Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016

jca

All activity in Enniscorthy seems to have stopped. Nothing ever done at the cabinet that I think I'm on.

tdonegan1990

what does the sticker look like on the cabinets?

Nermal

Excuse my complete ignorance, but why is this requiring engineer callouts, new sockets and new modems? I thought FTTC used existing lines from the cabinet to the house?

Baneblade

its a yellow strip with the cab number on it

red_bairn

Nermal wrote: »

Excuse my complete ignorance, but why is this requiring engineer callouts, new sockets and new modems? I thought FTTC used existing lines from the cabinet to the house?

They want no noise on the line so they have to check out the lines between the house and the cabinet if they do find problems at the house.

They need to have a proper internal splitter or faceplate for the master socket and they need to use a VDSL enabled modem that has been specially made for Eircom. An ADSL modem would not be able to higher speeds that is attained by FTTC.

They will do tests on the modem to see what is the best speed to set your home connection at and they will setup the NTU where you wish...well not out in the back of the yard. More like in the living room nearer to the TV (IPTV) in the future.

Nermal

red_bairn wrote: »

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Thanks - Vodafone doing the same?

red_bairn

Nermal wrote: »

Thanks - Vodafone doing the same?

Any companies that use Eircom's equipment will have Eircom engineers doing the installation so then Vodafone, Magnet et al can't complain that Eircom have poor lines, equipment etc.

ferpur

by the way some of the commissioned cabs do not have stickers on them

red_bairn

ferpur wrote: »

by the way some of the commissioned cabs do not have stickers on them

How do you know that? Are there some people on the service already and the stickers aren't on or..?

Israeli Superiority

What channels would we get on IPTV? Anyone know if there's football (soccer) on it?

red_bairn

Israeli Superiority wrote: »

What channels would we get on IPTV? Anyone know if there's football (soccer) on it?

There are no details about this as of yet. Unless any Eircom employee wants to PM one of us secretly about it.

ferpur

red_bairn wrote: »

How do you know that? Are there some people on the service already and the stickers aren't on or..?

for example roschill in Drogheda if you enter any address it says you can get efibre but there is no sticker on there cab:eek:

red_bairn

ferpur wrote: »

for example roschill in Drogheda if you enter any address it says you can get efibre but there is no sticker on there cab:eek:

Has anybody actually received fibre over there? I wouldn't trust that dodgey system.

brophs

Probably a daft question, but does the speed you could get on your old BB line reflect what you'll be able to get on Fibre? At the moment the max line speed we can get is 7MB, even though we've been nominally upgrade to something like 12MB. I've rung them and they say the line cannot handle any more than that. They've installed a new Fibre cabinet outside of where we live (beside the old cabinet) so is there a chance we'll only be able to get a fraction of the new, faster Fibre speeds, or does the new cabinet/Fibre connection mean that we should be able to get closer to the speeds listed on the Eircom Fibre information?

Cheers

phog

brophs wrote: »

Probably a daft question, but does the speed you could get on your old BB line reflect what you'll be able to get on Fibre? At the moment the max line speed we can get is 7MB, even though we've been nominally upgrade to something like 12MB. I've rung them and they say the line cannot handle any more than that. They've installed a new Fibre cabinet outside of where we live (beside the old cabinet) so is there a chance we'll only be able to get a fraction of the new, faster Fibre speeds, or does the new cabinet/Fibre connection mean that we should be able to get closer to the speeds listed on the Eircom Fibre information?

Cheers

Hope not, actually no.

I'm almost 7km from the exchange but just 1km from the cab so my speed should go from 1.2megs to hopefully around 20megs

red_bairn

brophs wrote: »

Probably a daft question, but does the speed you could get on your old BB line reflect what you'll be able to get on Fibre? At the moment the max line speed we can get is 7MB, even though we've been nominally upgrade to something like 12MB. I've rung them and they say the line cannot handle any more than that. They've installed a new Fibre cabinet outside of where we live (beside the old cabinet) so is there a chance we'll only be able to get a fraction of the new, faster Fibre speeds, or does the new cabinet/Fibre connection mean that we should be able to get closer to the speeds listed on the Eircom Fibre information?

Cheers

FTTC technology is also done by distance. The only case where it would be not the case is if you had FTTH (Fibre to the Home) or FTTB/P (Fibre to the Building/Premises).

