Top Managers Moving On This Summer Thread

mike65

This is obviously somewhat speculative but that shouldn't stop anyone discussing which of the following names will be sacked/resigned/retired by the start of next season

Harry Redknapp
Andre Villas-Boas
Arsene Wenger
Kenny Dalglish
David Moyes
and
Jose Mourinho

All of the above could be elsewhere for the start of 2012/13, it seems fair to assume Redknapp will be the next full time England manager, AVB is finding life at the Bridge far tougher than he might have expected will Roman Abramovich stick with him and allow him to spend the money reshaping the squad if the fan base starts to turn in a meaningful way?

Wenger is somewhat further down this road with increasing disquiet and his team re-building never ending (RvP next to be replaced?), not showing any remote sign maturing into anything.

Dalglish after a bright start has bought pricey under-performers and put pressure on himself with the Suarez saga. The owners stated Top 4 was required but a cup might be the most they will see.

David Moyes is a man at a club that can never match his quality with money so at what point does he move on?

Finally the Special One will surely exit Madrid having won La Liga (or indeed if he doesn't win La Liga!) and has clearly indicated a return to England is likely.

EdenHazard

What I don't get is Everton have a class first 11 how did Moyes get it without money? He's just constantly made bad investments on strikers, if he had bought a good one they'd have been a shout for top 4 at some stage in last 5 years(before City and Spurs got good)

G.K.

Guardiola

killwill

Mourinho

I agree that Harry Redknapp will probably take the English job. I personally think he is crazy to. He will get more out of the players than the last few managers.

I think Mourinho will only leave if he does the league/CL double this season. It looks like the league is wrapped up but I think he will want the CL more.
However, if he does want to go to England again, Spurs would be a great opportunity. Great squad, money, great city and possibly CL football.

I would love to see Moyes get a job where he has some money to spend. He is a top class manager but he seems very loyal to Everton Football Club.

As far as Dalglish goes, I think the owners will give him 1 more season but with less money to splash. He has stabilised the club somewhat, and considering how long he was out of management, that has to be commended but I think he has brought LFC as far as he can.

kevohmsford

Redknapp and Mourinho are the obvious ones. Moyes has done a great job at Everton. Will be interesting to see what happens with Dalglish. Liverpool's owners said at the start of the season they would be very disappointed if Liverpool finished outside the top 4 again.

That_Guy

Dalglish + Top Manager = Does Not Compute

amiable

Dalglish

That_Guy wrote: »

Dalglish + Top Manager = Does Not Compute

4 League titles one of which was a double winning season

mike65

That_Guy wrote: »

Dalglish + Top Manager = Does Not Compute

slow hand clap for That_Guy :rolleyes:

Mr Alan

amiable wrote: »

4 League titles one of which was a double winning season

League titles with two different clubs.

The only manager in England ever to do so.

People really should show a bit of respect :cool:

Mikeyt086

amiable wrote: »

4 League titles one of which was a double winning season

mike65 wrote: »

slow hand clap for That_Guy :rolleyes:

Mr Alan wrote: »

League titles with two different clubs.

The only manager in England ever to do so.

People really should show a bit of respect :cool:

On the defensive straight away, just like Kenny.

I'm surprised they claimed they never saw the post in the first place! :pac:

Hangballlouie

Mr Alan wrote: »

League titles with two different clubs.

The only manager in England ever to do so.

People really should show a bit of respect :cool:

I'm a Liverpool fan but that's not true. Cloughie did it too

amiable

Dalglish

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

On the defensive straight away, just like Kenny.

I'm surprised they claimed they never saw the post in the first place! :pac:

Yes. Yes that's why I post on Boards. To defend Kenny. Well done you.

Dalglish

All these threads seem to evolve into the same subject.

Suarez anyone?

ricero

Dalglish

i would not be surprised if kenny and liverpool were still to clinch 4th and even if they didnt i think he would get an other season . i think that if Chelsea dont finish 4th then AVB is finished and the same goes for Wenger at arsenal

Professional Griefer

Dalglish

rarnes1 wrote: »

All these threads seem to evolve into the same subject.

Suarez anyone?

