Sprinter Sacre

Stewie Griffin · 15-03-2012 12:37am

Sorry md, my comment was for newuser89

mdwexford · 15-03-2012 12:44am

newuser89 wrote: »

Eased near finish is how it looked
Looked back at it and I'm surprised how close cue card was
Someone quoted me saying he won't win on the bridle straight after he won
But he didn't win like he did in his other races
He needed to be kept going
Next years champ chaser definitely either way
Geraghty already said finians rainbow will be going to Ryanair next year lol
I do think had they jumped the last sizing Europe would of beat finians

Im not so sure.

When Lynch realised he just yanked Sizing Europe straight into Finian's Rainbow and Barry nearly fell off. It put him off balance and he had to pick back up. Whoever jumped the last the cleaner would have won imo. We'll never know but I dont think they can have too many complaints.

15-03-2012 12:51am

Indeed, SE gave FR a right bump, SE was also ahead by a decent neck or so up the hill after that but FR had more in the tank. The jump could have been crucial but FR popped them all nicely and was going just as well so 'twould be toss of a biased coin to say SE would have won me thinks.

newuser89 · 15-03-2012 8:49am

Just the way lynch pulled him out of his stride and his head reared badly
SE looked tired after that which he shouldn't be for a horse that stays
2 miles 7 f
He never got back into his stride

Huntley · 29-04-2012 2:28pm

Seasonal Achievements:

Wayward Lad (Grade 2)
Game Spirit (Grade 2)
Arkle (Grade 1)
Mughall (Grade 1)

A fantastic novice season by all accounts, treated his opposition with absolute contempt when he hadn't scared them off already.

The question now is how many lengths will he win the Champion Chase by?

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Morgans · 29-04-2012 2:48pm

I think Sprinter Sacre is now unfortunately overrated. It's very easy to pull apart the novice form and I'd prefer to take the chance on Finian's Rainbow at 7s ew than 5/4 about the fav. Sprinter Sacre doesnt have better form yet - might only be a matter of time - but the gap in the odds does not reflect their chances. I think he still has to improve to win the QM, and 5/4 should be reserved for horses like BB or Quevega where they dont need to improve and the opposition is unlikely to improve past.

Sainctuaire in that form on Tingle Creek day would be a threat. I dont see him running to that form too often. Great win. I cant see him running like that and winning the QM. Also has looked reluctant in the past.

Huntley · 13-03-2013 5:30pm

Huntley wrote: »

The question now is how many lengths will he win the Champion Chase by?

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19 lengths was the answer.

Tingle Creek, Victor Chandler and Queen Mother added to the resumé. Rated 188. Unstoppable.

jimjamcos · 13-03-2013 5:36pm

Huntley wrote: »

19 lengths was the answer.

Tingle Creek, Victor Chandler and Queen Mother added to the resumé. Rated 188. Unstoppable.

And Punchestown bound please God!

Johner · 13-03-2013 5:39pm

It would be brilliant to see him over in Punchestown. Would be pretty special.

UrbanSea · 13-03-2013 7:02pm

He is good

SRFC · 13-03-2013 11:14pm

4/6 for next seaons Champion chase,Tempted to back this every week

he doesnt get injured he will turn up a 1/20 shot.

Johner · 13-03-2013 11:15pm

SRFC wrote: »

4/6 for next seaons Champion chase,Tempted to back this every week he doesnt get injured he will turn up a 1/20 shot.

Was evens before the race!

Gringo180 · 13-03-2013 11:50pm

Best 2 miler I have ever seen, this horse is just an absolute tank that runs top class horses into the ground. Maybe a stupid question but does anybody think he would stay The Gold Cup distance?

Rastadoyle · 13-03-2013 11:52pm

maybe not gold cup distance but would love to see him have a crack at a king george. they wont tho it will be the champion chase for the rest of his career

ft9 · 13-03-2013 11:56pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Best 2 miler I have ever seen, this horse is just an absolute tank that runs top class horses into the ground. Maybe a stupid question but does anybody think he would stay The Gold Cup distance?

I suggested that months ago on here. Didn't go down too well.

Gringo180 · 14-03-2013 12:06am

ft9 wrote: »

I suggested that months ago on here. Didn't go down too well.

I dont see why not, he stayed 2 miles 4 on soft ground at Ascot as a 4 year old.

