Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016

murphaph

PaulieBeef wrote: »

Is there any information on what we can expect being at one of these locations, or timelines for completion etc.?

Not that I'm aware of. Just sit back and hope for the best basically. At least Ireland is doing something about the broadband deficit.

ItHurtsWhenIP

PaulieBeef wrote: »

Is there any information on what we can expect being at one of these locations

According to the webpage:
To date, over 1,000 locations have been identified as target areas for the proposed fibre based connections.

PaulieBeef wrote: »

or timelines for completion etc.?

2017-2020 according to the NBP.

yuloni

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Ger Byrne 1

is it true that eircom are doing something with the ESB networks to bring broadband true the power lines to rural areas far away from the cabinet e
We are 9 km from our cabinet and it looks like we will never get proper broadband

mass_debater

Ger Byrne 1 wrote: »

is it true that eircom are doing something with the ESB networks to bring broadband true the power lines to rural areas far away from the cabinet e
We are 9 km from our cabinet and it looks like we will never get proper broadband

No

Capt'n Midnight

Ger Byrne 1 wrote: »

is it true that eircom are doing something with the ESB networks to bring broadband true the power lines to rural areas far away from the cabinet e
We are 9 km from our cabinet and it looks like we will never get proper broadband

Nope.

ESB are in partnership with Vodafone.
Eircom are also trialling fibre to the home.

These will be premium products. At present eircom only have to run fibre to one cabinet to be able to offer faster broadband to hundreds of people connected to the cabinet by copper.

Running fibre to each one of those customers would be a lot more expensive.

Yes these products may be offered to rural customers, but it's unlikely to happen any time soon unless the government sponsors it or until after the shorter quicker installs have been done in the more profitable suburbs.

Ger Byrne 1

Is there any option out there for a static ip address to run security cameras
The only broadband we can get is 3 under the nbb scheme
and they can not supply a static ip address
theirs keep changing and that means the cameras will not work

MajesticDonkey

Ger Byrne 1 wrote: »

Is there any option out there for a static ip address to run security cameras
The only broadband we can get is 3 under the nbb scheme
and they can not supply a static ip address
theirs keep changing and that means the cameras will not work

Option 1: look for a wireless ISP in your area. For a static IP address you will probably need a business-grade package, which will be upwards of €50-60 per month.

Option 2: look into dynamic DNS.

kaizersoze

Ger Byrne 1 wrote: »

Is there any option out there for a static ip address to run security cameras
The only broadband we can get is 3 under the nbb scheme
and they can not supply a static ip address
theirs keep changing and that means the cameras will not work

www.dyndns.org

I use their service on several camera set ups on 3 mobile.

Johnboy1951

kaizersoze wrote: »

www.dyndns.org

I use their service on several camera set ups on 3 mobile.

They went 'pay only' a short time ago and I moved on to a different free DDNS provider.

Ger Byrne 1

who is the other provider

Ger Byrne 1

Is there better camera systems to use this way and is there somebody that would connect the system
I am in south Wicklow

Johnboy1951

Ger Byrne 1 wrote: »

who is the other provider

I settled on TwoDNS.de after trialling several.

A quick search should show up several alternatives.

MajesticDonkey

Also http://noip.com/

Johnboy1951

MajesticDonkey wrote: »

Also http://noip.com/

Yes I tried them and another I recall

http://freedns.afraid.org/

and probably more before I settled on the replacement for dyndns

ED E

Use NO-IP, theyre excellent.

Ger Byrne 1

Thank you

smileyj1987

murphaph wrote: »

I'd just get a combo saorview/freeview sat receiver and be done with it. eVision seems like a product without a market to me (unless you're in an apartment and can't mount a sat dish)

I'd agree with this , I don't see the need to get evision either . Us netflix would also be a good alternative to Xbmc and saorview.

