Cloud Computing

skinny90

Have you used much cloud based services and what do think of them?, alot of people i know are completly against it and feel that their giving away their information yet continue to email,facebook internet banking etc
whats you're opinion and do you think it will last.

ps i know its not your typical AH thread but sure feck it theirs not many places where youl get some good,funny and completly ridiculous responses

ntlbell

I've been using the cloud since the early 90's

It's called the internet.

starbelgrade

It's very cloudy where I live.

MickySticks

I like to eat jam out of the jar with a scissors.

davet82

skinny90 wrote: »

ps i know its not your typical AH thread but sure feck it theirs not many places where youl get some good,funny and completly ridiculous responses

Well fcuk writing an in depth review with that attitude mr. smarty pants :mad:

joshrogan

You haven't experienced cloud computing till you've hit cloud nine.

skinny90

this is my point,the people iv been talking to are in IT but when it comes to this kind of stuff they're completly against it...

skinny90

davet82 wrote: »

Well fcuk writing an in depth review with that attitude mr. smarty pants :mad:

ara come on, if i hadnt said it all id be reading is ''why are you writting here on AH go to write somewhere on the tech threads''

smash

There's no way in hell I'm backing up my porn to some random server thousands of miles away!

Run_to_da_hills

I wandered lonely as a cloud
that floats on high o'er vales and hills,
when all at once I heard a shout,
get off the fcuking computer.

MysticalRain

I tried it. But found all that thunder and lightning wreaked havoc with my data.

davet82

skinny90 wrote: »

ara come on, if i hadnt said it all id be reading is ''why are you writting here on AH go to write somewhere on the tech threads''

too late, i dont wanna hear it, i'll just post my 30,000 word responce somewhere else thank you very much

Brendog

My mam always told me "I've me head in the clouds"


...but **** that bitch, thats where the money is at these days!

Guill

Is that the same as Duncan McCloud of the Clan McCloud?

Sindri

I always aspired to be a cloud. To have no worries or fears and to go where the wind takes you, morphing in shape and size, the whole world like a marble beneath you, just gliding and floating along suspended in time and space.

smash

Sindri wrote: »

I always aspired to be a cloud. To have no worries or fears and to go where the wind takes you, morphing in shape and size, the whole world like a marble beneath you, just gliding and floating along suspended in time and space.

Until you evaporate and DIE!!!!!!!

Dyr

I reckon its a load of old bollocks

elasticspastic

joshrogan wrote: »

You haven't experienced cloud computing till you've hit cloud nine.

Is that where the sexiest servers are held?

Sindri

smash wrote: »

Until you evaporate and DIE!!!!!!!

That's the beauty, to dissipate gently, like dew on a midsummer morning, and then to convalesce again and again in a weightless format of being.

Guill

Don't forget your cloud insurance...

jester77

It's all a big con job, I've flown many 1000's of miles and have yet to see a single server sitting in a cloud.

Overheal

I can control my desktop, from my iPod. Add Windows Skydrive to that and I can remotely transfer files from a computer that could be thousands of miles away for free, even if I'm being stupid and leave my homework on my PC.

Cloud is bitchin.

smash

Overheal wrote: »

I can control my desktop, from my iPod. Add Windows Skydrive to that and I can remotely transfer files from a computer that could be thousands of miles away for free, even if I'm being stupid and leave my homework on my PC.

Cloud is bitchin.

That's not really cloud computing is it? I'd consider cloud computing as being storing your files in a central location and accessing them from anywhere / sharing them across all your devices simultaneously. Remote desktop was available as part of windows ME if I remember correctly. Possible before that...

Bad Panda

skinny90 wrote: »

Have you used much cloud based services and what do think of them?, alot of people i know are completly against it and feel that their giving away their information yet continue to email,facebook internet banking etc
whats you're opinion and do you think it will last.

ps i know its not your typical AH thread but sure feck it theirs not many places where youl get some good,funny and completly ridiculous responses

These people are idiots.

I use Google music, but that's it at the moment. It rocks!

