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Kepler, Ivy Bridge Release Dates?

  • 15-02-2012 07:43PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭


    Howdy folks,

    Shall be upgrading soonish, and I'm wondering if anyone here knows when Ivy Bridge CPUs are due? I seem to remember reading April but can't find anything to back that up as fact.

    The first Kepler cards from Nvidia are released soon too, but I think they're the replacements for the 560s, rather than the high-end cards. Any news on when the 580 replacements are due?

    Thanks in advance!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    The mid-range NVIDIA stuff will be coming out first, yeah. By all accounts though, the 680/780 will be an absolute monster. Expensive though.

    http://en.expreview.com/2012/02/06/entire-nvidia-kepler-line-up-unearthed/20836.html

    As regards Ivy, I've heard things from March to May. The main one at the moment though seems to be April 8th.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Sasquatch76


    Bah. Reading today that IB won't be released in significant quantities til June :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,911 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Oh feck off, even higher price then ati with 600++ eu for single gpu card...

    40% increase in speed over 7970, sounds great, but 600eu ++ is way too much. :(

    500eu for 670...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    No it's not. 1x performance for €480 (7970) and 1.4x performance for €580 ($600 680, and that's worst-case) which normalises to 1x performance for €420. Not bad at all.

    Also, remember that these cards are still months off, and specs/pricing, etc. could change a lot in that time. (assuming any of this is right in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,911 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Might be right m8.


    Still would live to see how are they on power. Nvidia is not known to be very subtle in that manner :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Pangea


    What would be the ivybridge equivalent of say the i5 2500K and would it be around the same price as the i5 is now?
    I was willing to wait till April for a new PC, but if I have to wait to June then defiantly not waiting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,911 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Will there be any additional advantage of using avy over sandy with these new gen nvidia cards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    @Pangea: the 2500K equivalent is the i5 3570K. It has virtually identical specs, and should cost about the same - having the same launch price as the 2500K currently, though it might end up a little more expensive, as Sandy prices will drop a bit. What you're looking at is maybe a 10% increase clock-for-clock, which is basically the only difference. Oh, and power efficiency, updated IGP, etc.

    @Shadowhearth: Hard to say. I initially thought that PCI-E 3.0 wouldn't give much benefits as it's virtually unused bandwidth anyway, but giving how powerful these cards are looking on paper, the high-end ones might just need the extra throughput, requiring an Ivy Bridge chip. Too early to say really though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,911 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Do you really think those cards will saturate enough to have advantage of pic 3.0?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    What am I, an NVIDIA employee? :P I really haven't a clue. Given that a 580 SLI setup doesn't even saturate PCI-E 2.0, I'd say not. At least not for a single-GPU setup. Maybe, just maybe you'd benefit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,911 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Go and apply to nvidia, I will go apply ati then we will share a chamber and secrets :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 teflonbilly


    so for a little help on the CPU side, here is a great site.

    http://www.cpu-world.com/Releases/Desktop_CPU_releases_%282012%29.html

    As for teh gen 3.0 PCI-e, we don't need to worry about it on a single card, but with the limited number of PCI-e lanes, using PCIe 3 will allow for effectively 16x16 gen 2 lanes or 8x8x8 gen 2 lanes in 3 way sli. This is a huge plus for people using 3d vision or surround monitors like myself. I am really looking forward to these cards and the ivy bridge processors.

    I am hoping that they are only holding back ont eh mobile side of the ivy bridge launch, which based on the few articles I read seems to be what they are talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Sasquatch76


    Hearing there are potential delays to Kepler now, with low yields...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 teflonbilly


    I have heard that too, though they are from a little bit questionable sources. I will wait and see ont hat one. Don't need to upgrade really myself since I am running 2 580's with 3gig on water right now, but if the 680 is really amazing I might do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    I have heard that too, though they are from a little bit questionable sources. I will wait and see ont hat one. Don't need to upgrade really myself since I am running 2 580's with 3gig on water right now, but if the 680 is really amazing I might do it.

    I doubt there'll be a need. Even if it is as fantastic as all the hype (the same as before every launch) suggests, I don't think two overclocked 580s would loose to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 teflonbilly


    well I was toying with the idea of going to a 3 way sli on 680, with a new ivy bridge CPU and Mobo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Unless you really, really, really need / want that sort of power, I'd stick with SLI. Three-way SLI really doesn't scale that well yet. It's at the level SLI was at a few years ago. The odd game will make full use of it, but most of the time you're only using about 50% of the power of that third card, a lot of the time less.

    It also depends how well Kepler scales with SLI in general. Fermi was great; it was very modular, and the progression was relatively linear from one card to the next, but there's no guarantee Kepler will be the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 teflonbilly


    Its true, 3 way is generally a waste, but with 3 monitors I do tax graphics pretty hard, which is part of the reason I went to 3 gig cards rather than stock. But I haven't done it yet, and its only an idea. Have to see numbers before I do anything.


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