John Gilligan gets 6 more months

Stiffler2

John Gilligan gets 6 more months on his sentance for having a mobile phone !


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Convicted drug dealer John Gilligan has been given a further six-month prison sentence by the Special Criminal Court after he pleaded guilty to possession of a mobile phone at Portlaoise District Court in 2010.

Gilligan was due for release from prison in April next year but today the court handed him a consecutive six month sentence.

Gilligan, 59, whose address was given as "care of Portlaoise Prison", pleaded guilty to possession of a "mobile telecommunications device" whilst in lawful custody at Portlaoise District Court on 30 March, 2010.

The native of Ballyfermot, Dublin was cleared in 2001 of the murder of journalist Veronica Guerin in June 1996.

However, he was convicted by the Special Criminal Court in March 2001 of 11 offences of unlawfully importing cannabis resin into the State on various dates between 1 July, 1994 and 6 October, 1996, and unlawful possession of cannabis resin for sale or supply on the same dates.

Gilligan was originally sentenced to 28 years in prison for the drugs offences, but this was reduced to 20 years on appeal.
He was also convicted in June 2002 of threatening to kill two prison officers in March 2001 and was given a two year prison sentence to run consecutively after the 20 years sentence.


In March last year he was also given an eight month prison sentence at Portlaoise District Court for having a Nokia mobile phone in his cell at Portlaoise Prison on 30 July, 2008.

Detective Garda Pat Scully told the court that during his trial at Portlaoise District Court in 2010 Gilligan, who was defending himself, was seen by gardai rooting in a shopping bag which contained his legal documents.

He was seen to detach something from underneath the bench and to drop it in the bag. When Gilligan was searched by prison staff a mobile phone was retrieved from the shopping bag.

He was interviewed by gardaí about the mobile phone and he told them that he believed that when he was in court, the Prisons Act did not apply and he had not broken the law.

He told gardaí that he intended to use the phone to contact his solicitor and then he was going to break it up.
Detective Garda Scully said that the earliest date for Gilligan's release from prison is April 2013.

Cross examined by Gilligan's counsel, Mr John Peart SC, Det Gda Scully agreed that John Gilligan had already been dealt with by the prison governor for having the mobile phone in court and had been given 60 days in the segregation unit with loss of privileges.

Mr Peart told the court that Gilligan has spent many years in prison and while in prison four members of his family have died.
Mr Justice Paul Butler, presiding, said that the court had no experience of dealing with the offence but the Oireachtas has fixed a maximum of five years imprisonment for the charge.

He said that the court took the view that any sanction imposed must mean something to the accused to discourage others from committing the same offence and in the circumstances the court sentenced him to six months imprisonment to start from the conclusion of his current sentence

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Wow - a judge actually handed out a sentance to a criminal for having a mobile phone in the jail cell - I am truly shocked.

I would expect this kind of thing in the US but here ??

Hopefully this is a sign that things are changing - justice wise ( but we all know they won't )

Other thoughts - Gilligan will be back on the street in early 2013.
Who are his rivals, Dundon ?

Dundon v's Gilligan - who will win the streets back ?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

If he got twenty years it 2001, why is he due out now? I'm assuming, having gotten further convitions for threatingt guards and possession of a mobile. good beahviou has gone out the window?

RichieC

sucks we have to let them back out.

davet82

Stiffler2 wrote: »

Dundon v's Gilligan - who will win the streets back ?

i got 8/1 on gilligan in paddy powers earlier today

Ikky Poo2

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

If he got twenty years it 2001, why is he due out now? I'm assuming, having gotten further convitions for threatingt guards and possession of a mobile. good beahviou has gone out the window?

He actually got 28 years iirc.

I think it was cut by 8 on appeal or something and then obviously cut again.

What a joke.

SEPT 23 1989

Stiffler2 wrote: »

Who are his rivals,

Bananaman

stupidusername

WTF, when was he actually convicted? shouldn't it be 22 years and 6 months from that day? (minus time spent in custody before trial)

davet82

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Bananaman

ah bollix, if i had of known, i would have put me money on him

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

davet82 wrote: »

ah bollix, if i had of known, i would have put me money on him

Bananaman is the good guy. Appleman is where the smart money is.

walrusgumble

Stiffler2 wrote: »

John Gilligan gets 6 more months on his sentance for having a mobile phone !


Quote:

Convicted drug dealer John Gilligan has been given a further six-month prison sentence by the Special Criminal Court after he pleaded guilty to possession of a mobile phone at Portlaoise District Court in 2010.

Gilligan was due for release from prison in April next year but today the court handed him a consecutive six month sentence.