Eventhough you could receive up to 12Mb, it is probably much more stable at 7. The ADSL is from the Exchange, i.e. the big building in the town/city area that you are in where all the Eircom vans are parked outside. This is where all the phone lines go through. If you don't need to use voice anymore and wish to use VoIP, you will only need to go through the NEW exchange, i.e the FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet).

How far are you away from the cabinet?

brophs

phog wrote: »

Hope not, actually no.

I'm almost 7km from the exchange but just 1km from the cab so my speed should go from 1.2megs to hopefully around 20megs

How do you work that out?

red_bairn wrote: »

FTTC technology is also done by distance. The only case where it would be not the case is if you had FTTH (Fibre to the Home) or FTTB/P (Fibre to the Building/Premises).

Eventhough you could receive up to 12Mb, it is probably much more stable at 7. The ADSL is from the Exchange, i.e. the big building in the town/city area that you are in where all the Eircom vans are parked outside. This is where all the phone lines go through. If you don't need to use voice anymore and wish to use VoIP, you will only need to go through the NEW exchange, i.e the FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet).

How far are you away from the cabinet?

Less than 100 metres.

phog

brophs wrote: »

How do you work that out?

Work what out?

The distances? I know the cable route and checked the distance on walkjogrun.net

The speed? There's a graph in one of the posts but if you Google fttc speeds then you'll probably pick one up


Less than 100 metres.

If you're sure you're connected to the cab then it's happy days for you, speed wise

brophs

phog wrote: »

If you're sure you're connected to the cab then it's happy days for you, speed wise

I haven't a clue. It's at the front gate of our estate, so I'm guessing we are.

red_bairn

brophs wrote: »

I haven't a clue. It's at the front gate of our estate, so I'm guessing we are.

Well the wiring could go arse ways in an old estate but the wiring is probably better thought about in the last decade. But assuming you are with Eircom, you should be able to achieve 40 down and 10-15 up from that distance.

So far the results from peoples Speedtests from a Eircom connection have been below 50Mb, so I'm assuming Eircom are being very conservative on the matter. But we've seen some speed test where some Vodafone customers got 60+ down and 15up.

Anyway, you should get some decent speeds at that distance.

Droguser

red_bairn wrote: »

Has anybody actually received fibre over there? I wouldn't trust that dodgey system.

there have been a few efiber installs done in Roschoill already so its live.

Droguser

ferpur wrote: »

for example roschill in Drogheda if you enter any address it says you can get efibre but there is no sticker on there cab:eek:

there is!

red_bairn

Droguser wrote: »

there is!

So they probably put a sticker on it recently (ninja engineer came by while ferpur wasn't watching).

Droguser

red_bairn wrote: »

So they probably put a sticker on it recently (ninja engineer came by while ferpur wasn't watching).

godskitchen

Where did this sticker info come from?

Im not convinced its any indicator to the cab being live.

PhilMcGee

phog wrote: »

Hope not, actually no.

I'm almost 7km from the exchange but just 1km from the cab so my speed should go from 1.2megs to hopefully around 20megs

If you are 1Km from the cabinet. You wont get fibre then. You are going to be stuck on your old BB speeds.
Read the talk to Eircom thread for more info.

PhilMcGee

godskitchen wrote: »

Where did this sticker info come from?

Im not convinced its any indicator to the cab being live.

What do these stickers look like. Anyone got a pic?

phog

PhilMcGee wrote: »

If you are 1Km from the cabinet. You wont get fibre then. You are going to be stuck on your old BB speeds.
Read the talk to Eircom thread for more info.

They'll do up to 1km, it may also depend on the per_equal test.

Edited to add. They measure the copper cable from the exchange to the cab and subtract that from the copper from the exchange to the house and that gives them their per_equal values.

phog

PhilMcGee wrote: »

What do these stickers look like. Anyone got a pic?

I assume it's a small sticker with the cab ref no on it. Seriously doubt it's a true reflection if a cab being commissioned or not but may be a decent indicator.

PhilMcGee

phog wrote: »

They'll do up to 1km, it may also depend on the per_equal test.

Edited to add. They measure the copper cable from the exchange to the cab and subtract that from the copper from the exchange to the house and that gives them their per_equal values.

Eircom themselves have told me both on the phone and in the thread on here that they wont be doing lines 1km and over from the cab. And if they ever do decide to do it it wont be until after all of the entire network is FTTC, then they might go on and do the ones 1Km or more.
Really annoying after their promises before launch.