Sprinter Sacre

dave3004

mdwexford wrote: »

Three pigs, this guy is a superstar.

Al Ferof faced ok opposition and never looked like winning that race.

If Sprinter Sacre was running against Somersby and Finian's Rainbow tomorrow id expect him to make mincemeat out of them.

This is a stupid comment. No horse can make mincemeat out of Somersby

mdwexford

dave3004 wrote: »

This is a stupid comment. No horse can make mincemeat out of Somersby

No this is a stupid comment.

He has been made mincemeat out of many times and he certainly would be by the best two miler since the holy trinity.

jimjamcos

UrbanSea wrote: »

I was there too jimjam. Thought they seemed a bit naive. They said that if he sat on the horse he won, even the most novice of punters no there is no such thing as a cert

I agree. Thought that other eejit telling everyone to lump on was worse though! He basically said the same thing about all the big shots too! If only it was that simple... :cool:

leggit

Well I'll be backing Al Ferof with PP and getting my money back if indeed SS can hack up the hill, simple as

dave3004

mdwexford wrote: »

No this is a stupid comment.

He has been made mincemeat out of many times and he certainly would be by the best two miler since the holy trinity.

Has Somersby ever not been placed?

Maybe a handful of times. Rarely/If ever beaten more than a few lengths

Rhinestone Cowboy

The Arkle is one of the worst races at the meeting for favourites. 2002-2011 have finished 21F7723F84. Sprinter win though

UrbanSea

That fella whose name evades me was calling SS a ''certainty'' and said to ''back him, then go up and collect all your money, get all of your savings and put them on Hurricane Fly, he is bombproof''.


I seriously hope there wasn't anyone stupid enough to take him seriously. Silly comments

Panrich

UrbanSea wrote: »

That fella whose name evades me was calling SS a ''certainty'' and said to ''back him, then go up and collect all your money, get all of your savings and put them on Hurricane Fly, he is bombproof''.


I seriously hope there wasn't anyone stupid enough to take him seriously. Silly comments

In fairness, it will be a popular double on the first day. Add in a win for Quevega and the bookies would be reeling.

Slattsy

There will be millions across the board on the SS, HF and Quevega treble on the first day.

UrbanSea

I understand that and I know he would have been saying it in jest, but surely someone naive who is just starting to get into racing would be strongly influenced by that sort of tone.

ft9

It's the most sensible thing any of these panelists have come out with this year if you ask me.

UrbanSea

It's the most stupid thing I've heard all year. There is no such thing as a bomb proof horse.

Goldcupfav

UrbanSea wrote: »

It's the most stupid thing I've heard all year. There is no such thing as a bomb proof horse.

Any chance of a trip report from last night Urban ? Didnt get a chance to get in there last night.

UrbanSea

Think Gavin shels will be doing that. I left early, they started an hour late.

UrbanSea

UrbanSea wrote: »

It's the most stupid thing I've heard all year. There is no such thing as a bomb proof horse.

Even if they win you're still 100% correct with that statement

Ice87

UrbanSea wrote: »

It's the most stupid thing I've heard all year. There is no such thing as a bomb proof horse.

Have you not seen War Horse yet?:D

leggit

I'll eat my leg if bombproof hurricane fly doesn't win!!

Quevega/Hurricane Fly/Big Bucks is my "bombproof" treble!

convert

leggit wrote: »

I'll eat my leg if bombproof hurricane fly doesn't win!!

We have it in writing now, lads, (and it's quoted here incase he tries to delete the post) so if HF doesn't win we'll all get to watch (or hear about) leggit eating his own leg! :pac:

Folski

Ice87 wrote: »

It seems that you are trying to convince yourself more than anything else that SS is a sure thing and Al ferof won't be able to touch it. If he's not off the bridle within this race I'll eat my hat.

I hope he turns out to be as good as the hype which surrounds him but I think this track if anything else could be the doing of him.

It doesn't matter what French Opera is rated. Forpaddy ran a great race that day and still finished 6 lengths behind Al Ferof.

If we were to go by the I'm So Lucky form in previous races you would say both horses are fairly equal would you not?

Look at previous races, you could say Sizing Europe had arguably better form leading up to his Arkle victory and he was 6/1 to win it.

Maybe it is a very poor arkle but the odds don't seem to reward the risk at the moment.

Henderson has come out and said French Opera was no where near fully wound up that day so I'd doubt that you could compare the form to Al Ferof's run ahead of Forpadytheplasterer.

Folski

leggit wrote: »

Well I'll be backing Al Ferof with PP and getting my money back if indeed SS can hack up the hill, simple as

If you were to back with SS with Boyles online or by phone and he was to finished second you'd also get your money back.

TheMilkyPirate

convert wrote: »

We have it in writing now, lads, (and it's quoted here incase he tries to delete the post) so if HF doesn't win we'll all get to watch (or hear about) leggit eating his own leg! :pac:

Who will be from then on in known simply as, Git.

ziggy

This post has been deleted.

leggit

This is cyber bullying!

Rhinestone Cowboy

Some fine Sprinter Sacre quotes on that link. Davy has been on a bit of a journey

On his tour around the previews (nobody else seems to do as many!) Davy told one audience that “Richard Johnson told me he would win the Arkle on Menorah” and that "he spoke to Joe Tizzard who rides Cue Card and he promised to set a strong pace to expose any stamina weakness in Sprinter Sacre, which may set the race up for Peddlers Cross or possibly Al Ferof”. At the latest previews Davy has seemingly seen the light. It has now been reported that he considers Sprinter Sacre “unbeatable”

Oscars Well.

Rhinestone Cowboy wrote: »

Some fine Sprinter Sacre quotes on that link. Davy has been on a bit of a journey

I particularly like Geraghtys!

hucklebuck

leggit wrote: »

I'll eat my leg if bombproof hurricane fly doesn't win!!

