Internet Ethics?

SellingJuan

If someone downloads a song illegally but then watches the same song on youtube alot of times, does it make up for it?

Because the artist gets alot of revenue from people watching their video on youtube.

Just a thought.

* Youtube videos make alot of money on add revenue.

Remember the video with the dog running after some animals in a field and a farmer running after them, well that made £70,000 in 2 weeks!!

FatherLen

SellingJuan wrote: »

Because the artist gets alot of revenue from people watching their video on youtube.

they do?

joshrogan

If I download a car and watch ads for said car does it make up for it?

Logical Fallacy

SellingJuan wrote: »

If someone downloads a song illegally but then watches the same song on youtube alot of times, does it make up for it?

Because the artist gets alot of revenue from people watching their video on youtube.

Just a thought.

Depending on where you are streaming it takes anywhere from 1 million to 4 million plays to earn 1000 dollars for an artist.

Artists don't make **** from people watching their stuff on Youtube.

cloptrop

Advertising space is expensive. If you are going to have a million hits you could sell the ad space.
Thats how youtube works , them people that get a few milion hits make a few grand out of it.
I think the charlie bit my finger kids made 40000 grand in youtube advertising partnership at one stage , Id say its way more than that now.
Some people make a living doing stuff like guitar lesson videos and makeup tutorials.

AG2R

joshrogan wrote: »

If I download a car and watch ads for said car does it make up for it?

If you can do that i'll give you another car

cloptrop

joshrogan wrote: »

If I download a car and watch ads for said car does it make up for it?

Youd have to watch alot of car ads

AG2R wrote: »

If you can do that i'll give you another car

Our President for Life

Realistically though, if you've downloaded the song why would you then go and watch it on Youtube? I don't know about others, but my conscience certainly wouldn't bother me enough to put up with slow video downloads and a deluge of ads for the sake of ethically listening to a song.

If I felt that bad about it, I'd just buy the track instead to be honest.

PhlegmyMoses

The term "Internet ethics" is a paradox.

Logical Fallacy

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

The term "Internet ethics" is a paradox.

More of an oxymoron.

Did you know that piracy fuels terrorism?

Logical Fallacy

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

The term "Internet ethics" is a paradox.

More of an oxymoron.

You're an oxymoron.

Logical Fallacy

Deleted User wrote: »

You're an oxymoron.

Your face is an oxymoron!

Logical Fallacy

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

You're an oxymoron.

Your face is an oxymoron!

Yore ma :pac:

PhlegmyMoses

Deleted User wrote: »

You're an oxymoron.

Denied :mad:

AG2R

tbf in truth there is no such thing as Ethics on the Internet

Immaculate Pasta

Quite simply anyone who illegally downloads music or films should be hanged, drawn and quartered :cool:

I'm quite hung as it is, thank you very much.

Corkfeen

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

Quite simply anyone who illegally downloads music or films should be hanged, drawn and quartered :cool:

It'd be a great population control method. The world would literally drop in population by the billions.

Immaculate Pasta

Corkfeen wrote: »

It'd be a great population control method. The world would literally drop in population by the billions.

Haha perhaps it would. It's just a shame I wouldn't be around to see the new world

alphabeat

AG2R wrote: »

tbf in truth there is no such thing as Ethics on the Internet

Ten Commandments of Computer Ethics
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Created by the Computer Ethics Institute
(Please Cite the Computer Ethics Institute if you quote us)

[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif] [FONT=georgia, 'times new roman', serif]1. Thou Shalt Not Use A Computer To Harm Other People.

2. Thou Shalt Not Interfere With Other People’s Computer Work.

3. Thou Shalt Not Snoop Around In Other People’s Computer Files.

4. Thou Shalt Not Use A Computer To Steal.

5. Thou Shalt Not Use A Computer To Bear False Witness.

6. Thou Shalt Not Copy Or Use Proprietary Software For Which You have Not Paid.

7. Thou Shalt Not Use Other People’s Computer Resources Without Authorization Or Proper Compensation.

8. Thou Shalt Not Appropriate Other People’s Intellectual Output.

9. Thou Shalt Think About The Social Consequences Of The Program You Are Writing Or The System You Are Designing.

10. Thou Shalt Always Use A Computer In Ways That Insure Consideration And Respect For Your Fellow Humans.[/FONT]
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BeerDrinker

AG2R wrote: »

tbf in truth there is no such thing as Ethics on the Internet

I have to agree with this. Due to the anonymity of the internet.

