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Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭hellboy99


    roast wrote: »
    Some of those cabs are live, the majority are anyway AFAIK, no?
    They are, don't know what's going on now, I've been getting numerous different dates to "won't be available in my area" and yet there's a VDSL cab behind my house connected to my estate with power and the yellow sticker on it and now Castletown is off the map :confused:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    A Quick update on the checker saying most of my estate could get efibre ,

    KN networks were in with ESB today digging up the power I can only presume and relaying it again , not sure why , but if there was an issue there then I doubt an one was getting it !

    Il be skulking around tomorrow to see if I can catch an Eircom Engineer


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    hellboy99 wrote: »
    They are, don't know what's going on now, I've been getting numerous different dates to "won't be available in my area" and yet there's a VDSL cab behind my house connected to my estate with power and the yellow sticker on it and now Castletown is off the map :confused:

    Whats the number on the sticker, do you know?


  • Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭KpsCowley


    Expecting efiber installation here in Westport Co.Mayo in about three weeks time. 50mb promised, will post speeds after installation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭hellboy99


    roast wrote: »
    Whats the number on the sticker, do you know?
    I'll check tomorrow


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  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭raymix


    Guys, help me out here... is Vodafone an obvious choice for fibre?
    I mean... Eircom will cost 50€/m for 50Mbps package in 6 months while Vodafone is at 35€/m for 70Mbps package
    Both unlimited.

    Am I missing something?

    I am at ~400m from 2 different cabinets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    raymix wrote: »
    Guys, help me out here... is Vodafone an obvious choice for fibre?
    I mean... Eircom will cost 50€/m for 50Mbps package in 6 months while Vodafone is at 35€/m for 70Mbps package
    Both unlimited.

    Am I missing something?

    I am at ~400m from 2 different cabinets.

    I haven't looked into the prices much but don't be fooled by the advertised speeds. Vodafones offer is 'up to' 70, not 70.
    At 400m from the cab, ~50 is what you should expect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭jantheman91


    Any news on the Kilcock area?


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 tarakino


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    Mahon in Cork eFibre now available.
    Check to get it, my house is not yet in an eFibre area!

    Might phone them tomorrow.

    Another check says I should be enjoying eFibre ????

    which map are you checking? The eircom map is still showing a jul-sep go live date


  • Registered Users Posts: 291 ✭✭5.11 Tactical


    I see the map is now saying Dundalk October rather than July Sept. I hope this means that the 25 Sept date for cabs going live is confirmed and that orders taken after that will be installed in Oct. Also I could be mistaken but I think there used to be another separate area on the map for the Castletown exchange, now gone and a big chunk of the map previously shaded is not now for upgrade.

    Also Blackrock is now Dec, was Oct Dec before.

    Yeah I see that now I think they were too ambitious in getting all the cabinets done in Dundalk but to be honest I would surprised to see the whole town live before the new year...

    But only plus is that it gives time for the prices of the service to come down and not have stupid caps etc... Anyhow heres hoping !!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    New cab being installed at Ashbrook,Enniscorthy.This one was delayed by a NIMBY who has no interest in the greater good.

    Any update on the actual launch date for Enniscorthy? We've had more dates than an escort agency at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭hellboy99


    Regarding the Castletown exchange in Dundalk now off the map, just been speaking to Eircoms eFirbe team, it's currently been tested and should be available in the next 2 - 4 weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Has something changed on the checker for you recently or whats prompting you to say Fibre is now available in Mahon?

    Last week the Map was saying Aug/Sep ~ the map is now saying it's available and I'm pretty much in the middle of the area.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    tarakino wrote: »
    which map are you checking? The eircom map is still showing a jul-sep go live date

    http://www.eircom.net/efibreinfo/map/

    272646.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 tarakino


    Very strange?! Just checked it now and it's showing jul-sep.
    Called e fibre team in eircom and they said it should go live within 2-3 weeks


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    There is a massive slow down by Eircom on this rollout

    Have they

    A) Ran out of money
    B) Had a fallout with their supplier(s) / subcontractor(s)
    C) Is it just a temporary slow down


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    Praetorian wrote: »
    There is a massive slow down by Eircom on this rollout

    Have they

    A) Ran out of money
    B) Had a fallout with their supplier(s) / subcontractor(s)
    C) Is it just a temporary slow down

    Not a slowdown as such. The initial roll out was very fast, faster than they expected. Volume of cabs increasing and local issues creeping in as well.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Peter Walsh: Newbridge has been July to September for nearly 6 months
    Liam: This only shows one cabinet in the area and not all the local cabinets.
    Peter Walsh: Now its saying it will launch in 2014
    Peter Walsh: http://www.eircom.net/efibreinfo/map/
    Peter Walsh: Thats the one I am on about
    Liam: Once available you will get a letter.
    Liam: efibe once available you will get a letter to say this.
    Liam: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
    Peter Walsh: Ok the maps says 2014
    Peter Walsh: but the oinline checker says now
    Peter Walsh: Congratulations! Your home can get our best value eFibre broadband bundles We checked 1 KILBELIN ABBEY, NEWBRIDGE
    Peter Walsh: whats correct ?
    Liam: One moment please, I'll check that for you...
    Liam: Yes this is a efibre area.
    Liam: You can order now. The map only shows one cabinet in the area and not all the local cabinets sp the next one will be 2014.
    Peter Walsh: Its a bit misleading , sure not to worry thanks for your help


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭lockup35




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    And there's Eircom maxed out in terms of speed for another 10 years. :)


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    how reliable is the line checker with eircom,? when I put in my number it says my area will upgrade to Fibre November 2013, I know for a fact that the nearest cabinet to me is almost 2km away, by line length it could be further for all I know, does this mean Eircom will connect me to the fibre network when it's available or does this checker just give an automatic 'fibre to your area' message to every phone number that's listed in a given exchange, even if your number/line is too far from a cabinet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    I'm genuinely impressed with how fast this FTTC technology is being rolled out.

