just isn't designed for anything other than display.

and like people complaining earlier in the season about no steam engines around the place, just cause you haven't seen fleets of boats doesn't mean their not there sailing back and forth to other nations trading,

But there's no sign at all of them manufacturing or using any sort of engines. They're using stuff left over from before the power went. There's nothing that I can see that would have been made after the powercut. They show no sign of having learned anything new.

even if 2/3 of the world died from the blackout it would still be more people than sail boats in the past ever served,

Sailing isn't easy, you won't just pick it up, someone has to teach you how to do it. If there's a handful of people in the entire world that can navigate without modern GPS I'd be very surprised. Even the best sailors in the world, the Vikings got lost.

all im saying is that humanity wouldn't revert to stone age technology just because we didnt have electricity, your making out as though no one is born with straight teeth, and clothes only last 2 weeks before they turn to pulp, which is not the case at all,

They have essentially reverted to stone age people living off the scrapes of the modern world and I'm not saying the clothes would turn to pulp I'm just saying they're not capable of withstanding the kind of abuse they'd be getting during labor and outdoor life.

Richard Dower

Several sites are now reporting that a season 2 pickup is incoming and expected shortly

sibby

So I tried watching this when it aired in the US but just kind of forgot about it after the first episode and never watched more
Now that it's airing over here I decided to give it another try (I'm a sucker for all that post apocalyptic stuff). I REALLY want to like it because it's such an interesting concept............sadly it's just not living up to its full potential!
The plot is boring, whether that's down to the script or actors I don't know. I'm only on the third episode (I'm watching it as it airs on sky instead of online) and honestly the only reason I watched the most recent one is because I was bored and there was nothing else on, not because i wanted to.

That being said I'll try to stick with it in the hopes it improves.......god I want it to improve!!

miralize

sibby wrote: »

So I tried watching this when it aired in the US but just kind of forgot about it after the first episode and never watched more
Now that it's airing over here I decided to give it another try (I'm a sucker for all that post apocalyptic stuff). I REALLY want to like it because it's such an interesting concept............sadly it's just not living up to its full potential!
The plot is boring, whether that's down to the script or actors I don't know. I'm only on the third episode (I'm watching it as it airs on sky instead of online) and honestly the only reason I watched the most recent one is because I was bored and there was nothing else on, not because i wanted to.

That being said I'll try to stick with it in the hopes it improves.......god I want it to improve!!

You'll be waiting, I know I am...

Rob30888

miralize wrote: »

You'll be waiting, I know I am...

Since it's comeback from the hiatus, the quality and storytelling has improved dramatically. I've gone from having 7 episodes piled up to watch to actively looking forward to it each week.

stevenmu

don ramo wrote: »

the show is really taking it up a notch since it came back, now we know exactly what is stopping the power, i do still wonder did randall know the nanites would keep replicating or was is it just purely an unforeseen issue

I definitely think he did. He seems to have snapped over losing his son and wants to remake the world. I thought it was very clear in the previous episode when he was giving the order to go ahead that he either knew it would happen, or that he possibly even caused it (he possibly got one or more of the other scientists to help out).

miralize

Rob30888 wrote: »

Since it's comeback from the hiatus, the quality and storytelling has improved dramatically. I've gone from having 7 episodes piled up to watch to actively looking forward to it each week.

Just watched last nights episode. WAs indeed much more captivating. They finally explained what caused the power outage

sibby

Rob30888 wrote: »

Since it's comeback from the hiatus, the quality and storytelling has improved dramatically. I've gone from having 7 episodes piled up to watch to actively looking forward to it each week.

Oh I'm so glad you've said this. Now i don't feel like I'm wasting my time watching it!