Just wait for Niallo27 or whatever his name is. Evra this, evra that.

mike65

Okay if a mod sees this thread feel free to close it.

Fenian Army

Mourinho

Arry will leave and I reckon Spurs will try to get Moyes.

amiable

Dalglish

AVB just 5/2 to be sacked by Chelsea by midnight with Ladbrokes. He's now odds-on at 1/2 to be next manager to go

tolosenc

Moyes

Harry to England, Guardiola to Spurs, Moyes to Arsenal, Wenger to elsewhere,

Washington Irving

Dalglish

tolosenc wrote: »

Harry to England, Guardiola to Spurs, Moyes to Arsenal, Wenger to elsewhere,

...Wenger to Liverpool, AVB to Everton, Dalglish to Barcelona, Capello to Chelsea

killwill

Mourinho

mike65 wrote: »

Okay if a mod sees this thread feel free to close it.

A potentially good thread ruined by the usual nonsense.
This can't go on for much longer.
The Suarez/Evra thing should be put to bed, at least til next season when they meet again!
The tit for tat, which I am often guilty of too, is beyond a joke now.

amiable

Dalglish

killwill wrote: »

A potentially good thread ruined by the usual nonsense.
This can't go on for much longer.
The Suarez/Evra thing should be put to bed, at least til next season when they meet again!
The tit for tat, which I am often guilty of too, is beyond a joke now.

But Suarez will be at Liverpool next season

CongoPowers

Guardiola will sign an extension with Barça before the end of the season. Said he wouldn't go straight to another club anyway.

That_Guy

Jaysus I was taking the piss FFS. No need to get so fúcking precious.

cson

Arsene Wenger will go when Arsene Wenger wants to go. The board clearly back him and while we don't know whats going on behind the scenes he does espouse their ideology.

To be honest; for me he's earned the right to go when he wants. The man has some huge faults but he's also presided over a hugely successful period for the club and latterly the transition to a new stadium which will see the club debt free in 5-10 years.

We may not have pulled up any trees in the last 7 years or so but we've got a fantastic foundation going forward and if/when the oil barons get fed up of their Chelsea and City playthings then we're well poised to renew rivalries with United.

Its all about perspective tbh.

As for the rest; it seems to be coming to the point where Roman Abramovich has to decide whether he can stomach writing off £65m worth of investment in Chelsea in terms of AVB and Torres. I like AVB and think he should get another season but I doubt I'd be as patient having fopped out £15m on him. Depends on whether Chelsea get 4th imo.

Harry will stick with Spurs; he's brought that project too far at this stage to ditch it I think.

Kenny is gone I think. He had the summer to get he squad sorted and didn't do it. I don't think he's good enough to bring Liverpool forward anyway.

And Pep to battle with Jose next season again.

Mr.Nice Guy

I have a feeling Fergie will walk off into the sunset if United clinch the title this year. I think he remembers last time when he announced his retirement in advance and the negative effect that had so I exect his departure to be sudden and dramatic. That might pave the way for a move by Mourinho if he's fed up of Madrid's circus.

killwill

Mourinho

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I have a feeling Fergie will walk off into the sunset if United clinch the title this year. I think he remembers last time when he announced his retirement in advance and the negative effect that had so I exect his departure to be sudden and dramatic. That might pave the way for a move by Mourinho if he's fed up of Madrid's circus.

If this was the case for SAF, last season would have been the ideal time for him, considering the milestone of league titles and all.

I think he will stay until he feels he cannot contribute anymore or as he says himself until his health starts to deteriorate.

gnfnrhead

I dont see Fergie walking away from the new challenge that is Man City. He wouldnt want to be seen as backing away from a challenge, especially not City. I reckon only Liverpool would fire him up more and convince him to stay for at least another two or three years to ensure United are firmly on top. I'll be very shocked if he leaves.

Unless Arsenal continue to have nights like mid week against Milan, I cant see Wenger going either. He'll be confidant enough that he can rebuild assuming that sort of performance doesnt become the norm.

