Northern Ireland prison service (now recruiting))

Ali99

Leave Sponsor bit blank. That is filled out by the NIPS who will be sponsoring your clearance.

Little Loki

Just emailed for my merit, got the little brown evvelope so not holding my breath, congrats to everyone within the 200 range!

weepete

I would just like to share a wee thought with everyone, was talking to a young girl tonight who was accepted into the PSNI but declined the offer, she did not state why though, which raises an issue me and the other NPM (Nearly PSNI Men/women) have encountered where people apply and progress further and further but have doubts or are not sure about taking the job while fill the merit pool. There is of course people who start training but realise the job is not for them, due to a long list of issues some of which are:-
Didnt know they would be working shifts
Didnt know they would be armed on duty
Didnt know they may be armed off duty
Didnt know they would have to wear a uniform.

I know this job in the NIPS is somewhat different from the PSNI but its not that far away, there is plenty of info of what to expect in this line of work from current and ex officers so take the time to read these and think about how much you want this job, its not easy and its a job for life, the fact that the NIPS hasn't held a recruitment drive on this scale for 20 years is proof enough i think. It's not a decision to take lightly but better to make sure now than when its too late.

wanadrum

Good Man weepete - encouraging people to free up spaces for me......

Little Loki

Gutted, 460-470, I kinna knew it though.

wanadrum

Here's hoping we both scrape in Little Loki - our merit places are very close!

Little Loki

I know that is random isn't it! On the bright side we were within the top 10%! It might count for something down the line!

weepete

wanadrum wrote: »

Good Man weepete - encouraging people to free up spaces for me......

Well i'd say i'm encouraging people just to make sure it's what they really want and aren't just in it for the challenge to see if they could make it.

At the risk of annoying people a wee thing i noticed was: At both of my PSNI IST's and at my NIPS IST i sorta got the feelin there was a few people there cause the man at the job centre told them to apply in order to keep there job seekers allowance (i hope that doesnt upset anyone on here, cause i think the people here are all genuine enough and are willing to put in the effort.). And if these people get through they then take up places above the cut-off point for the AC and then dont turn up for the AC, at both of my PSNI ACs at least 4 people didnt turn up on the day and i think 6 failed to make it to the NIPS AC, which delayed the whole thing cause the good folks of the recruitment branch held off to see if they would turn up, and while a little bit of me wants this to happen here, only so i get a chance to meet wanadrum and little loki, on the other hand i dont want people getting to this point and droppin out over a silly fact they did not know about like that you will be workin shift patterns, not only is it frustrating for the ones who just missed out but also for the recruitment team, i heard it rumoured that the last PSNI recruitment drive was so expensive that it worked out at £10,000 per officer that they actually employeed 400 officers X 10 grand = £4,000,000 but i think that includes the cost of the training period.

Rant over.

N.B. i do understand there is people who get offered the job and have very valid reasons for dropping out, with the lenght of the process other jobs may have come up or possible treats to their safety associated with the risk of the job may raise their heads from the comminity they live in etc.

weepete

wanadrum wrote: »

Here's hoping we both scrape in Little Loki - our merit places are very close!

Little Loki wrote: »

I know that is random isn't it! On the bright side we were within the top 10%! It might count for something down the line!

Well lads, if the recruitment branch is smart it'll keep all you good folks on stand by for if and when they need more officers, if tere is 500 leaving and they plan to streamline it and run it with fewer staff and they wanna cut out expensive overtime they may end up hiring close to 500 again, but in order to make this stage quickier they only wanna be dealing with 200 sets of vetting and medicals to do, get them into the college then work on the next set.

wanadrum

This kind of thing frustrates me too weepete - though not as much as those who actually accepted PSNI spaces but didn't turn up to GV. I'd rather someone drop out and let the next person on the list have their chance than the same person starting training without the commitment to follow it through.

I think you just want a GSD loving dog walking buddie.

Immagine getting paid to work with a GST.......would be a dream come true!

wanadrum

I think we do have a chance, but I'm trying not to build hopes up.

There will also be people where vetting and medical gets in their way.

Has there been any mention that you know of that there will be more recruitment than the 200 already mentioned?

weepete

wanadrum wrote: »

This kind of thing frustrates me too weepete - though not as much as those who actually accepted PSNI spaces but didn't turn up to GV. I'd rather someone drop out and let the next person on the list have their chance than the same person starting training without the commitment to follow it through.

I think you just want a GSD loving dog walking buddie.

