defending against 'skilled MMA assailants'

SBG Ireland

well thankfully somebody is finally addressing the very common scenario of trained mma fighters attacking people. and it takes me about 3yrs of 4-5 times a week to train somebody up for their first amateur fight...yes these 12 classes will have you ready to take out a pro...free bottle of snail oil and bag of magic beans when you complete it too.

We are launching a new advanced 12 week course Wednesday Feb 1

This course is aimed at building 'MMA' style skills to add to you repertoire, this
course will also focusing on countering skilled MMA assailants, as with the rise
of the UFC and dodgy poorly run MMA clubs, there seems to be a new breed
of tough guys emerging with these skills


This course will include:

- Ground fighting as taught to me personally by the Gracies in LA
- Thai boxing kicking and punching as taught to me in the Fairtek boxing camp in Thailand

We will focus on develop punching, kicking and grappling skills. These skills
are a core part of advanced Krav Maga, But I supplemented my KM training by training
with the worlds top 'specialist'in these areas

Building these skill will improve your overall Self Defence Capability and
allow you deal with 'bad guys' who are MMA trained

We will alsopractice using our unique approach to street self defence, so that you
have the best of the both worlds, the street and survival focus of KM along
with specialist expertise. Meaning you can prevail against a highly trained
MMA 'bad guy'


Key Tools we you will develop on this course include

- Strong core 'street' boxing skills - how to use Jabs, cross, uppercuts and hooks on the street
- Crazy Monkey Defence , (I pioneered this in KM training over 8 years and and was abused for it, now it is
used all over the world, and showing up in professional MMA matches )
- 'Shovel' Hook, a devastating hook punch that is massively effective in the street
- 'Tree Chopper' Shin Kick, this is kick I learned in Thailand, guaranteed to drop anyone
- 'Barn Door' kick, my contribution to the the kicking game, which has featured in books by best selling author John Connolly
- "Take Down Trilogy," I will teach the best 3 ways to take some down if necessary
- 'Monster Tamers' The 2 chokes that you can use to 'tame' anyone
- Submission Holds, How to immobilise and make and attacker surrender, include the 8 second 'Sleeper'

We will also include light sparring

This course runs just once a year, its starts Feb 15 and will run for 12 Weeks.
The course fee is 195

i wont bother mentioning who's running it, most of you can guess im sure.

arte suave

The saddest thing about this is that this joker will probably fill this class with unsuspecting people who don't know any better. By the end of the course he will brain wash half of them into thinking he is the second coming of Mr Miyagi and the other half will realise the course is bull **** and think all MMA gyms are pushing the same crap and never go to train in a real gym. Either way guys like this are hurting the sport. If ever a dojo storm was needed I think it's now. Somebody needs to put this guy and his 'Monster Tamers' to the test.

Dermighty

SBG Ireland wrote: »

well thankfully somebody is finally addressing the very common scenario of trained mma fighters attacking people. and it takes me about 3yrs of 4-5 times a week to train somebody up for their first amateur fight...yes these 12 classes will have you ready to take out a pro...free bottle of snail oil and bag of magic beans when you complete it too.



i wont bother mentioning who's running it, most of you can guess im sure.

It looks like a load of bollocks.

/thread

Dyr

Funny coincidence, I was just talking to someone about this incident just five minutes ago:

Few years back I saw two guys get into a fight with another two guys out my way, one of the first pair was a major dealer in the neighborhood when i was a kid, real scumbag. His mate got to fighting with one of the other pair and he had obviously spent some time training MMA. Took the guy down handily, got mount and smacked the guy a few times before getting off him. When it kicked off again he got underhooks and moved the guy around like a ragdoll before catching him with a hook as he stepped out, floored the guy with it. I stopped watching after that cos the dealer fella had pulled a chain out and started swinging it and I didnt plan on being a witness :pac:

I would never have thought that scummers are training MMA or martial arts but judging by the company this guy was in..it happens

SBG Ireland

yeah i dont plan on becoming a scumbag dealer either so guess im good to go

darced

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manga_10

This add forgets to mention that they trained with steven seagal since they could walk, that they can kill a man with a single punch and also that they are black ops operatives who make seagal's characters in films look tame

yomchi

And in the small print...