Hoggy102

Hi,

The Killeagh (East Cork) exhange is soon to be Efibre enabled. What speeds can I expect to get, I'm currently getting 1.6Mbps on a 2Mb sycn.

ED E

Hoggy102 wrote: »

Hi,

The Killeagh (East Cork) exhange is soon to be Efibre enabled. What speeds can I expect to get, I'm currently getting 1.6Mbps on a 2Mb sycn.

The exact same. It wont change.

ItHurtsWhenIP

Hoggy102 wrote: »

Hi,

The Killeagh (East Cork) exhange is soon to be Efibre enabled. What speeds can I expect to get, I'm currently getting 1.6Mbps on a 2Mb sycn.

If you're more than 1.7KM-2KM from the exchange, you're out of range of eFibre, so you will stay with what you have currently.

If/When the NBP rolls around to you, then you will get picked up by that.

Have you any Wireless ISPs operating in your area that could give you better speeds? If you're not sure, then go to this map, drop the marker on your house and tick the Wireless ISPs option. If coverage is shown from one or more companies then give 'em a shout and they would do a signal test to make sure that they can hit your house, which shouldn't cost you anything. They should also be able to indicate what kind of speeds you can get.

Hoggy102

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

If you're more than 1.7KM-2KM from the exchange, you're out of range of eFibre, so you will stay with what you have currently.

If/When the NBP rolls around to you, then you will get picked up by that.

Have you any Wireless ISPs operating in your area that could give you better speeds? If you're not sure, then go to this map, drop the marker on your house and tick the Wireless ISPs option. If coverage is shown from one or more companies then give 'em a shout and they would do a signal test to make sure that they can hit your house, which shouldn't cost you anything. They should also be able to indicate what kind of speeds you can get

Gunner3629

If that's the case then why is the whole bloody area covered with the same colour, makes no sense. That implies the whole area under the exchange is able to get the service.

ED E

Gunner3629 wrote: »

If that's the case then why is the whole bloody area covered with the same colour, makes no sense. That implies the whole area under the exchange is able to get the service.

Thats the retail map. Use the wholesale map.

SeamusFX

I'm in a rural area and we are just over 2km from the village, but I see there's a new cabinet about to go live only 0.7km away as the bird flies and about 1 to 1.5 km away depending on how the wires are routed. When this cabinet eventually goes live, will there be any immediate improvement or will I have to wait for fibre to be routed from the cabinet to my house and if yes, will they automatically run fibre to my house as I'm a current Broadband customer or will I have to make a request? Also I'm currently with Vodafone, but out of contract, is there any advantage in switching back to Eircom?

ItHurtsWhenIP

ED E wrote: »

Thats the retail map. Use the wholesale map.

Unfortunately the wholesale map doesn't actually show the VDSL coverage area ... or does it and I've not spotted the magic button to make it do so.

ED E

SeamusFX wrote: »

I'm in a rural area and we are just over 2km from the village, but I see there's a new cabinet about to go live only 0.7km away as the bird flies and about 1 to 1.5 km away depending on how the wires are routed. When this cabinet eventually goes live, will there be any immediate improvement or will I have to wait for fibre to be routed from the cabinet to my house and if yes, will they automatically run fibre to my house as I'm a current Broadband customer or will I have to make a request? Also I'm currently with Vodafone, but out of contract, is there any advantage in switching back to Eircom?

Once the cab goes live you have to order an upgrade, through any provider. They give you a new socket and then change your cable over at the cab. Existing phone line stays in place. Vodafone are typically best value.

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

Unfortunately the wholesale map doesn't actually show the VDSL coverage area ... or does it and I've not spotted the magic button to make it do so.

They dont because they are doing it correctly. Covered and non covered areas doesnt make any sense at all when you're heavily dependant on legacy copper plant and how it may or may not be run. Even drawing 2KM circles around each cab isnt really honest.