Laika1986

Cloud computing is the future of how we use the internet imo. Think about televisions in five years time, no need for downloading new shows they will all exist in the cloud online no need for sky boxes or any of that anymore!

There are major security issues with storing data on the cloud but the cost for businesses both new and old big and small has been cut dramatically. It's computer evolution at the end of the day

Chuck Stone

I predict a return to snail mail and the use of pigeons to transmit messages privately.

Paparazzo

It's a new buzzword for something that's been happening for years. A load of bollocks. You'll hear your manager in work mention the word "cloud" in meetings in an attempt to sound like they're working with new technologies.

Stiffler2

Who the F**K coined this term "Cloud Computing"


CLOUD COMPUTING
IS
A
SCAM











Shuppose I'll explain myself here.

What's the difference between normal hosting & "the Cloud"

You don't own the hardware or maintain it, that's about it.
BUT - you now also don't own your data - big security risk

granted - a few savings in cost of maintenance of a server but does that outweight the potential of having your data robbed, I would think not.

The reason people in IT don't like the cloud.
They tuk r dobs

smash

Laika1986 wrote: »

Cloud computing is the future of how we use the internet imo.

Do you know what the internet is?

whatsamsn

Dont really know the full story with cloud computing

Am I right its something to do with storing your data elsewhere (as in not on your hard drive) ?

I remember looking at an article ones about it. It was all just uber-nerd stuff. Devoid of any straight answers.

Raging_Ninja

Laika1986 wrote: »

Cloud computing is the future of how we use the internet imo. Think about televisions in five years time, no need for downloading new shows they will all exist in the cloud online no need for sky boxes or any of that anymore!

There are major security issues with storing data on the cloud but the cost for businesses both new and old big and small has been cut dramatically. It's computer evolution at the end of the day

"cloud computing" has been around for over a decade. its just a new buzzword for a distributed computing.

brianwalshcork

There's a lot of misinterpretation and dodgy definitions of the cloud in this thread.

professore

brianwalshcork wrote: »

There's a lot of misinterpretation and dodgy definitions of the cloud in this thread.

Pfft. Cloud computing is whatever the marketing heads say it is. Most of them have their heads stuck in the clouds anyway.

ntlbell

whatsamsn wrote: »

Dont really know the full story with cloud computing

Am I right its something to do with storing your data elsewhere (as in not on your hard drive) ?

Yes back in the 70's people called this the internet. Today we call it, well, the internet.

whatsamsn wrote: »

I remember looking at an article ones about it. It was all just uber-nerd stuff. Devoid of any straight answers.

At one point the word internet was only used by ubber-nerds, now every idiot in the country is now using the internet but have no ****ing idea what they're doing or what it's called.

through the firewall ya'll!!

Professey Chin

I love my dropbox

ntlbell

The Great Chinholio wrote: »

I love my dropbox

I love dropping down on your ma's box

Mr Benevolent

I work in cloud computing. One day there'll be a magnetic storm and your information will go up in smoke. Same in a WW3 situation - the undersea fiberoptic cables will be cut, kaboom.

It's a moneysaving trend and not a good idea long term.

Where To

Confab wrote: »

I work in cloud computing. One day there'll be a magnetic storm and your information will go up in smoke. Same in a WW3 situation - the undersea fiberoptic cables will be cut, kaboom.

It's a moneysaving trend and not a good idea long term.

Filing cabinets and bookcases.

These are the future.

laugh

Cloud computing is gmail, google can lose a data center and your e-mail will continue to function as normal with probably no data loss.

The cloud is not everything on the internet.

Captain_Generic

Stiffler2 wrote: »

CLOUD COMPUTING
IS
A
SCAM

My god you're right, they don't use clouds at all!

ntlbell

laugh wrote: »

Cloud computing is gmail, google can lose a data center and your e-mail will continue to function as normal with probably no data loss.

The cloud is not everything on the internet.

so the cloud = fault-tolerance ?

your right this never existed before the "cloud"

Liam Byrne

So if your Internet connection is slow or goes down, or if you stop paying for it, you lose access to YOUR OWN stuff ?

No thanks!

