Raw 20th February *Spoilers and a hairless deadman expected*

CMpunked

Wm28 is shaping up to be an excellently solid card. Now if only they get the undercard right it could actually turn out a better WM than 17! :eek:

MAJR

Preachy Bryan returns.

ceegee

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Wow...I assumed it was an issue with the stream. It seemed so out of place.

Was played over the pre-ads teaser of takers feet walking as well

spiralism

Santino's over as **** and WWE decide to squash him. Bit stupid, he could make up an important part of the WM undercard at this rate. Put him in the IC match with rhodes, it could be surprisingly good.

RobbingBandit

Better than rap/Rhiana

A Primal Nut

ceegee wrote: »

Was played over the pre-ads teaser of takers feet walking as well

It'll hardly be his new entrance music?

cocalolaman

anthand wrote: »

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Yep. Best wrestlemania ever.

spiralism

CMpunked wrote: »

Wm28 is shaping up to be an excellently solid card. Now if only they get the undercard right it could actually turn out a better WM than 17! :eek:

Well so far the Main event is A1 standard and the celeb/gimmick match is going to be Show v Shaq(given the last two gimmick matches we were subjected to in wrestlemania it'll be surprisingly good in comparision)... if this gets a Money in the Bank match, it could well be the best Wrestlemania ever. Giving Santino an IC shot with Rhodes might be a stroke of genius, Santino is clearly over atm and did fine work in the chamber, especially at the end with Bryan, he'd be well able for a decent undercard match.

newballsplease

A Primal Nut wrote: »

It'll hardly be his new entrance music?

Remember he had johnny cash last year

MAJR

No one gets exited about the Divas like Lawler does.

cocalolaman

MAJR wrote: »

No one gets exited about the Divas like Lawler does.

No one gets exited about the Divas.

CMpunked

spiralism wrote: »

Well so far the Main event is A1 standard and the celeb/gimmick match is going to be Show v Shaq(given the last two gimmick matches we were subjected to in wrestlemania it'll be surprisingly good in comparision)... if this gets a Money in the Bank match, it could well be the best Wrestlemania ever.

I'd rather see show v swagger tbh after him saying how show is like the "anti-undertaker". Put shaq in a corner or as the ref or something, anything but facing a celeb with no hope of winning.

spiralism

CMpunked wrote: »

I'd rather see show v swagger tbh after him saying how show is like the "anti-undertaker". Put shaq in a corner or as the ref or something, anything but facing a celeb with no hope of winning.

Them hanging a lampshade on Show's bad wrestlemania record all but assures he's not losing there. Show v Swagger would work, hardly for the US title though?

Id be ****ing delighted if the undercard had Show and Swagger and Santino v Rhodes for the IC belt along with MITB...would be epic fare altogether.

newballsplease

CMpunked wrote: »

I'd rather see show v swagger tbh after him saying how show is like the "anti-undertaker". Put shaq in a corner or as the ref or something, anything but facing a celeb with no hope of winning.

Who cares if you know shaq wud win... Id like to see that more then swagger... Therl be plenty of top matches hopefully... A celeb one wouldnt be so bad... Wud be great if they replaced it with the divas for the night.

MAJR

To paraphraze that great American Davy Crockett. "Cena and Rock may go to hell, I will go to sleep"

ceegee

lol at the Forever alone Ryder sign

ricero

I agree 100 % to what cena is saying

Liam O

this is great, if it was Punk everyone would be cheering a lot louder...

CMpunked

Lol @ Cena taking a piss on his wwe movies.

spiralism

I love when Cena cuts loose like this in his promo work. It's what got him a fanbase when he started off. Like I said a year ago when he buried rock with a similarly excellent promo- more of the same. None of the pg ****e for the 5 year olds, leave that at the door, this one is different.

glenjamin

If Cena could put have the amount of effort he did just there in all his promos I'd be a Cena mark. Great promo.

Liam O

spiralism wrote: »

I love when Cena cuts loose like this in his promo work. It's what got him a fanbase when he started off. Like I said a year ago when he buried rock with a similarly excellent promo- more of the same. None of the pg ****e for the 5 year olds, leave that at the door, this one is different.