Gilligan, 59, whose address was given as "care of Portlaoise Prison", pleaded guilty to possession of a "mobile telecommunications device" whilst in lawful custody at Portlaoise District Court on 30 March, 2010.

The native of Ballyfermot, Dublin was cleared in 2001 of the murder of journalist Veronica Guerin in June 1996.

However, he was convicted by the Special Criminal Court in March 2001 of 11 offences of unlawfully importing cannabis resin into the State on various dates between 1 July, 1994 and 6 October, 1996, and unlawful possession of cannabis resin for sale or supply on the same dates.

Gilligan was originally sentenced to 28 years in prison for the drugs offences, but this was reduced to 20 years on appeal.
He was also convicted in June 2002 of threatening to kill two prison officers in March 2001 and was given a two year prison sentence to run consecutively after the 20 years sentence.


In March last year he was also given an eight month prison sentence at Portlaoise District Court for having a Nokia mobile phone in his cell at Portlaoise Prison on 30 July, 2008.

Detective Garda Pat Scully told the court that during his trial at Portlaoise District Court in 2010 Gilligan, who was defending himself, was seen by gardai rooting in a shopping bag which contained his legal documents.

He was seen to detach something from underneath the bench and to drop it in the bag. When Gilligan was searched by prison staff a mobile phone was retrieved from the shopping bag.

He was interviewed by gardaí about the mobile phone and he told them that he believed that when he was in court, the Prisons Act did not apply and he had not broken the law.

He told gardaí that he intended to use the phone to contact his solicitor and then he was going to break it up.
Detective Garda Scully said that the earliest date for Gilligan's release from prison is April 2013.

Cross examined by Gilligan's counsel, Mr John Peart SC, Det Gda Scully agreed that John Gilligan had already been dealt with by the prison governor for having the mobile phone in court and had been given 60 days in the segregation unit with loss of privileges.

Mr Peart told the court that Gilligan has spent many years in prison and while in prison four members of his family have died.
Mr Justice Paul Butler, presiding, said that the court had no experience of dealing with the offence but the Oireachtas has fixed a maximum of five years imprisonment for the charge.

He said that the court took the view that any sanction imposed must mean something to the accused to discourage others from committing the same offence and in the circumstances the court sentenced him to six months imprisonment to start from the conclusion of his current sentence

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Wow - a judge actually handed out a sentance to a criminal for having a mobile phone in the jail cell - I am truly shocked.

I would expect this kind of thing in the US but here ??

Hopefully this is a sign that things are changing - justice wise ( but we all know they won't )

Other thoughts - Gilligan will be back on the street in early 2013.
Who are his rivals, Dundon ?

Dundon v's Gilligan - who will win the streets back ?

I would imagine that Gilligan will no longer be the player he once was. The Dundon's wouldn't be afraid of him, they are just as mad.

Remember the Dunne's in the 1980's. THey said that the next generation would be lunatics, ie Gilligan. And people like Gilligan said the next generation would make his lot look like angels. I wonder will the media be as brave in following Gilligan around when he is released. I sincerely hope people in Ireland shun Gilligan , hopefully he will **** off out of Ireland (but no one will allow him in)

Jesus time flies, that his time in Prison is soon up.

longshanks

How is he getting out in 2013 when the earliest he should be released is 2021, according to the report in the op?

Captain Darling

Was the sentence back dated to when he was originally detained? Maybe that would explain him getting out early?

GAAman

stupidusername wrote: »

WTF, when was he actually convicted? shouldn't it be 22 years and 6 months from that day? (minus time spent in custody before trial)

longshanks wrote: »

How is he getting out in 2013 when the earliest he should be released is 2021, according to the report in the op?

Simply put in four words: The Irish "Judicial" System

Liamario

Convicted of having a mobile phone in prison. Don't doubt for a second that the prison wardens were well aware he had a phone and had seen him use it as well.
And they did nothing.

Run_to_da_hills

Liamario wrote: »

Convicted of having a mobile phone in prison. Don't doubt for a second that the prison wardens were well aware he had a phone and had seen him use it as well.
And they did nothing.

That's where he probably sourced it.

johnners2981

http://www.rte.ie/news/2001/0315/gilligan.html

So out of a 28 year sentence he serves 11 years and gets another 6 months for being naughty.
What is the point in these sentences when they are never carried out.

Run_to_da_hills

johnners2981 wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2001/0315/gilligan.html

So out of a 28 year sentence he serves 11 years and gets another 6 months for being naughty.
What is the point in these sentences when they are never carried out.

They are usually handed a sentense and will get anything up to 30% off if they are good. Gives them a more incentive not to act the maggot inside.