Eircom retail have tried to make it "idiot friendly" with their lovely green swathes but in reality this just leads to disappointment for many.

marno21

Are eircom currently going back to do all the E01 'cabs' of previously enabled areas that had the whole exchange area enabled bar the actual exchange itself?

The rollout in rural areas seems to have stalled with very few of the areas down for May either done, or currently have no planned live date.

The retail map is badly needing an update too.

Alsalmo

I live in Naas and a "promoted" post from eircom appeared in my Twitter account yesterday inviting me to sign up for 1,000 Mbps broadband.

We have had up to 100 Mb for a while (I get about 57), and wonder if this is happening, or is promised, for many locations.

Nollog

Alsalmo wrote: »

I live in Naas and a "promoted" post from eircom appeared in my Twitter account yesterday inviting me to sign up for 1,000 Mbps broadband.

We have had up to 100 Mb for a while (I get about 57), and wonder if this is happening, or is promised, for many locations.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057315844&page=48 66 Towns

So far reports from Letterkenny, Drogheda, Wexford Town, Castlebar, Kilkenny, Naas, Sanyford, Sligo, Tralee, Carrigaline, Cavan, Douglas, Ennis and Greystones.

gerryk

Alsalmo wrote: »

I live in Naas and a "promoted" post from eircom appeared in my Twitter account yesterday inviting me to sign up for 1,000 Mbps broadband.

We have had up to 100 Mb for a while (I get about 57), and wonder if this is happening, or is promised, for many locations.

Really? Wow... and I'm still getting <3Mb

thund3rbird_

Portlawslim wrote: »

Saw a KN engineer at my local cab today and my colour has changed on the map to a nearer date. saw to lads pulling cable to the cab on Tuesday.
what I'm wondering is do they pull cable to the location of the cab before the put the new fibre cab in place?
I'm thinking it could be a new line for the newly built fire station around the corner from me but the cable looked fairly hefty....here's hoping

FYI - been a while since your post but fibre will allegedly be available 29th July

you prob already got post off eircom telling you you are in an efibre area

lawred2

how far into this rollout are we? 50%, 75% etc

ED E

lawred2 wrote: »

how far into this rollout are we? 50%, 75% etc

you can count the cabs on the map if you like...

lawred2

ED E wrote: »

you can count the cabs on the map if you like...

lol fu*k that

so no official stats then

Johnboy1951

lawred2 wrote: »

lol fu*k that

so no official stats then

My local village is at 0% .... none of the proposed cabs are built out yet

lawred2

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

My local village is at 0% .... none of the proposed cabs are built out yet

bk

lawred2 wrote: »

how far into this rollout are we? 50%, 75% etc

1.2 million premises as of June this year.

1.9 million by 2016

http://www.openeir.ie/news/NGA_rollout_extended_to_1_9M_premises/

lawred2

bk wrote: »

1.2 million premises as of June this year.

1.9 million by 2016

http://www.openeir.ie/news/NGA_rollout_extended_to_1_9M_premises/

63%

I hope we're somewhere in the outstanding 37%

Petroglyph

I'm in Naas, and a sales rep just called to the door. Offered TV, broadband and phone for 30euro for the first 4 months and then 60euro after (website says it goes up to 77). Not a bad deal - currently on UPC for 79 a month.

Tempting, but would like to hear some feedback on the service.

murphaph

lawred2 wrote: »

63%

I hope we're somewhere in the outstanding 37%

I think it's actually 1.6m FTTC planned by 2016 (it was 1.4 and they added another 200k to the plan last year). The other 300k would be via FTTH (the outlying ribbon development within a few km of towns usually). If you are in a built up area (not ribbon or one off) you've a fair shot of being covered by FTTC, unless you are direct fed from the exchange, in which case eVDSL might be of benefit, depending on distance to exchange.

bk

Actually it is a little confusing and Eircom say different numbers in different press releases.

Putting them all together, I believe 1.2 million is 50% of all Irish premises, that is where they were as of June.