Immagine getting paid to work with a GST.......would be a dream come true!

Thats it getting paid to do something you love, makes it almost not like work, i once had the pleasure of meeting a NIPS general purpose dog and a sniffer dog, the sniffer dog was just a bundle of energy, however the 16 stone general purpose german shepard who was able to look at me in the eye cause he rested his paws on my shoulders and actually chewed through rubber batton rounds was just great, scary as hell but once he sniffed me a bit we were best of friends.

Little Loki

i dare say that the little v=brown envelope gang are the reserves for future recruitment as it would be far too expensive to recruit again. At least that is a saving grace.

However if the police recruit again, even if I did get the job, I would apply just to give them a taste of their own medicine! lol

Not so nice is it NIPS!

Little Loki

weepete wrote: »

Thats it getting paid to do something you love, makes it almost not like work, i once had the pleasure of meeting a NIPS general purpose dog and a sniffer dog, the sniffer dog was just a bundle of energy, however the 16 stone general purpose german shepard who was able to look at me in the eye cause he rested his paws on my shoulders and actually chewed through rubber batton rounds was just great, scary as hell but once he sniffed me a bit we were best of friends.

Where were you again on the merit placing?

wanadrum

I bet everyone will apply to PSNI again - so there could be spaces in the NIPS as a result of PSNI recruitment......

I just want one of these jobs - they should give you extra points for resilience just because you keep trying......

Anyway, how did most of you end up with massively better merit placings than psni C16, yet mine got worse?

Shawsy

Ok I got word that I'm in the top 200 on the merit list and I got the big brown envelope so is say they are looking at the top 200 first and the little brown envelopes are the reserve list!

There are bound to be drop outs and ppl who fail the security and medical checks so I'll keep my fingers crossed for everyone

I have to say I'm so chuffed to have made the top 200-can't quite believe it!!

wanadrum

Can you edit your post to give a range rather than an exact placing?

The mods might remove the post otherwise.

weepete

Little Loki wrote: »

Where were you again on the merit placing?

Top ten loki,

weepete

wanadrum wrote: »

Can you edit your post to give a range rather than an exact placing?

The mods might remove the post otherwise.

Yea its a wee added security measure, i got scolded for almost reveling dates of the AC.

Little Loki

weepete wrote: »

Yea its a wee added security measure, i got scolded for almost reveling dates of the AC.

My god thats impressive! How does it fell to be in the top 0.02%!

If you averaged your and mine merit numbers i still wouldn't be in, lol!

weepete

Little Loki wrote: »

My god thats impressive! How does it fell to be in the top 0.02%!

If you averaged your and mine merit numbers i still wouldn't be in, lol!

It feels a little surreal to be honest considering i did so badly in my PSNI attempts. Wasnt overly confident as in the observation test there was 3 questions i wasnt too sure on one i know i got wrong, so that was a possible 20% of the marks dropped there and the written didnt care for it too much.

ShaneW1986

I sent my email to find out where I came merit wise yesterday and still no word back!?! How long did it take everyone else to hear back?

wanadrum

16mins

1967J

Merit score as promised 20/30 range so well impressed with myself - scored 220/230 in the last PSNI one recently - Now I need to get my ass in gear and complete all the additional paperwork and get it back 67j

1967J

ShaneW1986 wrote: »

I sent my email to find out where I came merit wise yesterday and still no word back!?! How long did it take everyone else to hear back?

Not as quick as wanna but within 2 hrs

wanadrum

At least you know you have veting and medical forms, so I'd guess your merit place is <250

wanadrum

Nice one 1967J - I bet you are well pleased with that placing.

Trex450

ShaneW1986 wrote: »

I sent my email to find out where I came merit wise yesterday and still no word back!?! How long did it take everyone else to hear back?

about 9mins here. Did you send to address on the letterhead or the one that Wanadrum posted a few pages back?

weepete

31 mins to hear back

hayes_1991

anyone know who is eligible to certify our ID's? Not much info on it, just says that you should provide a certified copy? e.g are nurses etc allowed to certify?

weepete

hayes_1991 wrote: »

anyone know who is eligible to certify our ID's? Not much info on it, just says that you should provide a certified copy? e.g are nurses etc allowed to certify?

Yes i rang yesterday if you handed in a copy at the AC you dont need it certified as they have it on file and certified it when they looked at you to make sure it was you, but i sent a copy, not certified anyway just incasey.