Biggins

I'm deeply suspicious that when he gets out he's just going to lead the life of a guy on the straight and narrow.
I've no doubts that he's still up to his eyeballs in illegal antics. Others are just doing his further bidding.
The Gardi have just to piece all the connections and evidence together sufficient that it would stand up in court!

dartsfan

He was probably in jail for a few years prior to the trial

blackwhite

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They are usually handed a sentense and will get anything up to 30% off if they are good. Gives them a more incentive not to act the maggot inside.

Surely it should be a case of serve the sentence in full, and have additional time added on if you don't behave.

Or would that make too much sense to be implemented here?

lividduck

blackwhite wrote: »

Surely it should be a case of serve the sentence in full, and have additional time added on if you don't behave.

Or would that make too much sense to be implemented here?

Well, its not implemented anywhere. The point is the Gilligan has NOT been of good behaviour and so should not qualify for the 25% standard remission rate.

Run_to_da_hills

He will be in for a big shock when he gets out and sees the state of the economy. More than likely he will end up in a single bedroom flat on the dole. What assets dose he actually own? Who would give him a job and would he be legally allowed set up his own business again? If he dose he would be watched like a hawk.

Sunnyisland

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

He will be in for a big shock when he gets out and sees the state of the economy. More than likely he will end up in a single bedroom flat on the dole. Who would give him a job and would he be legally allowed set up his own business again? If he dose he would be watched like a hawk.

Wouldn't think he be hanging about here at all,Sure he will head over to his pub and apartments in Spain,His pub is called the Judges chambers :rolleyes:

johnners2981

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They are usually handed a sentense and will get anything up to 30% off if they are good. Gives them a more incentive not to act the maggot inside.

But he did act the maggot by not complying with the rules, this isn't the first time either he's been caught with a mobile. In 2011 he got another 8 months.
So with an original sentence of 28 years, cut to 20 years, multiple extra sentences for use of his mobile in his cell that got him at least an extra 14 months and he gets out in 12 years.

He must be extremely well behaved because that is way over the 30% off if they're good

Biggins

realies wrote: »

Wouldn't think he be hanging about here at all, Sure he will head over to his pub and apartments in Spain, His pub is called the Judges chambers :rolleyes:

Can he travel as soon as he gets out? Would he be allowed a passport so soon?
Would he not be on 'probation' as such for a while? ...And might this restrict his travel abilities?
Would Spain allow him to travel there now knowing his recent past and convictions?

Questions I don't know the answer to myself so would be interested to hear what the eventual outlook might be when he does get out!

Sunnyisland

Biggins wrote: »

Can he travel as soon as he gets out? Would he be allowed a passport so soon?
Would he not be on 'probation' as such for a while? ...And might this restrict his travel abilities?
Would Spain allow him to travel there now knowing his recent past and convictions?

Questions I don't know the answer to myself so would be interested to hear what the eventual outlook might be when he does get out!

As far as I know biggins and I am asuming that as Spain is in the EU and he has served his sentence he is free to go anywhere in Europe he likes, like larry murphy did.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

realies wrote: »

As far as I know biggins and I am asuming that as Spain is in the EU and he has served his sentence he is free to go anywhere in Europe he likes, like larry murphy did.

Depends on the terms of his realease, he may well still be subject to a period of probation.

Run_to_da_hills

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Depends on the terms of his realease, he may well still be subject to a period of probation.

Murphy didn't seem to get any period of probation and was not long getting on the boat.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Murphy didn't seem to get any period of probation and was not long getting on the boat.

Not sure. As far as I know, he was subjected to police visits beforehand. The police also forwarded inofromation to their Spanish counterparts. Read in the Indo (I know, I know) that he was under police surveillance in Amswerdam too.

The option is there, though, whether it's implemented or not.

saywhatyousee

The 20 year sentence was from 1996 not 2001.His original sentence was extremely harsh as well 28 years from importing hash:eek:

Guy:Incognito

saywhatyousee wrote: »

His original sentence was extremely harsh as well 28 years from importing hash:eek:

Hes wasnt caught coming through the airport with 1/8th in his bag.

saywhatyousee

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Hes wasnt caught coming through the airport with 1/8th in his bag.

