Big bag fertiliser weight

johngalway

What weight is normally in a big bag of fertiliser? All we get around here is the 50kg bags. What price would the big bag stuff be?

whelan1

urea is normally 375kg, with 1.5 tone on a pallet - that is 4 bags- and can is normally 500kg, with 4 bags on a pallet or 2 tonne

johngalway

Silly question, does 18.6.12 come in big bag?

reilig

johngalway wrote: »

Silly question, does 18.6.12 come in big bag?

Yes it does.

Around here the last few years, there has been no cost saving on big bags over small bags. Before that it was about €5 to €10 per ton.

whelan1

afaik ye, we get the 24 , 2.5, 10 or similar in half tonne bags most fertiliser come in big bags

johngalway

reilig wrote: »

Yes it does.

Around here the last few years, there has been no cost saving on big bags over small bags. Before that it was about €5 to €10 per ton.

Ah, bugger, lol.

Farmer Pudsey

reilig wrote: »

Yes it does.

Around here the last few years, there has been no cost saving on big bags over small bags. Before that it was about €5 to €10 per ton.

The discount on big bags is it saves your back

PMU

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

The discount on big bags is it saves your back

thats for sure,havent had a bad back since i started using them 10years ago

reilig

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

The discount on big bags is it saves your back

But you have to have a machine for lifting them.

from johngalway's posts on here in the past, i believe he intends getting out the metal bucket and leather glove to apply his fertiliser ??

johngalway

reilig wrote: »

But you have to have a machine for lifting them.

from johngalway's posts on here in the past, i believe he intends getting out the metal bucket and leather glove to apply his fertiliser ??

Ah ha! Yes, but no

Nothing to lift them for sure, unless I really start packing away the Flahavans in the morning :pac: But I have retired the dreaded bucket. Last year I went and bought one of these...

Erm one of the first two, I forget which:

http://www.earthway.com/category/hand/

What'll probably happen is it'll leave horrible burnt stripes across my lovely green bog and then Google Earth will update their photos so I'll be reminded of it for years to come

So anyway, since I will be borrowing the quad off the sisters boyfriends brother (yeah, I know, but beggars can't be choosers) I'll have to cart the fert to it's spreading destination anyway. If I could have made a saving on the big bag stuff then I could have possibly wrangled a trailer off someone for a day and shovel it into that.

Sounds overly complicated but it'd have been the same labour for less money.

Username John

johngalway wrote: »

Ah ha! Yes, but no

Nothing to lift them for sure, unless I really start packing away the Flahavans in the morning :pac: But I have retired the dreaded bucket. Last year I went and bought one of these...

Erm one of the first two, I forget which:

http://www.earthway.com/category/hand/

What'll probably happen is it'll leave horrible burnt stripes across my lovely green bog and then Google Earth will update their photos so I'll be reminded of it for years to come

So anyway, since I will be borrowing the quad off the sisters boyfriends brother (yeah, I know, but beggars can't be choosers) I'll have to cart the fert to it's spreading destination anyway. If I could have made a saving on the big bag stuff then I could have possibly wrangled a trailer off someone for a day and shovel it into that.

Sounds overly complicated but it'd have been the same labour for less money.

I would be very much a novice on the fertliser application as well John. But with the big bag - would you not be very dependant on good weather to open / shovel / move / spread the fertiliser?
At least in the small bags, if you got caught, if you were careful with the bags, you could leave them in a field unopened and come back and spread them the next day.

If you have a heap of fertilser - that needs to go out that day. And if it gets wet, would that cause even more hassle when spreading?

Like I say, dont know much about fertilser, but have been caught with wet fertilser once or twice, and isnt easily forgotten...

johngalway

Username John wrote: »

I would be very much a novice on the fertliser application as well John. But with the big bag - would you not be very dependant on good weather to open / shovel / move / spread the fertiliser?
At least in the small bags, if you got caught, if you were careful with the bags, you could leave them in a field unopened and come back and spread them the next day.

If you have a heap of fertilser - that needs to go out that day. And if it gets wet, would that cause even more hassle when spreading?

Like I say, dont know much about fertilser, but have been caught with wet fertilser once or twice, and isnt easily forgotten...

For all I'd need for the best of the farm John, one good day would see it out on the ground. Besides I always have a roll of polythene handy

I'd transfer it from the big bag to feed bags at the road, then onto the quad and zoom off up. Into my new machine spreader and I'm away. I usually spread a mix of 18.6.12 and 0.7.30 anyway, so I'd be measuring and mixing into feed bags from the 50kg bags. A leftover from my long forgotten REPS plan :rolleyes:

Am well used to dodging rain and showers here, actually I never minded and somewhat prefer a soft day for spreading, Helps the granules melt. It's just rain and downpours you have to be mindful about IMO, that's not weather to spread in, small or big bag.

Bizzum

johngalway wrote: »

I'd transfer it from the big bag to feed bags at the road, then onto the quad and zoom off up. Into my new machine spreader and I'm away. I usually spread a mix of 18.6.12 and 0.7.30 anyway, so I'd be measuring and mixing into feed bags from the 50kg bags.

Seems to me a lot of extra work with the half tonne bags. At least the 50kg bag is transportable intact on the quad, to the point of spreading, no spilling or messing.

johngalway

Bizzum wrote: »

Seems to me a lot of extra work with the half tonne bags. At least the 50kg bag is transportable intact on the quad, to the point of spreading, no spilling or messing.

I've to measure and mix the two ferts, so the 50kg bag never reaches the point of spreading intact.

Bizzum

johngalway wrote: »

I've to measure and mix the two ferts, so the 50kg bag never reaches the point of spreading intact.

Can you not transport two 50kg bags (18-6-12 and 0-7-30) intact and mix on site just before spreading?

johngalway

Bizzum wrote: »

Can you not transport two 50kg bags (18-6-12 and 0-7-30) intact and mix on site just before spreading?

They're not mixed 50 : 50, so it'd be more work to do it at point of spread, because I'd have bits of bags and do more travel to make up for that. Handier to get it all mixed first then fly off with it.

Bizzum

johngalway wrote: »

They're not mixed 50 : 50, so it'd be more work to do it at point of spread, because I'd have bits of bags and do more travel to make up for that. Handier to get it all mixed first then fly off with it.

Every cripple has his own way of walking:D

johngalway

I got complimented on my grass cover pre lambing last year, so reckon I must be doing something right