VinLieger

Back to enjoying this again but i still am unable to get over the ridiculous idea that not one person in the revolution universe is able to sail a boat

don ramo

VinLieger wrote: »

Back to enjoying this again but i still am unable to get over the ridiculous idea that not one person in the revolution universe is able to sail a boat

we had the same argument about steam engines earlier in the season, and then BANG along comes a steam engine, so far the show is based primarily inland, only rivers and whatnot, im pretty sure sail boats are in operation somewhere,

at the end of the day, the power went out and society fell apart, wars broke out and now there is some kind of map being formed of the lay of the land, who controls where and whatnot, and only then can you actually start to rebuild some semblance of a proper forward thinking society,

people are forgetting that its only 15 years later, and most of that period was spent raging war against one another, therefore there hasnt been much time to build even some basic stuff like forges to build new steam powered engines, shipyards and supplies to build big sail boats that can traverse the planet, there will be a handfull of items left over from before the power went out, but they would be rare, and only someone that has power like monroe could keep and maintain such things,

stevenmu

They did mention at one point too that most ships had been stripped down for their materials during the war.

don ramo

stevenmu wrote: »

They did mention at one point too that most ships had been stripped down for their materials during the war.

yeah well anything with an engine was pretty much useless, so why keep it around when it can be used for other things,

FreudianSlippers

Woah, did this show just get good?!

I wasn't impressed when it returned; but this week's episode really upped the game. I'm interested to learn more about Miles and the mother (whose name escapes me) - was there an implication that the kids may be his or was that just me over-reading into it?

miralize

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

Woah, did this show just get good?!

I wasn't impressed when it returned; but this week's episode really upped the game. I'm interested to learn more about Miles and the mother (whose name escapes me) - was there an implication that the kids may be his or was that just me over-reading into it?

maybe one of them is his? Great to see the guys son back & get him to give up the location. The thing I really want to know is when will Aaron get something to do? He's given absolutely nothing to this show so far, but I still kind of root for him to do something big.

FreudianSlippers

miralize wrote: »

maybe one of them is his? Great to see the guys son back & get him to give up the location. The thing I really want to know is when will Aaron get something to do? He's given absolutely nothing to this show so far, but I still kind of root for him to do something big.

The writers had given him (rather annoyingly obviously) a very specific purpose - we just don't know what yet. He's like the Hurley of Revolution; lumbering and in the way most of the time, but you root for him and he ends up being key. Unlike Lost, you didn't get the sense from day 1 that the writers had something in mind - this was always a criticism that the writers were making it up as they went along, but I disagree, I think it's subtle writing which Revolution could do with.

ScumLord

How come peoples nervous system aren't affected by these electricity sapping nanobots?

don ramo

ScumLord wrote: »

How come peoples nervous system aren't affected by these electricity sapping nanobots?

i dunno maybe they are programmed not to effect organic tissue, you'll have to ask Rachel when you see her;),

FreudianSlippers

ScumLord wrote: »

How come peoples nervous system aren't affected by these electricity sapping nanobots?

Common sense?! In Revolution?! BURN THE WITCH!

Rovi

don ramo wrote: »

yeah well anything with an engine was pretty much useless, so why keep it around when it can be used for other things,

The world is full of old technology diesel engines that require no electrics whatsoever and will run on a wide variety of fuels.
Starting the bigger ones would be the only major stumbling block, and that's far from an insurmountable problem.

ScumLord

don ramo wrote: »

i dunno maybe they are programmed not to effect organic tissue, you'll have to ask Rachel when you see her;),

She explained the very basic programming in the last episode. She said they have two programs, replicate and sap electricity. Although I don't know what they're doing with all this electricity, remember the basic laws of physics say that energy doesn't disappear it just changes.

Although we do see that electrical devices in the show somehow store energy long past the point they actually could. For example all batteries have a shelf life of roughly 5 years. After than they can no longer hold a charge. Yet we see mobiles booting up after 15 years.

preytec

Rovi wrote: »

The world is full of old technology diesel engines that require no electrics whatsoever and will run on a wide variety of fuels.
Starting the bigger ones would be the only major stumbling block, and that's far from an insurmountable problem.

you have a great point, i have always said something to that effect. it's been 15 years and they still don't have anything like a steam engine running apart from the one they got from a museum. were are all the steam cars? plus there are roads that you could make a sail car for. i know these wouldn't help towards mass transport, but it'd save you walking everywhere, also they are all too healthy and i don't see any soap anywhere, after a week without soap your hands would be so dirty that you'd end up getting sick all the time.

also the DOD guy was driving a car around, petrol only has a 2 year shelf life.

do you not need electrics for the glow plugs in diesel engines?