For Chelsea, I said it in the Chelsea thread recently that they would be mad to sack AVB. He is a quality manager who has the potential to be great. Sacking him this soon would be a big mistake and would only serve to damage Chelsea even more. Give him next season to prove himself before making any decisions on him.

Everton, I reckon Moyes has a job for life if he wants it. The only way I can see him leaving is if someone like Man United came knocking. It'd have to be a job like that to convince him to leave.

Mourinho and Pep I think will stay for at least one more season. Madrid look like winning the league, Pep wont want to leave like that. Mourinho meanwhile will relish getting one over on Barca and would want to do it again but by actually beating them in a match this time. If he wins the Champions League too and an attractive job opens up somewhere else, he might be tempted to leave on the highest of highs. Otherwise they both stay for me.

That leaves Harry and Kenny.

Harry is getting on in years and probably wont get another shot at the England job. It seems like something he really wants so I'm expecting him to take it... and stay on at Spurs for at least one more season. After that, he might decide he's had enough of day to day management and just focuses on England until he retires.

Kenny is the tough one. The majority of the Liverpool fans and players appear to love him, but, he seems to have hit a wall and is having a hard time getting past it. I think he'll still be there next season, but that may very well be his last if Liverpool dont get back into the Champions League spots.

Basically, Harry is the only major job change I see and thats just taking another one on rather than leaving his current position. Everyone else stays where they are for another year, at least.

steelcityblues

Mourinho

I think David Moyes is the most obvious one.

Done all he can at Everton, and needs a new challenge.

Blatter

Mourinho

Harry Redknapp - Yes. The FA want him, the fans want him, the players want him. It's always been an ambition of his to manage England. The shoe fits, he'll be the next England manager.


Andre Villas-Boas - No, I think he'll still be there. There'll be a big question mark if they don't finish top 4, but I think they will. He has the talent, he has the potential, RA must be sick of sacking managers at this stage. He'll have the Summer where there'll be a clear out and he'll be given the chance to bring his own players in.

Arsene Wenger - Yes. I think he'll leave. I don't think he has he heart to continue on at Arsenal. A fresh start would do him the world of good. I could see him getting the Real or Barca job if either became available.

Kenny Dalglish - No, he'll still be there. The Carling Cup (presuming he wins it) will make it impossible for him to be sacked and will give him the belief that he can do a good job there. I don't think he will take Liverpool where they want to go, they'd be far better off getting a more modern manager in, but they won't. Not in the Summer anyway.

David Moyes - Maybe. Think he has a great chance of the Tottenham job.

Jose Mourinho - Don't have a clue. Obviously there has been a fair bit of noise about him leaving. I don't trust the journalist that broke the news - Duncan Castles. I remember he was peddling inaccurate rumours on Sneijder in the Summer, he's unreliable imo.

It wouldn't surprise me if Jose was still at Real next season. It's hard to comment either way tbh.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Mourinho

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I have a feeling Fergie will walk off into the sunset if United clinch the title this year. I think he remembers last time when he announced his retirement in advance and the negative effect that had so I exect his departure to be sudden and dramatic. That might pave the way for a move by Mourinho if he's fed up of Madrid's circus.

Can't see him leaving after such a bad showing in the CL.

eagle eye

Villa-Boas is probably gone if he doesn't get in the Champion's League. I don't think any of the others will go anywhere. It seemed to me in recent interviews that Harry Redknapp would like to stay where he is.

everdead.ie

I'd love to see Chris Hughton take over from Harry in the summer but I don't think he's ready for the job yet. I think Harrys gone tbh.

I think Dalglish won't be fired and I don't think he'll walk but his transfers have been very questionable so far.

Wenger won't be fired but he should go and let someone freshen up the squad as he doesn't look able to do it.

cgpg5

Moyes

Harry is a cert imo and I see Mourinho replacing him.

Don't think Chelsea will get 4th and as a result AVB will be gone surely.

Can see Wenger leaving of his own accord in the summer too.

Optimalprimerib

amiable wrote: »

That_Guy wrote: »

Dalglish + Top Manager = Does Not Compute

4 League titles one of which was a double winning season

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you.... DON MCLEAN

"a long, long time ago, I can still remember....."