    I'm hoping that they manage to get it out to some smaller places too.

    Many of the smallest exchanges are not much more than the capacity of 1 or 2 FTTC cabinets anyway!

    It could turnout as a far more useful technology than ADSL for Ireland's smaller villages and towns because it's so distributed.

    It's a bit like when cost effective, distributed small digital telephone exchange made it possible to get decent telephone services to small towns in the late 70s and early 80s.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    I'm genuinely impressed with how fast this FTTC technology is being rolled out.

    I'm hoping that they manage to get it out to some smaller places too.

    Many of the smallest exchanges are not much more than the capacity of 1 or 2 FTTC cabinets anyway!

    It could turnout as a far more useful technology than ADSL for Ireland's smaller villages and towns because it's so distributed.

    It's a bit like when cost effective, distributed small digital telephone exchange made it possible to get decent telephone services to small towns in the late 70s and early 80s.

    only problem is that Eircom are mainly just installing the fibre cabinets in 'urban areas' of towns such as main streets and housing estates, leaving the less built-up districts of many exchanges completely untouched which often accounts for up to 60% of an exchange region. It just seems as if this technology was meant for people in the more rural areas of finally being able to get a chance of achieving speeds better than 1-8meg but unfortunately the cabinets are just not being installed beyond the urban boundaries of most towns.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    Gonzo wrote: »
    how reliable is the line checker with eircom,? when I put in my number it says my area will upgrade to Fibre November 2013, I know for a fact that the nearest cabinet to me is almost 2km away, by line length it could be further for all I know, does this mean Eircom will connect me to the fibre network when it's available or does this checker just give an automatic 'fibre to your area' message to every phone number that's listed in a given exchange, even if your number/line is too far from a cabinet?

    That appears to be the case all right but not all lines will qualify.
    Nothing new there though. It's the same for adsl. It may be available in an exchange but not to all lines.

    The fibre 'extended reach' launch should help you and many more though.
    It'll extend the current 1km limit out to 2km. At 2km you should be able to get 7 down and 1 up.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    kaizersoze wrote: »
    That appears to be the case all right but not all lines will qualify.
    Nothing new there though. It's the same for adsl. It may be available in an exchange but not to all lines.

    The fibre 'extended reach' launch should help you and many more though.
    It'll extend the current 1km limit out to 2km. At 2km you should be able to get 7 down and 1 up.

    Im hoping at 2km it will do more than that? Im almost 3km by line length from my exchange, currently on ADSL2+ and get between 8 and 9 megs so 7down and 1up would be slower than what I have right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Gonzo wrote: »
    only problem is that Eircom are mainly just installing the fibre cabinets in 'urban areas' of towns such as main streets and housing estates, leaving the less built-up districts of many exchanges completely untouched which often accounts for up to 60% of an exchange region. It just seems as if this technology was meant for people in the more rural areas of finally being able to get a chance of achieving speeds better than 1-8meg but unfortunately the cabinets are just not being installed beyond the urban boundaries of most towns.

    It's got huge potential though if it were even installed in villages and rural housing estates it would be a massive improvement. It only needs 100 or so lines to justify putting in a cabinet.

    Even if it were initially only covering people in towns and villages, it has a lot more potential than ADSL from a single exchange based DSLAM.

    Some of the rural exchanges really are just the voice and ISDN equivalent of one of those cabinets or two at a push. They're often really very small remote units that are managed and run by a larger exchange somewhere else.

    There are also very small VDSL cabinets that can be pole mounted which would be ideal for anything down to about 30 lines!

    You can also run ADSL2+ ports from an FTTC cabinet to deliver service on lines too long fruit VDSL2.


  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Mgit


    roast wrote: »
    And there's Eircom maxed out in terms of speed for another 10 years. :)

    Wouldnt be so sure, see attached. With bonding up to 300mb/s is achievable and eircom is likely to exhaust every possible method of maxing out the copper before putting in ftth. By the time they get that far vdsl3 could be invented for all we know to extend copper life even more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    They're not the only operator with those ideas! FTTC is suddenly being reassessed in France for example because Orange/France Telecom couldn't justify the costs of FTTH in suburban low density areas. FTTC is about 10X cheaper.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    It's got huge potential though if it were even installed in villages and rural housing estates it would be a massive improvement. It only needs 100 or so lines to justify putting in a cabinet.

    There are also very small VDSL cabinets that can be pole mounted which would be ideal for anything down to about 30 lines!

    I presume Eircom do not mount vdsl cabinets on poles in situations like this which would be perfect for my area and many other people who are just being left out?....These could be placed around remaining areas of enabled exchanges finally giving everyone a chance of decent broadband.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Gonzo wrote: »
    I presume Eircom do not mount vdsl cabinets on poles in situations like this which would be perfect for my area and many other people who are just being left out?....These could be placed around remaining areas of enabled exchanges finally giving everyone a chance of decent broadband.

    Not yet anyway but the technology exists and it's cheap. They can be installed really easily.

    If you're in an area like that I would suggest hammering you local TDs to keep pressure on eircom, the dept of communication and comreg


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