There wasn't much that wasn't PG about it, he was just speaking the truth...

spiralism

Liam O wrote: »

There wasn't much that wasn't PG about it, he was just speaking the truth...

I know, it's just that his pg promos are childish as ****. This was serious business.

Savage, punk in commentary

Super-Rush

Couldn't agree more with what Cena said tbh.

I couldn't give a flying fcuk about this match.




RE what i said earlier about Rock V Cena being a title match, did Cena not say it would be for the title the night after WM 27?

ricero

Does punk not have trousers or does he wear his ring gear on his night off aswell

A Primal Nut

Jericho to get injured again and not really be eliminated..............:D

ceegee

Best promo in a good while, certainly better than most of Punks drivel for the last few months. Thought he did well in his opening promo destroying Eve too.

But seeing as its Cena loads of people will still say it was ****e

glenjamin

Was that girl a plant just to get Punk over with the female demographic? :P

CMpunked

El Pistolero wrote: »

RE what i said earlier about Rock V Cena being a title match, did Cena not say it would be for the title the night after WM 27?

yes he did, but thankfully that was dropped.

ricero wrote: »

Does punk not have trousers or does he wear his ring gear on his night off aswell

Dark match against Jericho or Cena I'd say.

ceegee

why does Ziggler have an ass-cape ??

spiralism

Customary "everyone eliminates the huge guy" line there, it's Khali's sole reason for existence these days

Rjd2

ceegee wrote: »

Sheamus & Bryan dont seem to have much luck at Mania, bumped to dark match last time, and this year they've this HIAC and Rock v Cena to totally overshadow
their title match (not to mention whoever Punk fights)

I think its remarkable that Daniel Bryan will be in a World Title match at Mania, nobody would have predicted that when he signed. Sheamus will be reasonably happy. The match itself will probably be 4th in terms of importance slightly behind Punk/ Jericho and of course the 2 monster matches Cena/ Rock and taker/ Trips which will be expected to bring in the bulk of the buys.

super182

Been a fairly good raw all in all.. Hope Ziggler wins this and Jericho gets added to the match at Mania.. That's hoping though, more than likely a Jericho win..

A Primal Nut

Good RAW but wow it really drags when watching it live. So much easier when I watch it the next day without ads and skipping divas matches.

Liam O

Ziggs got done there

Cianan2

Barrets arm popped out ugh

spiralism

Botch with wade there, looked nasty. Shame, that's made a right feck of him and Orton for mania so.

RobbingBandit

Botchfest

super182

Dolph is brownbread.

CMpunked

Cianan2 wrote: »

Barrets arm popped out ugh

Was it visible? I missed it.

spiralism

That's teasing Cody and Santino by the

Never mind, finish has swung that to show

Cianan2

Vintage benoit! Rhodes v show if shaq isnt gonna be there?

Cianan2

CMpunked wrote: »

Cianan2 wrote: »

Barrets arm popped out ugh

Was it visible? I missed it.

When zigg landed on him you could see it as soon as he hits the floor

RobbingBandit

Ziggler landed on his jaw, whoever is on the stretcher must be fcuked

spiralism

Cianan2 wrote: »

Vintage benoit! Rhodes v show if shaq isnt gonna be there?

Maybe Shaq as ref? someone here was saying as much. Rhodes should go in with either Show or Santino, both would probably be decent matches

Great Raw, hands down better than last night's ppv. Shame about the botch with Wade at the end, hate to see someone pick up a nasty injury now of all times.

super182

Looked nasty for Barrett and Ziggler there. You could see Jericho asking the ref what happened to Wade at the end.

Liam O

Very good Raw overall, not much they could have done better...

A Primal Nut

That was some carnage when Big Show threw Ziggler out. Ziggler looked he took a wallop and also landed on Wade. Great moment but sorry for injured wrestlers. Great battle royal and an excellent raw.

spiralism

super182 wrote: »

Looked nasty for Barrett and Ziggler there. You could see Jericho asking the ref what happened to Wade at the end.

Did Ziggler break his jaw or something? Those two will be missed on the WM card assuming the injuries are as bad as they look (though with 6 weeks to go they may have a bit of luck, wouldnt hold my breath though), both very underrated workers.

ricero

I guess randy orton will now be representing teddy long at mania in a battle for the gm role. Probs against del rio or Christian