We will also include light sparring

SBG Ireland

prays on almost every mans adolescent fantasy of beating up the jock in front of his girl
let me shatter that for you
first of all she doesnt care, if you love her thats enough
unless you devote yourself to combat sports its not going to be real
after the fact it becomes real you wont need it anymore
she really doesnt care
do whatever sport/activity makes you smile
thats about it

the_syco

- Strong core 'street' boxing skills - how to use Jabs, cross, uppercuts and hooks on the street
- Crazy Monkey Defence , (I pioneered this in KM training over 8 years and and was abused for it, now it is
used all over the world, and showing up in professional MMA matches )
- 'Shovel' Hook, a devastating hook punch that is massively effective in the street
- 'Tree Chopper' Shin Kick, this is kick I learned in Thailand, guaranteed to drop anyone
- 'Barn Door' kick, my contribution to the the kicking game, which has featured in books by best selling author John Connolly
- "Take Down Trilogy," I will teach the best 3 ways to take some down if necessary
- 'Monster Tamers' The 2 chokes that you can use to 'tame' anyone
- Submission Holds, How to immobilise and make and attacker surrender, include the 8 second 'Sleeper'

If you're going to fight an unknown on the street, ensure you have a gun, as they may have more than fists. The above will be useful in a drunken brawl after the nightclub, if you're sober*, and remember all the moves, but other than that, the person organising this will probably get people badly hurt or even killed.

*it ain't a drunken brawl if you're sober, it's a premeditated assault.

tysonslovechild

whos advert is this?

theboxingclinic

wowzers!! this guys is amazing

SBG Ireland

SBG Ireland

Niall0

SBG Ireland wrote: »

John your always trying to give people your STDs :pac:

Plastikman_eire

Typical, too little too late. Where was this training when it was needed?

Two guys assaulted by cage fighters

paulmclaughlin

Plastikman_eire wrote: »

Typical, too little too late. Where was this training when it was needed?

Two guys assaulted by cage fighters

Wow, where to start? Two thugs attack 2 people they believe to be women but turn out to be cross-dressing cage fighters? And both thugs got charged over this and you want to give them training?

cowzerp

SBG Ireland wrote: »

Seriously, do a series of these John-Comedy gold.

yomchi

cowzerp wrote: »

Seriously, do a series of these John-Comedy gold.

It's sooo obvious you have one of them angled floors and enlarged ornaments to make you look bigger

pablohoney87

Was this advertised in Ireland or is it that crowd The Self Defense Company?

shinobi academy

8 second sleeper......needs to work on his squeez, but they keep that for getting the money out of you for the courses!:)

MMAIRELANDFAN

Just get to your closest Kyokushin Karate club to learn how to defend against MMA.

pablohoney87

MMAIRELANDFAN wrote: »

Just get to your closest Kyokushin Karate club to learn how to defend against MMA.

i give the same odds to that working as i do to this situation happening.

RoboRat

There goes my weekend then. I was planning on heading out, taking a few elderly folks down for a bit of GNP before trying a flying armbar on an unsuspecting tourist... the tourists ALWAYS tap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXNroQ1-dWs

Enuf said.

The Bored One

Anyone got a link for the site the original ad is from? I'd love to read some more of their advertising, I could do with a good laugh

arybvtcw0eolkf

The Bored One wrote: »

Anyone got a link for the site the original ad is from? I'd love to read some more of their advertising, I could do with a good laugh

I'd love it too

SBG Ireland

as requested

http://kravmagaireland.ie/

kravmaga.ie

kravmaga.ie wrote:

The full course fee 395 which covers 18 hours of training over 12 weeks or
2 full days from 9:30-5:30

WTF. Whoever pays that for this training deserves to be parted from their money.

themandan6611

just signed up, anyone else doing this ?

Niall Keane

There is a kung fu tradition of "kick school", basically one strolls along to a school that purports to be teaching fighting and try out against the "master", traditionally if you win you get the students. Dont think that will happen, but if I was MMA, or if someone made this claim about Sanda fighters, well I think I would "drop down" for a lesson. Maybe we should all pool in to send a pro-MMA fighter along to the course? maybe 2 lads, one to film the encounter?
never mind pro though, to make it fair test of arts, send a lad with 12 weeks MMA training under his belt, someone with the usual "sport" training of 4-5 days a week minimum heavy sparring.