P.S. It's nothing new - just a distributed version of the old mainframe/dumb terminal setup.

laugh

ntlbell wrote: »

so the cloud = fault-tolerance ?

your right this never existed before the "cloud"

Certainly not fault tolerance at the scale that is gmail.

dlofnep

I prefer the good old fashioned Information Super-highway!

Seachmall

laugh wrote: »

Cloud computing is gmail, google can lose a data center and your e-mail will continue to function as normal with probably no data loss.

The cloud is not everything on the internet.

laugh wrote: »

Certainly not fault tolerance at the scale that is gmail.

Redundancy is at the very core of the internet, it was a fundamental characteristic of the internet way back when it was first being conceived.

It is not an exclusive characteristic of "cloud computing".

bnt

Liam Byrne wrote: »

So if your Internet connection is slow or goes down, or if you stop paying for it, you lose access to YOUR OWN stuff?

Depends. Dropbox, for example, is a live sync/backup of data on your disk. If the Internet is N/A, your data is still on your disk.

Gmail? I use it in a browser, but you can set up a normal mail program like Outlook or Thunderbird to work with it - and then you can store your mail locally.

Google Docs? Up to you. Backing up a lot of documents at once is a doddle: select, right-click, Download. It will convert them all to Office formats where required, and zip them up nicely.

But when it comes to Facebook & other "social networking" ... is the rubbish on there even worth calling "data"? But then, Facebook is not "the cloud" anyway. :rolleyes:

Seachmall

bnt wrote: »

Gmail? I use it in a browser, but you can set up a normal mail program like Outlook or Thunderbird to work with it - and then you can store your mail locally.

Google Docs? Up to you. Backing up a lot of documents at once is a doddle: select, right-click, Download. It will convert them all to Office formats where required, and zip them up nicely.

You can get a Gmail app that works offline (to some extent anyway) and I believe they're working on a similar app for Google Docs.

That's something that sort of undermines their Chromebook/"everything in the cloud" approach but is obviously completely necessary in today's world.

laugh

Seachmall wrote: »

Redundancy is at the very core of the internet, it was a fundamental characteristic of the internet way back when it was first being conceived.

It is not an exclusive characteristic of "cloud computing".

There is a massive difference between redundancy in networking and in data. The way google stores and syncs data is at the core of the true concept of the cloud.

Seachmall

laugh wrote: »

There is a massive difference between redundancy in networking and in data. The way google stores and syncs data is at the core of the true concept of the cloud.

Redundant storage is also as old as the internet, and not ground-breaking.

"Cloud Computing" has nothing to do with how Google, or anyone else, stores their data.

laugh

Seachmall wrote: »

Redundant storage is also as old as the internet, and not ground-breaking.

"Cloud Computing" has nothing to do with how Google stores it's data.

Eh so redundancy of the kind that allows something like gmail or google docs to function has always existed? How google stores and syncs data has everything to do with "Cloud computing" was anybody talking about Cloud computing before they did? Did Amazon use the same techniques to provide ec2, s3, mapReduce services? Yes.

68Murph68

A lot of those in IT who are most strongly opposed to cloud computing are opposed because if/when it comes fully into operation a lot of their expertise/the reason for their job will disappear. That's not to say there arent downsides to cloud computing but a lot of the negatives being put out there are by those with vested interests in the status quo.

There is also a fair chunk of marketing hype attached to it, some of which is due to some companies just sticking the word cloud on stuff that is only somewhat related.

Ultimately it will come down to better performance/lower cost/ease of use - when a lot of stuff that is related to cloud computing is implemented it will make things much easier.

As for security a lot of people will say that storing your information in the cloud isnt safe. Personally I'd be a lot more comfortable dealing with a business that was using Amazon or Google's servers to store my data compared to having it stored on a standard company's own server.

The big companies like Amazon and Google have the top experts working 24/7 around the clock and take data security very seriously, whereas if your data is stored on a standard company's own server you are probably relying on the IT security skills of the company's own staff (who are unlikely to be of the top rank) in a company that probably doesn't have data security as a key priority.