SRFC · 14-03-2013 12:09am

If he was to run in the champion hurdle next year how would you price it up lads? hes rated high 140s over hurdles wasnt he :pac: Would you back him to win a champion with his engine?

hawkeyethenoo · 14-03-2013 12:13am

he would have hacked up in this years champion. he was a big baby as a 4/5 year in his novice hurdle season.

hawkeyethenoo · 14-03-2013 12:14am

oh and simonsig would have won this years champion hurdle too

Gringo180 · 14-03-2013 12:14am

SRFC wrote: »

If he was to run in the champion hurdle next year how would you price it up lads? hes rated high 140s over hurdles wasnt he :pac: Would you back him to win a champion with his engine?

Odds on anyways, maybe 1/2?

Frankie Lee · 14-03-2013 12:52am

Too good to be true?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/jul/07/nicky-henderson-case-greg-wood

Havermeyer · 14-03-2013 1:18am

Johner wrote: »

Was evens before the race!

Where did you get that price? He was 1/4 on Betfair before the race.

Johner · 22-03-2013 6:17pm

I meant he was evens for next years Champion Chase before the race.

MoscowFlyer · 22-03-2013 7:34pm

Connections thinking of going 2 1/2 miles with the superstar...

Johner · 22-03-2013 8:01pm

Don't do it chemical you bollox. Was really looking forward to going to see him in Punchestown.

Huntley · 05-04-2013 11:03am

Supposedly his biggest test today stepping up to 2 and a half miles. I'm not really sure if people actually believe he can be beaten, there is nothing that has a remote possibility of doing that provided he runs to within 10lbs of his best. Flemenstar's connections seem to be caught up in a bubble of 'Anthony Knott syndrome', a likeable high class animal but he won't be able to get Sprinter Sacre out of his comfort zone. He would need to run the race of his life to even beat Cue Card provided he runs near to form. Cue Card would have been a standout 2 miler in his own right had he not emerged at the same time as this superstar but I'm intrigued to see how close he gets.

Hopefully Sprinter Sacre returns safe and sound with another Grade 1 in the bag. Some overrated horse though.

droidman123 · 05-04-2013 11:42am

Huntley wrote: »

Supposedly his biggest test today stepping up to 2 and a half miles. I'm not really sure if people actually believe he can be beaten, there is nothing that has a remote possibility of doing that provided he runs to within 10lbs of his best. Flemenstar's connections seem to be caught up in a bubble of 'Anthony Knott syndrome', a likeable high class animal but he won't be able to get Sprinter Sacre out of his comfort zone. He would need to run the race of his life to even beat Cue Card provided he runs near to form. Cue Card would have been a standout 2 miler in his own right had he not emerged at the same time as this superstar but I'm intrigued to see how close he gets.

Hopefully Sprinter Sacre returns safe and sound with another Grade 1 in the bag. Some overrated horse though.

Overrated???

Morgans · 05-04-2013 11:55am

See its a dig at me who called his novice form overrated.

I would always urge caution at backing 5/4 shots (even ones that good) 6 months before a race.

The thing about the novice form isnt what Sprinter Sacre has done for it, its what Cue Card has done for it. Cue Card looked to be somewhat disappointing as a novice given the promise he had early on. He is a genuine top notcher, but has run into a machine in Sprinter Sacre. Im sure he would have finished second in the QM, and its a shame that the Ryanair diluted that.

I hope Sprinter Sacre jumps better today than he did at Cheltenham. Normally foot perfect, if they can get him out of his rtythm its their only chance. Think his class will see him through regardless.

RichieLawlor · 05-04-2013 11:55am

I hope CC and Flemenstar run above themselves today so we can see a 200 rating

Colonel Sanders · 05-04-2013 12:10pm

It's very easy to use hindsight to say an assessment at a point in time (which had no benefit of hindsight) on whether an animal was over or under rated was right or wrong.

For example if SS was currently rated 200+ I'd say he was over rated on what he'd actually done. That would not mean I don't reckon he's capable of posting such a figure at a time in the future. It would then be easy to come back and laugh at me having said he was over rated if he did go & post many 200+ performances

Strangely all the calls that Grandouet was over rated on what he'd actually achieved on the track before the champion hurdle and again before the Aintree hurdle, won by the muppet horse, have yet to be bumped.

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