True put there have been cases of people being caught with 10-15 millions worth of heroin and only getting 10 years

Sunnyisland

say what you see wrote: »

The 20 year sentence was from 1996 not 2001.His original sentence was extremely harsh as well 28 years from importing hash:eek:

But we all know that he was really sentenced for organising the murder of veronica guerin and not the Importation of hash.

johnners2981

saywhatyousee wrote: »

The 20 year sentence was from 1996 not 2001.His original sentence was extremely harsh as well 28 years from importing hash:eek:

No his sentence began in march 2001

Sunnyisland

johnners 2981 wrote: »

No his sentence began in march 2001

He was in custody in england from 96,That would be taken into account when reviewing his parole.

johnners2981

realies wrote: »

He was in custody in england from 96,That would be taken into account when reviewing his parole.

Maybe so but wasn't he supposed to serve an additional 5 years too for threatening to kill two prison officers, what happened that

twowheelsonly

Liamario wrote: »

Convicted of having a mobile phone in prison. Don't doubt for a second that the prison wardens were well aware he had a phone and had seen him use it as well.
And they did nothing.

Did you read the report or just the first line??
He picked the phone up in court and was subsequently searched and the phone recovered.

Have a read of this article - 15,000 Contraband Items seized in the past 2 years, but don't let that stand in the way of your cheap snide remarks..

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/figures-show-thousands-of-contraband-items-seized-in-irish-prisons-540169.html

Sunnyisland

johnners 2981 wrote: »

Maybe so but wasn't he supposed to serve an additional 5 years too for threatening to kill two prison officers, what happened that

I am guessing here but I suspect that it was a concurrent sentence which meant it was ran into his already serving sentence.

twowheelsonly

johnners2981 wrote: »

Maybe so but wasn't he supposed to serve an additional 5 years too for threatening to kill two prison officers, what happened that

Two years I think???

FGR

stupidusername wrote: »

WTF, when was he actually convicted? shouldn't it be 22 years and 6 months from that day? (minus time spent in custody before trial)

Unfortunately the Justice System in this country frowns upon Judges who issue consecutive sentences. 99.9% of sentencing, as such, runs concurrently with whatever else they're serving.

It's a great 'incentive' for the criminal to commit a lot of crime while waiting for their big trial - knowing all penalties will be served together.

Guy:Incognito

realies wrote: »

I am guessing here but I suspect that it was a concurrent sentence which meant it was ran into his already serving sentence.

Concurrent sentences are stupid and pointless. If your going down theres no reason ot to commit a few more crimes first seeing as you'll be serving them all at the same time.

Patrick2010

Seems like theres no incentive in behaving yourself in prison as in that any sentence you get for bad behavior will be served concurrently with your existing sentence. Its bizarre that he'll be getting out early given his threats to kill prison officers.

lividduck

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Depends on the terms of his realease, he may well still be subject to a period of probation.

No, once he is released he is free and clear, personally I think he should have got life, that way if he ever was released it would be on licience and conditional. He is one evil bast*rd

Liam Byrne

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

johnners2981 wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2001/0315/gilligan.html

So out of a 28 year sentence he serves 11 years and gets another 6 months for being naughty.
What is the point in these sentences when they are never carried out.

They are usually handed a sentense and will get anything up to 30% off if they are good. Gives them a more incentive not to act the maggot inside.

11/28 = 39% SERVED

That's 61% OFF, which is an absolute disgrace and would be a joke if it weren't letting thugs and low-likes back into out society.

Sunnyisland

lividduck wrote: »

No, once he is released he is free and clear, personally I think he should have got life, that way if he ever was released it would be on licence and conditional. He is one evil bast*rd

Has has been said earlies in this thread he was convicted of importing cannabis, A drug many many people would like to see legalised,why should he have gotten life ?

woodoo

He won't hang around Dublin long after release. The papers will be all over him. He will go to Spain i'd guess.

Patrick2010

realies wrote: »

Has has been said earlies in this thread he was convicted of importing cannabis, A drug many many people would like to see legalised,why should he have gotten life ?

For the murder of a woman?

Sunnyisland

Patrick2010 wrote: »

For the murder of a woman?

He was found not guilty of murder or any anything else to do with the horrible murder of veronica gerren by the courts of this land, He was found guilty on Importing cannabis and initially got 28 years.

RichieC

My mate says he's a bit of a joke in the prisons now, youngfellas shouting abuse at him ect..

Patrick2010

realies wrote: »

He was found not guilty of murder or any anything else to do with the horrible murder of veronica gerren by the courts of this land, He was found guilty on Importing cannabis and initially got 28 years.

Obviously I know that, but everyone knows he was behind her murder, do you doubt it?

Sunnyisland

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Obviously I know that, but everyone knows he was behind her murder, do you doubt it?

Its not up to anybody or everybody or what I think,Its up to the law of the land and the courts, Gilligan was tried and acquitted of the murder .You cant or imo should not have people in court on one charge and for that person to get sentenced on another.