Bounty Hunter

Although Liverpool could surprise me considering how utterly Sh!te Chelsea/Arsenal have been this season by their own standards this is how I see the league finishing atm.

1. Man City
2. Man Utd
3. Spurs
4. Chelsea
5. Arsenal
6. Liverpool

Fergie wont leave as City became the new challenge and after a poor CL campaign.

Harry will go to England.

Replacing Harry at Spurs will imo be a hig profile manager as Spurs have a lot to offer, financially, location and squad wise. Mourinho would be an obvious possibility depending on how things continue to develop in Madrid. I get the feeling Capello who others may mention might not want anything to do with England anymore though.

AVB will stay as Chelsea manager once they get 4th imo as one they need badly is continuity and the chance to finally not just be working with Mourinho's left overs having given a manager a chance to create his own squad.

Wenger is a tough one as I wouldnt be shocked to see him step aside but think he will want one last crack at getting Arsenal back into the CL spots or bringing silverware to the emirates and tbh I dont think the board will get rid of him this season.

Daglish wont go either imo especially if he can do something like winning the cup this year but wether he will bring Liverpool back to where the fans expect them to be is a different thing and one I think any manager might struggle with considering the level of competition atm.

Moyes imo will only leave if one of these other clubs come looking for him and Everton dont object to him going (as they would with Liverpool id imagine). He is loyal to Everton and imo would consider a move to anywhere other than those mentioned as a side step though Spurs could be an option if they dont get a Mourinho type figure but for some reason I dont see it.

kryogen

Mourinho

This thread has made me laugh twice now, easily my favorite thread of the day so far, ignoring the usual rubbish posted I have read that Guardiola will go to Spurs, or Mourinho will go to Spurs to replace Harry.

Brilliance!

I'm always amazed when people dont stop to think..........why? Simply why?

Guardiola, will most likely sign on for Barca, as he does every year, or will take a little break, after that I can only see him going to a top European club. Maybe even the national team, but why would he want to go to Spurs?

Mourinho, will win the league this season and may want to high tail it so as he doesnt have to fend off the challenge of a wounded Barca next season, if thats the case, he could have his choice of jobs, or could take a break, which he should do imo, and again, why would he want to go to Spurs when he will have the choice of practically any job in football?

cgpg5

Moyes

kryogen wrote: »

This thread has made me laugh twice now, easily my favorite thread of the day so far, ignoring the usual rubbish posted I have read that Guardiola will go to Spurs, or Mourinho will go to Spurs to replace Harry.

Brilliance!

I'm always amazed when people dont stop to think..........why? Simply why?

Guardiola, will most likely sign on for Barca, as he does every year, or will take a little break, after that I can only see him going to a top European club. Maybe even the national team, but why would he want to go to Spurs?

Mourinho, will win the league this season and may want to high tail it so as he doesnt have to fend off the challenge of a wounded Barca next season, if thats the case, he could have his choice of jobs, or could take a break, which he should do imo, and again, why would he want to go to Spurs when he will have the choice of practically any job in football?

Rubbish eh? How so? There is a great possibility that this'll be Mourinho's last year in Spain. Yet you dismiss Spurs completely? Face it who would be a better option for him (bar an international side)? He has made no secret of the fact that he wants to go back to England someday and he is already very familiar with London. Spurs are the fastest improving side in English football and the third best. There is no doubt that with Mourinho on board they feel that they can realistically challenge for the title, and this is a challenge I can see Mourinho relishing. He will have CL football and will be given plenty of money to spend too.

So who would be better? Maybe United or City but neither is feasible. The PL is the best league in the world and the top managers want to manage there. So therefore I think it is incredibly realistic that he would take over from Harry and this is reflected in the betting, where bookies have him second favourite.

kryogen

Mourinho

Oh its quite feasible that if Mancini fails to deliver the league that JM would be approached to be the City manager.

Its also feasible that Fergie will call it a day at the end of the season, I dont think its likely but its a possibility.

Spurs do not have the financial clout to attract him, thats why its rubbish, the wage cap and the transfer policy employed by Levy isnt one that suits JM.