Doc Ruby

alphabeat wrote: »

10. Thou Shalt Always Use A Computer In Ways That Insure Consideration And Respect For Your Fellow Humans.

Clearly not published by the spelling institute.

MickySticks

What's an oxymoron?

dxhound2005

MickySticks wrote: »

What's an oxymoron?

http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

26. Any topic can be turned into something totally unrelated.

kingtubby

I think its ethical just make sure and buy the product being advertised on the youtube page.

Lanaier

alphabeat wrote: »

Ten Commandments of Computer Ethics

So what's the point of having a computer then?
Change the commandments to things you can do, should be a bit shorter.

Actually, there are devices that print three dimensional objects now... printing spare car-parts is a very close possibility at the moment. For a whole care it's only a matter of time.

And yes, actually, I would download a car.... F.A.C.T.

Lanaier

Delicious irony I didn't know about:

The song in that anti-piracy "download a car" ad was...........yes, pirated.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/17275016947/anti-piracy-group-caught-pirating-song-anti-piracy-ad-corruption-scandal-erupts-response.shtml

smokedeels

Ethical music-downloading for me is 'I'll have a listen to your stuff and if it's good I'll buy it when I have the cash'

People just watch films to slag them off, that's why they are fine to steal.

wonderfulname

BeerDrinker wrote: »

I have to agree with this. Due to the anonymity of the internet.

I hate to break it to you, but unless you actually put a bit of effort in, it's anything but.

OP - Here's a question, why haven't the FBI siezed youtubes domain yet? I stream music off it from unofficial sources on a daily basis, it's a lot more likely it's existence has saved me from buying CDs than megavideo did DVDs, but it's acceptable? Explain those ethics.

BeerDrinker

wonderfulname wrote: »

I hate to break it to you, but unless you actually put a bit of effort in, it's anything but.

Maybe you took me the wrong way
I was referring to real world ethics verus internet ethics. (the hypocrisy like. when anonymity is brought into things)

For example, I could be the most quiet, seemingly nice and respectful person you could ever meet in the real world. My 'official' values could be never steal, don't be rude and be honest.... On the internet however I could be the biggest & rudest dick, who is into 'smut' porn & loves to bash black people thats what I meant by my post.

born2bwild

MickySticks wrote: »

What's an oxymoron?

A tracker mortgage is a contradiction in terms; it's a combination of the Greek words for 'sharp' and 'dull', in that order.

Irish Guitarist

SellingJuan wrote: »

* Youtube videos make alot of money on add revenue.

That doesn't matter if the video was uploaded by someone that doesn't own the rights to it.

In cases where the record company or artist upload a video they're just doing it to advertise an album or single.

If you feel that bad about illegally downloading something just spend €10.00 (or whatever it is) on the CD. If you actually enjoy watching a video thousands of times go ahead but you're kidding yourself if you think that it's going to help an artist make money.

Ellis Dee

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

Quite simply anyone who illegally downloads music or films should be hanged, drawn and quartered :cool:

--- live on the Internet, viewable for a small fee?:):)

jester77

OP, if you download something illegally then you should upload it back again. It's what being a good internet citizen is all about

policarp

MickySticks wrote: »

What's an oxymoron?

It's another term for Mad Cow Disease. . .

AeoNGriM

SellingJuan wrote: »

If someone downloads a song illegally but then watches the same song on youtube alot of times, does it make up for it?

Because the artist gets alot of revenue from people watching their video on youtube.

Just a thought.

* Youtube videos make alot of money on add revenue.

Remember the video with the dog running after some animals in a field and a farmer running after them, well that made £70,000 in 2 weeks!!

Not necessarily. The uploader gets paid per view, as long as ads are enabled but the uploader may not directly be the artist.

Tazium

^The uploader must claim that they have the copyright to enable the revenue sharing.