They plan on hitting 1.6 million (70% of all) by 2016 and 1.9 million (80% of all) by 2020.

That leaves 20% (480,000) premises for the NBP.

bk

Petroglyph wrote: »

Tempting, but would like to hear some feedback on the service.

I assume that if VDSL/FTTC, not FTTH.

VDSL/FTTC only goes up to a maximum of 100Mb/s, but it depends on your distance form the exchange. It can be as low as 7Mb/s. UPC on the other hand offer a real 240Mb/s

Also their TV service operates over IPTV and isn't so great. As it operates over IPTV it actually takes as much as 20Mb/s of you broadband. UPC TV on the other hand doesn't effect their broadband.

To be honest, I wouldn't risk it for the sake of a few euros. What I would do is call UPC, tell them this offer Eircom has made you and that you are thinking of moving, usually UPC will give you a special deal for 6 months that at least matches what Eircom offered in order to keep you.

So you end up keeping the better service, pay less and don;t have the trouble of switching.

12 element

I know there's probably no definite answer for this but does anyone know how long it normally takes for the fibre cab to go live after it is installed beside the copper cab? My local cabinet had just been put in place!

jca

12 element wrote: »

I know there's probably no definite answer for this but does anyone know how long it normally takes for the fibre cab to go live after it is installed beside the copper cab? My local cabinet had just been put in place!

I have fttc since Dec 2013 I was one of the first to be connected to my cabinet according to the KN guy. The fibre cabinet was placed in the August, powered up in November and went live the first week in December. Four months of nail biting torture:pac:. Hard to believe I have fttc almost 2 years.

lawred2

Petroglyph wrote: »

I'm in Naas, and a sales rep just called to the door. Offered TV, broadband and phone for 30euro for the first 4 months and then 60euro after (website says it goes up to 77). Not a bad deal - currently on UPC for 79 a month.

Tempting, but would like to hear some feedback on the service.

You would be clinically insane to leave UPC for eircom

mikedoherty99

Why is the efibre rollout so slow?

Wouldn't it be better to hire a load more staff and get it done quickly.There seemed to be no problem when it was water meters to be installed

bk

mikedoherty99 wrote: »

Why is the efibre rollout so slow?

Wouldn't it be better to hire a load more staff and get it done quickly.There seemed to be no problem when it was water meters to be installed

Slow!! The FTTC rollout has been one of the quickest rollouts of a broadband network I've seen anywhere in Europe!

As for the reason you can't simply hire more staff like that, is because it is a fairly skilled job that requires a good bit of training. Not any old builder can just learn to splice fiber and the fiber splicing gear is really expensive so that limits the number of crews you can have.

Installing water meters is incredibly simple in comparison, just dig a hole and attach meter to a water pipe.

Installing FTTC involves, pushing fiber through ducts, slicing fiber, building a base for the FTTC cab, bringing electric power to the cab, installing the cab on the base, connecting the fiber and power to the cab, connecting the copper from the copper cab to the FTTC cab.

Way more complicated and skilled then installing water meters.

Also there is probably the issue of how quickly Huawei could build the FTTC cabs, which are rather complicated pieces of equipment.

mikedoherty99

bk wrote: »

Installing FTTC involves, pushing fiber through ducts, slicing fiber, building a base for the FTTC cab, bringing electric power to the cab, installing the cab on the base, connecting the fiber and power to the cab, connecting the copper from the copper cab to the FTTC cab.
.

Only a small.portion of the works you outlined appears to be highly skilled

bk

mikedoherty99 wrote: »

Only a small.portion of the works you outlined appears to be highly skilled

Really, you think all of the following looks easy and unskilled!













Note the pictures above are from BT in the UK, but the process is exactly the same for Eircom here.

I'll remind you the both the electrification of Ireland and building the phone network took decades. While obviously not as complicated, the fact that Eircom has rolled out FTTC to 1.2million homes in just 3 years is outstanding progress and long may it last.