Chris89

Niall Keane wrote: »

There is a kung fu tradition of "kick school", basically one strolls along to a school that purports to be teaching fighting and try out against the "master", traditionally if you win you get the students. Dont think that will happen, but if I was MMA, or if someone made this claim about Sanda fighters, well I think I would "drop down" for a lesson. Maybe we should all pool in to send a pro-MMA fighter along to the course? maybe 2 lads, one to film the encounter?
never mind pro though, to make it fair test of arts, send a lad with 12 weeks MMA training under his belt, someone with the usual "sport" training of 4-5 days a week minimum heavy sparring.

Or maybe the guy who says he can teach you how to fight off a skilled MMA opponent actually fights one himself. I'll chip in for that anyway.

Ridiculous Lee Handsome

If people are chipping in then I'll put my name forward as the surprise guest. That would be great fun.

creeper1

Ridiculous Lee Handsome wrote: »

If people are chipping in then I'll put my name forward as the surprise guest. That would be great fun.

Well I can tell you what excuse he'll use if he meets any skilled mma fighters willing to challenge him. It will go along the lines of this -

Master/Guru - "MMA athletes follow rules. Those rules started out as minimal but have grown quite a bit. Look - I am a street fighter. I deal with MMA athletes by not following the rules. Don't expect me not to bite, attack the eyes or kick you in the balls. In fact, if you watch my first technique I will detail how MMA is a mere sport and, in real life, fighers don't wear groin protection. I use that to my advantage and knee the two assailants in the balls."

MMA Challenger - " I figure you'd say that. However just for you I am willing to drop the rules and we can go toe to toe no rules."

Master/Guru - " I don't want you (or me) going to hospital. Look real fighting is just too dangerous and we can't be at that. In my second series I get my car keys between my knuckles and punch the assailants. Do you know how much damage that would do? Besides I am talking about dealing with MMA fighters when they are on a night out and drunk and trying to start something. In a situation like that you can anticipate what is going to happen and put your hand in the pocket remove keys...... blah, blah, blah."

yomchi

creeper1 wrote: »

Well I can tell you what excuse he'll use if he meets any skilled mma fighters willing to challenge him. It will go along the lines of this -

Master/Guru - "MMA athletes follow rules. Those rules started out as minimal but have grown quite a bit. Look - I am a street fighter. I deal with MMA athletes by not following the rules. Don't expect me not to bite, attack the eyes or kick you in the balls. In fact, if you watch my first technique I will detail how MMA is a mere sport and, in real life, fighers don't wear groin protection. I use that to my advantage and knee the two assailants in the balls."

MMA Challenger - " I figure you'd say that. However just for you I am willing to drop the rules and we can go toe to toe no rules."

Master/Guru - " I don't want you (or me) going to hospital. Look real fighting is just too dangerous and we can't be at that. In my second series I get my car keys between my knuckles and punch the assailants. Do you know how much damage that would do? Besides I am talking about dealing with MMA fighters when they are on a night out and drunk and trying to start something. In a situation like that you can anticipate what is going to happen and put your hand in the pocket remove keys...... blah, blah, blah."

You actually acted that out in your head didn't you?

RoboRat

You actually acted that out in your head didn't you?

I was thinking that myself, bit of a John Dorian monologue going on there! Probably quite accurate too!

yomchi

RoboRat wrote: »

I was thinking that myself, bit of a John Dorian monologue going on there! Probably quite accurate too!

I heard the cat legged it and dog went hiding as pillows were getting the sh1t bate out of them

First Aid Ireland

double post

First Aid Ireland

krav advert wrote:

Key Tools we you will develop on this course include

- Strong core 'street' boxing skills - how to use Jabs, cross, uppercuts and hooks on the street
- Crazy Monkey Defence , (I pioneered this in KM training over 8 years and and was abused for it, now it is
used all over the world, and showing up in professional MMA matches )
- 'Shovel' Hook, a devastating hook punch that is massively effective in the street
- 'Tree Chopper' Shin Kick, this is kick I learned in Thailand, guaranteed to drop anyone
- 'Barn Door' kick, my contribution to the the kicking game, which has featured in books by best selling author John Connolly
- "Take Down Trilogy," I will teach the best 3 ways to take some down if necessary
- 'Monster Tamers' The 2 chokes that you can use to 'tame' anyone
- Submission Holds, How to immobilise and make and attacker surrender, include the 8 second 'Sleeper'

Some colourful descriptions there and some interesting claims and guarantees. Wonder if he's tested those claims.