If this happens I am going to call you hoppit!

convert

leggit wrote: »

I'll eat my leg if bombproof hurricane fly doesn't win!!

Looks like you're just going to be 'git' now! :pac:

Colonel Sanders

That was a serious "wow" performance from SS

Looked like he'd win by 2f when jumping the 3rd last.

Just jaw dropping

Morgans

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

That was a serious "wow" performance from SS

Looked like he'd win by 2f when jumping the 3rd last.

Just jaw dropping

Isnt that the key though. He didnt. I was suprised to see Cue Card within hailing distance at the last - to the extent that SS needed a good jump. It was heartening to see him find for pressure (for what it was) up the hill. Oozes quality.

Colonel Sanders

I don't think he came out of 2nd gear tbh. Geraghty seemed to only give him a flick down to neck to keep his mind on the job in the straight. Travelled & jumped super.

Awesome.

Morgans

Would be worth going to Punchestown to see - or Aintree for that matter.

Huntley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3ivr1cn8I

I don't need to say much but it was a pleasure to watch Sprinter Sacre treat the opposition with as much disdain as I had for them, and in doing so confirming my views which were so heavily ridiculed here.

Well done backers.

Stewie Griffin

Just had a quick scout through the thread Huntley, and I didn't see anyone ridiculing your opinion. Indeed, most agreed with you. One guy thought he wouldn't win on the bridle but, other than that, I can't see anyone heavily ridiculing you.

Well done on the shout though!

newuser89

Didn't win on the bridle
He did in his other races

mdwexford

newuser89 wrote: »

Didn't win on the bridle
He did in his other races

Didnt get whipped, he was pushed out just to keep his mind on the job.

It was as close to on the bridle as you will see at the festival.

Stewie Griffin

I'm not saying he did, I'm saying that I can't see the heavy ridicule that Huntley speaks of.

Huntley

Stewie Griffin wrote: »

Just had a quick scout through the thread Huntley, and I didn't see anyone ridiculing your opinion. Indeed, most agreed with you. One guy thought he wouldn't win on the bridle but, other than that, I can't see anyone heavily ridiculing you.

Well done on the shout though!

It isn't confined to this thread, there were plenty of people who didn't like my blatant bullishness about the horse and ridiculed my views. I'm not bothered though, it's clear who the foolish ones are now and it's all about the coins at the end of the day for me.

Stewie Griffin

Well, it's not on this thread anyway, lad!

Like I said, good shout! Would have been very frustrating to miss him...

mdwexford

Stewie Griffin wrote: »

I'm not saying he did, I'm saying that I can't see the heavy ridicule that Huntley speaks of.

I didnt quote you.

newuser89

Eased near finish is how it looked
Looked back at it and I'm surprised how close cue card was
Someone quoted me saying he won't win on the bridle straight after he won
But he didn't win like he did in his other races
He needed to be kept going
Next years champ chaser definitely either way
Geraghty already said finians rainbow will be going to Ryanair next year lol
I do think had they jumped the last sizing Europe would of beat finians

Stewie Griffin

Sorry md, my comment was for newuser89

mdwexford

newuser89 wrote: »

Eased near finish is how it looked
Looked back at it and I'm surprised how close cue card was
Someone quoted me saying he won't win on the bridle straight after he won
But he didn't win like he did in his other races
He needed to be kept going
Next years champ chaser definitely either way
Geraghty already said finians rainbow will be going to Ryanair next year lol
I do think had they jumped the last sizing Europe would of beat finians

Im not so sure.

When Lynch realised he just yanked Sizing Europe straight into Finian's Rainbow and Barry nearly fell off. It put him off balance and he had to pick back up. Whoever jumped the last the cleaner would have won imo. We'll never know but I dont think they can have too many complaints.

Indeed, SE gave FR a right bump, SE was also ahead by a decent neck or so up the hill after that but FR had more in the tank. The jump could have been crucial but FR popped them all nicely and was going just as well so 'twould be toss of a biased coin to say SE would have won me thinks.

newuser89

Just the way lynch pulled him out of his stride and his head reared badly
SE looked tired after that which he shouldn't be for a horse that stays
2 miles 7 f
He never got back into his stride

Huntley

Seasonal Achievements:

Wayward Lad (Grade 2)
Game Spirit (Grade 2)
Arkle (Grade 1)
Mughall (Grade 1)

A fantastic novice season by all accounts, treated his opposition with absolute contempt when he hadn't scared them off already.

The question now is how many lengths will he win the Champion Chase by?



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Morgans

I think Sprinter Sacre is now unfortunately overrated. It's very easy to pull apart the novice form and I'd prefer to take the chance on Finian's Rainbow at 7s ew than 5/4 about the fav. Sprinter Sacre doesnt have better form yet - might only be a matter of time - but the gap in the odds does not reflect their chances. I think he still has to improve to win the QM, and 5/4 should be reserved for horses like BB or Quevega where they dont need to improve and the opposition is unlikely to improve past.

Sainctuaire in that form on Tingle Creek day would be a threat. I dont see him running to that form too often. Great win. I cant see him running like that and winning the QM. Also has looked reluctant in the past.

Huntley

Huntley wrote: »

The question now is how many lengths will he win the Champion Chase by?



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19 lengths was the answer.

Tingle Creek, Victor Chandler and Queen Mother added to the resumé. Rated 188. Unstoppable.

jimjamcos

Huntley wrote: »

19 lengths was the answer.

Tingle Creek, Victor Chandler and Queen Mother added to the resumé. Rated 188. Unstoppable.

And Punchestown bound please God!

Johner

It would be brilliant to see him over in Punchestown. Would be pretty special.

UrbanSea

He is good