SJAG

Hey, Got my merit placing it is in the 460-480 range so was a little disappointed. I think it must have been very tight with regards to marks and the merit range.

Will be interested to see how this pans out then....

hayes_1991

Thanks weepete. Just trying to get it all done right the first time to save alot time, though earliest doc was available is next monday to fill out the immunity forms, nearly sure I had them done for the AC also.

euros1

hey guys just found this forum 10-20 in merit list - first 200 got forms to fill in.can't wait.have been trying 6 years for this

sydnor

euros1 wrote: »

hey guys just found this forum 10-20 in merit list - first 200 got forms to fill in.can't wait.have been trying 6 years for this

6 years? Were you in for the OSG's last time?

Also, congrats. Wish I was higher up the list, desperate to get started my owns self.

euros1

sydnor wrote: »

euros1 wrote: »

hey guys just found this forum 10-20 in merit list - first 200 got forms to fill in.can't wait.have been trying 6 years for this

6 years? Were you in for the OSG's last time?

Also, congrats. Wish I was higher up the list, desperate to get started my owns self.

Yeah in for ish and custody officer in court and night shift aswell. Thanks. Did u get threw ac

sydnor

euros1 wrote: »

Yeah in for ish and custody officer in court and night shift aswell. Thanks. Did u get threw ac

Damn! Well good to see your persistence paying off.

Yeah, I'm threw the AC and in the top 200, just closer to the 200 mark than yourself.

My first time applying for the NIPS myself although I wish I'd known about the OSG recruitment at the time it was going on.

sydnor

euros1 wrote: »

Yeah in for ish and custody officer in court and night shift aswell. Thanks. Did u get threw ac

Damn! Well good to see your persistence paying off.

Yeah, I'm through the AC and in the top 200, just closer to the 200 mark than yourself.

My first time applying for the NIPS myself although I wish I'd known about the OSG recruitment at the time it was going on.

euros1

Cheers yeah osg, custody officer in courts twice and night custody officer.was nearly giving up tbh

euros1

Just wondering how quick will salary go up to 23k.is it after u pass the nvq on custodial care

Cowtown

Hi folks!! Just found this thread! I'm also on the same boat as the small brown letter holders, gutted tbh! Just emailed to find out my merit score. Reading this has put a downer on my mood tonight grrrrr....:(

euros1

sydnor wrote: »

euros1 wrote: »

Yeah in for ish and custody officer in court and night shift aswell. Thanks. Did u get threw ac

Damn! Well good to see your persistence paying off.

Yeah, I'm through the AC and in the top 200, just closer to the 200 mark than yourself.

My first time applying for the NIPS myself although I wish I'd known about the OSG recruitment at the time it was going on.

First time - happy days. It was torture getting rejected everytime. This is all I have ever wanted to do.wasn't interested in psni recruitment

sydnor

euros1 wrote: »

First time - happy days. It was torture getting rejected everytime. This is all I have ever wanted to do.wasn't interested in psni recruitment

That's interesting. There's a fair few on here who've tried for the PSNI a few times.

To be honest getting in has always been a goal of mine too but it seemed they were never going to begin a new campaign after they recruited the OSG's.

Cowtown

Also my first time for either!

euros1

Cowtown wrote: »

Also my first time for either!

Hey cowtown, its very hard to get things like this first time as you don't know what to expect.u passed everything which is brilliant.my first time I failed ist.what range was ur merit number

euros1

sydnor wrote: »

euros1 wrote: »

First time - happy days. It was torture getting rejected everytime. This is all I have ever wanted to do.wasn't interested in psni recruitment

That's interesting. There's a fair few on here who've tried for the PSNI a few times.

To be honest getting in has always been a goal of mine too but it seemed they were never going to begin a new campaign after they recruited the OSG's.

Yeah its been ages.osg recruitment process was '08

Hammath1

Sent the email and It turns out I'm 240-250.

Not too bad but would be gutted if I missed it by 50 people.

And I got the wee white envelope telling
Me to wait...

wanadrum

I'd say you will get in - there are bound to be 50 who decide it's not for them or don's clear vetting/medicals.

My small envelope was brown.......wonder is there anything in the colour of the small envelopes?...

euros1

I found the group exercise the hardest.observation video was very interesting which I thought helped.

What do you guys think

weepete

euros1 wrote: »

I found the group exercise the hardest.observation video was very interesting which I thought helped.

What do you guys think

I found the video the best group was ok and written the worst but must of done ok in it, but i think your IST result comes into play when a large group of people get the same score in the AC