Can anyone who's involved with "professional MMA matches" tell me what the "crazy monkey defence" is???

Jason McCabe

It is a well known fact that MMA fighters cannot kick people on the ball sack or bite

This is why they gravitated towards MMA. In reality they are sissies with tattoos, hoodies and no ball control

RoboRat

It is a well known fact that MMA fighters cannot kick people on the ball sack or bite

ORLY...

Ridiculous Lee Handsome

Key Tools we you will develop on this course include

- Strong core 'street' boxing skills - how to use Jabs, cross, uppercuts and hooks on the street
- Crazy Monkey Defence , (I pioneered this in KM training over 8 years and and was abused for it, now it is
used all over the world, and showing up in professional MMA matches )

Crazy Monkey Defence was promoted by Rodney King (not that one) a lot longer than eight years ago. It was used by people would didn't know how to box to get into clinch range with a boxer. In modern MMA it has more or less been replaced by, you know, knowing how to box.

- 'Shovel' Hook, a devastating hook punch that is massively effective in the street

Probably an overhand right, at a guess. Just another punch, there are no magic punches.


- 'Tree Chopper' Shin Kick, this is kick I everyone who has ever done Thai boxing learned in Thailand in any good Thai boxing gym, guaranteed to drop to be quite painful to anyone most people if you are good at it and have been practising for years.

- 'Barn Door' kick, my contribution to the the kicking game, which has featured in books by best selling author John Connolly

Front kick?

- "Take Down Trilogy," I will teach the best 3 ways to take some down if necessary

Unless they know how to wrestle and have spend years defending your three basic wrestling techniques, obviously.

- 'Monster Tamers' The 2 chokes that you can use to 'tame' anyone
- Submission Holds, How to immobilise and make and attacker surrender, include the 8 second 'Sleeper'

Guillotine and rear naked I would imagine. Even in MMA these days they are less common than ten years ago, because literally everyone knows how to defend them.



I've made some changes.

yomchi

I think people should stop taking the p1ss, it has been known for sometime that it doesn't take much to put a skilled MMA or any fighter on their back quite easily.









































Course fee: €1000

Barry.Oglesby

The "Shovel" hook is essentially a bodyshot with a more upward angle that every boxer in the world knows. You use it in tight to the low ribs or the liver (LIVER SHOT!).

And this is why this is bollocks, in a nutshell. If jab and cross are the ABCs to a beginner, then a shovel hook is conjugating Latin verbs while riding on a unicycle.

RoboRat

The "Shovel" hook is essentially a bodyshot with a more upward angle that every boxer in the world knows. You use it in tight to the low ribs or the liver (LIVER SHOT!).

Yep, that's what I was thought it was too. Jesus anyone who has trained in boxing or MT knows how to do a liver punch and more importantly, how to hold an effective guard against it.

cowzerp

RoboRat wrote: »

Yep, that's what I was thought it was too. Jesus anyone who has trained in boxing or MT knows how to do a liver punch and more importantly, how to hold an effective guard against it.

Thing is it takes lots of practise to get good at this and no quick course is going to do the trick, even if been taught by Freddie Roach.

Dyr

yomchi wrote: »

I think people should stop taking the p1ss, it has been known for sometime that it doesn't take much to put a skilled MMA or any fighter on their back quite easily.









































Course fee: €1000

Hope you're not suggesting that people should carry guns :eek:. *moral outrage*

RoboRat

Thing is it takes lots of practise to get good at this and no quick course is going to do the trick, even if been taught by Freddie Roach.

Unless of course you are taught by a Krav Maga master... he can also teach you fluent Arabic whilst showing you how to execute a perfect helicopter kick in under 10 mins.

creeper1

I reread the advertisement and it seems even worse than I suggested.

There is talk of Thai boxing techniques and take downs.

That is basically trying to beat an MMA artist at their own game. :rolleyes:

cowzerp

I'd be super shocked to hear that a Krav maga group where trying to teach stuff they don't know or stuff that will get people in trouble :eek:

SDTimeout

I'll contribute 50 euro to the MMA guy who challenges him , assuming it is recorded.