He has said he wants to return to England, yes, but he has also said he will manage Inter again too. Why not next season? Why not, as I have already stated, take a well deserved break from football? Why not stay on at Madrid? do you think Spurs are a bigger club then Madrid? you think they would have more pulling power?

Come off it.

Rubbish, plain and simple. Bookmark this thread, save this post, if Mourinho is the manager of Spurs next season I will personally donate 500euro to whichever charity you choose.

ps, using the bookies index on next manager betting as something you think proves your point is beyond ridiculous.

They change like the weather, with a little media spinning (such as the Premier League is the best in the world and the likes) anyone can go from 12/1 to 1/3 overnight, doesnt make a blind bit of difference in reality.

Hiddink has signed for AM in Russia, you dont think he would have had some offers in England? Why did he go there? Money maybe?


and also, just noticed you think I was talking about Mourinho to Spurs and Guardiola as the rubbish I referenced, it very clearly wasnt, but is still rubbish.

cgpg5

Moyes

Thought you said that Mourinho going to Spurs was rubbish which it isn't whether you think it'll happen or not. Guardiola going to Spurs indeed is, I agree.. I'm just saying if Mourinho moves on and chooses to join someone for next season then Spurs, I think, is the most likely option and I feel also that they are indeed a better club at this current time than Inter. No way Fergie will go and if City win the league, which they will I feel, can't see Mancini going either.

G.K.

G.K. wrote: »

Guardiola

I told you so.

Mourinho to Spurs eh? Doubt it now.

Fr Tod Umptious

ok so in the clear light of day.

Redknapp - No England job and 4th place so probably staying.

AVB - Gone

Dalglish - Jury still out, made no progress towards top 4 so maybe time to go back upstairs.

Wenger - CL again probably gives him another year, good second half of the season too.

Moyes - Again probably stays unless a bigger and better job comes up.

Jose - Stays, wants another crack ay CL I'd say.

Fergie - Stays too as he is not leaving with a title loss like that and an early CL exit.

jaykay74

G.K. wrote: »

I told you so.

Mourinho to Spurs eh? Doubt it now.

Read your post just now and I thought duh, he is gone weeks now. Then I saw the date of your post. Good call

CSF

Not trying to wind people up at all here, but Dalglish is nothing like a top manager.

iregk

I was just about to post that CSF. What is Dalglish doing in a list of "top managers" thread.

amiable

Dalglish

iregk wrote: »

I was just about to post that CSF. What is Dalglish doing in a list of "top managers" thread.

You question Dalglish but you don't question why Redknapp is there with only one major honour to his name in over 20 years of management?
Kenny has won the league with 2 different clubs.

Fr Tod Umptious

I think the thread should be

'Managers of top and popular clubs moving this summer' - to avoid all this "King Kenny is, 'Arry isin't" tit for tat.

iregk

amiable wrote: »

You question Dalglish but you don't question why Redknapp is there with only one major honour to his name in over 20 years of management?
Kenny has won the league with 2 different clubs.

I never mentioned anything about Redknapp at all. That said I agree with you 'Arry shouldn't be anywhere near that list either. The title should be managers moving in the summer or managers at top clubs moving in the summer.

amiable

Dalglish

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I think the thread should be

'Managers of top and popular clubs moving this summer' - to avoid all this "King Kenny is, 'Arry isin't" tit for tat.

It speaks volumes that some people seem to class Redknapp as a top manager over Kenny so calling it tit for tat is a bit silly IMO.
Kenny has already proven his worth as a good manager.
Whether he still has those credentials is another story but it can't be argued that he never was a good manager.
Redknapp on the other hand has not done it at the business end so couldn't be classed as a top manager even if he is a triffic bloke

amiable

Dalglish

iregk wrote: »

I never mentioned anything about Redknapp at all. That said I agree with you 'Arry shouldn't be anywhere near that list either. The title should be managers moving in the summer or managers at top clubs moving in the summer.

That's the point I was making

iregk

amiable wrote: »

That's the point I was making

Yes I know this however if you actually read it in correct context I was responding to a post about Kenny, hence why I mention him and not anyone else. You answer the question that is asked.