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Graphic designers ruining the web?

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    #62
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    p wrote: »
    And therefore, you continue to think that's the only way it could possibly be in the entire world.
    How boring.

    I never said it's the only way it could possibly be. But it's the most cost efficient and productive way to be.


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    #63
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    smash wrote: »
    I never said it's the only way it could possibly be. But it's the most cost efficient and productive way to be.

    But it often diminishes quality. There are very few designers that I'd trust to code even front end code and particularly JavaScript with any degree of competence. I know many do but many don't. And those who don't, quite often, are very talented creatively.


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    #64
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    But it often diminishes quality.
    Then people should use a different agency if they feel the quality of the product is crap.
    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    There are very few designers that I'd trust to code even front end code and particularly JavaScript with any degree of competence.
    And I've yet to meet a developer that I would trust to chop up a design without losing quality.
    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    I know many do but many don't. And those who don't, quite often, are very talented creatively.
    I never said you can't be creatively talented just because you can't code. I said if you can't code then I don't consider you a web designer, I consider you a graphic designer.


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    #65
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    smash wrote: »
    Then people should use a different agency if they feel the quality of the product is crap.

    I'd agree.
    smash wrote: »
    And I've yet to meet a developer that I would trust to chop up a design without losing quality.

    I code pixel-perfect every time. You're obviously working with crap developers.
    smash wrote: »
    I never said you can't be creatively talented just because you can't code. I said if you can't code then I don't consider you a web designer, I consider you a graphic designer.

    What if you're designing for the web? Your own personal definitions and what you consider to be a 'web designer' doesn't really count for much. If you're designing websites for a living, whether you code or not, you're a web designer. End of story.


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    #66
    Giblet
    Registered Users Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    smash wrote: »
    And I've yet to meet a developer that I would trust to chop up a design without losing quality.

    You need to get out of the company you are in then! I mean.. how?! I might not be a designer but I'll be damned if I don't know a **** load about image processing, quality and typography.


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    #67
    Giblet
    Registered Users Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    smash wrote: »
    I never said you can't be creatively talented just because you can't code. I said if you can't code then I don't consider you a web designer, I consider you a graphic designer.

    What level do they need to code to?


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    #68
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Giblet wrote: »
    What level do they need to code to?
    CSS and HTML at a bare minimum. Even at that level they can have placeholders for jquery related content that someone else can drop in.


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    #69
    desaparecidos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭desaparecidos


    Fecking Indians


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