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GUH ban smoking on its premises
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This system is very common in the UK, where ironically, the very same hospitals with extreme anti-smoking hospitals have inhouse McDonalds and Burger Kings
. Anyway, this same system is being rolled out gradually throughout Irish hospitals. A similar system has been in place in CUH for two years now. They have an 'officer' in charge of it who patrols around with her clip board making sure smokers are behaving themselves and is paid 40k a year for the priviledge. It isn't popular in CUH with either staff or patients, but they do have to walk further than one will in GUH, so going for a smoke eats into staff breaks considerably. I doubt it will prove particularly popular in GUH either. I know that they have staff sanctions in place for those caught smoking within hospital grounds in CUH, but I have no idea if they do anything to patients. They were extremely strict about it initially, but they seem a bit more relaxed now.
Such measures might seem extreme, but GUH is a university teaching hospital, and they should be doing what they can to promote good health. Discouraging smoking is definitely part of this. A covered in gazebo for the smokers, situated right beside the hospital door doesn't do much for this to be fair, and it is something that a hospital should be at least seen to be discouraging. Nothing worse than seeing a patient still on a drip standing outside the hospital puffing away, IMO anyway, and don't get me started on the heavily preggers women puffing away there too, one of the most ignorant displays you'll ever see!0 -
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Gold Leaf Tea wrote: »This system is very common in the UK, where ironically, the very same hospitals with extreme anti-smoking hospitals have inhouse McDonalds and Burger Kings
What's ironic about that? There's nothing inherently unhealthy about McDonalds or Burger King food, it's just the calories and quantities that some people eat.
While smoking:
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Agreed. Smoking always gives me the boke when sober, especially if I'm hungover. Amount of times I've been queuing to get on Bus Eireann the morning after and been stuck behind some aul wan who decides to chain-smoke 2 king size fags before she gets onNext up should be bus stops.
I f*cking hate sitting at a bus stop and having to move because some gomey c*nt lights up a fag instead of pissing off outside where the wind will carry the smoke away.
I always end up down wind too.
I'd actually prefer if the smoking ban was reversed, and pubs were the only places you could smoke. Nobody goes there for the sake of their health!0 -
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inisboffin wrote: »Government needs the revenue.
Smoking costs the state more in health care than they state receives in taxes.
I realise that is likely the case. But still remember tv smoking ads in my lifetime.
It was said with a note of sarcasm, part of a longer Govt rant! 0 -
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inisboffin wrote: »... kicking people out to the road is not dealing with the problem, it is pushing it out to be someone else's problem. Who will clean butts on the road regularly, if all the smokers are coming from the hospital, surely they will have some responsibility?
We expect dog-walkers to pooper-scoop. Don't see why we don't expect smokers to butt-scoop.
Frankly, this is long overdue.
Unlike any other addictive substance, smoking offers no benefits at all, ever, to anyone. If sick people won't give up the fags while they're in hospital, then discharge 'em and give the bed to someone who is prepared to engage in behaviours that will help them get better instead of worse: goodness knows the waiting lists are long enough.
The only exception I'd make is sectioned (or whatever it's called here) psych patients, who may well be addicted because of misguided behaviour management approaches used in the past, involving cigarettes as rewards.
Yeah, I never understood why fag stomping is ok but dropping sweet wrappers is littering.
But don't forget smoking for slimmers!
Nicotine is supposed to be one of the hardest of all addictions to kick, and sometimes when people give up fags - a much worse cough ensues as the bronchioles repair themselves (or something like that).
I know in theory giving up when one is sick seems rational, but it is the ultimate stress relief for many, and bang, doing it when in hospital might just feel too overwhelming. Plenty of chronic alcoholics in and out of hospital too, their addiction is just manifested differently in social terms. Harder to monitor short term, but if we're going to kick out smokers, we'd to look boozers too. Not so black and white..
A cousin works in 'Psych' in a Dublun hospital- and you're absolutely right about 'rewards'. Still happens, doling out fags to people, but moreso to keep an eye on amounts.0 -
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