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Instances of Groupthink

  • 22-02-2012 7:45pm
    #1
    willmunny1990
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭


    Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within groups of people. It is the mode of thinking that happens when the desire for harmony in a decision-making group overrides a realistic appraisal of alternatives. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints.

    One recent instance of it that I can remember was when liverpool fans and the club convinced themselves that their player (suarez) didnt racially abuse a rival player. Despite all the evidence that pointed towards his guilt, they convinced themselves that the evidence didn't exist and made up stuff like the guy that claimed he was abused (evra) had a history of playing the race card, even though he didnt.

    Pearl Harbour is a famous example. Americans had convinced themselves that the Japs would never dare attack them. And even if they did have the balls to attack, the Americans once again convinced themselves that they would detect and intercept the attack easily.

    Were you ever caught up in groupthink and look back now and realize how foolish you were, or can you think of other interesting examples of it?


Comments

  • #2
    PseudoFamous
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    Ireland: 2007. The Irish people thought themselves economically infallible, Employment was at an all time low, one of the highest GDP per capita thoughout the world.


  • #3
    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Like everybody on Boards i thought your ma was hot was the reason to sleep with her but it turns that she's just a slut.


  • #4
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,101 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    What is this, business studies for the leaving cert or something? Next you'll be asking me to evaluate porter's five forces.


  • #5
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Yeah, when my twin said, 'Ooooh look at that, let's go investigate'.


    Long story short, I'm alive now.


  • #6
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,258 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Do your own homework OP!


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  • #7
    blatantrereg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    troll fail OP

    or whatever it is you're trying to do.

    people in general decline to recognise my awesomeness because they prefer to think I'm not that awesome


  • #8
    chin_grin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Group-think.
    Hive-mind.
    Sheeple.

    Same thing.


  • #9
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    The Challenger Disaster is another example.

    So is the "soft landing" term and subprime mortgages.


  • #10
    Anita Blow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within groups of people. It is the mode of thinking that happens when the desire for harmony in a decision-making group overrides a realistic appraisal of alternatives. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints.
    Literally sounds exactly like every EU Approach to the recent crisis


  • #11
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Group-think.
    Hive-mind.
    Sheeple.

    Same thing.


    You're exactly wrong


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  • #12
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Quite a bit of it going on in this thread!


  • #13
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within groups of people. It is the mode of thinking that happens when the desire for harmony in a decision-making group overrides a realistic appraisal of alternatives. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints.

    One recent instance of it that I can remember was when liverpool fans and the club convinced themselves that their player (suarez) didnt racially abuse a rival player. Despite all the evidence that pointed towards his guilt, they convinced themselves that the evidence didn't exist and made up stuff like the guy that claimed he was abused (evra) had a history of playing the race card, even though he didnt.

    Pearl Harbour is a famous example. Americans had convinced themselves that the Japs would never dare attack them. And even if they did have the balls to attack, the Americans once again convinced themselves that they would detect and intercept the attack easily.

    Were you ever caught up in groupthink and look back now and realize how foolish you were, or can you think of other interesting examples of it?
    PseudoFamous wrote: »
    Ireland: 2007. The Irish people thought themselves economically infallible, Employment was at an all time low, one of the highest GDP per capita thoughout the world.
    Hazys wrote: »
    Like everybody on Boards i thought your ma was hot was the reason to sleep with her but it turns that she's just a slut.
    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    What is this, business studies for the leaving cert or something? Next you'll be asking me to evaluate porter's five forces.
    Sindri wrote: »
    Yeah, when my twin said, 'Ooooh look at that, let's go investigate'.


    Long story short, I'm alive now.
    blatantrereg wrote: »
    troll fail OP

    or whatever it is you're trying to do.

    people in general decline to recognise my awesomeness because they prefer to think I'm not that awesome
    chin_grin wrote: »
    Group-think.
    Hive-mind.
    Sheeple.

    Same thing.
    CatFromHue wrote: »
    The Challenger Disaster is another example.

    So is the "soft landing" term and subprime mortgages.
    Anita Blow wrote: »
    Literally sounds exactly like every EU Approach to the recent crisis
    fedor.2. wrote: »
    You're exactly wrong

    I agree with this.


  • #14
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    I agree with this.

    I agree with The King of Moo


  • #15
    chin_grin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    You're exactly wrong

    That's an odd statement.

    How is universal consciousness wrong? Would you care to elaborate why I got it wrong? I think they're very similar if not the same. Educate me.


  • #16
    recylingbin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Fine Gael have the answers.


  • #17
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    People reading the OP and going :rolleyes:


  • #18
    DuPLeX
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within groups of people. It is the mode of thinking that happens when the desire for harmony in a decision-making group overrides a realistic appraisal of alternatives. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints.

    One recent instance of it that I can remember was when liverpool fans and the club convinced themselves that their player (suarez) didnt racially abuse a rival player. Despite all the evidence that pointed towards his guilt, they convinced themselves that the evidence didn't exist and made up stuff like the guy that claimed he was abused (evra) had a history of playing the race card, even though he didnt.

    Pearl Harbour is a famous example. Americans had convinced themselves that the Japs would never dare attack them. And even if they did have the balls to attack, the Americans once again convinced themselves that they would detect and intercept the attack easily.

    Were you ever caught up in groupthink and look back now and realize how foolish you were, or can you think of other interesting examples of it?
    No NO No ! and I think everyone on this forum will agree with me when I say that this can never happen.


  • #19
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Groupthink is double plus ungood

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #20
    John Doe1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    Nazi Germany


  • #21
    Sharpshooter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    No NO No ! and I think everyone on this forum will agree with me when I say that this can never happen.

    Why drag up a 3 month old thread just to post that?:confused:


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  • #22
    RATM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    Nietsczche put it well
    "Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule"


  • #23
    DuPLeX
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    Groupthink is double plus ungood

    Doubleplus 1


  • #24
    DuPLeX
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    Sharpshooter wrote: »
    Why drag up a 3 month old thread just to post that?:confused:

    ? some debates have been going on for centuries . If the thread is closed then its closed if not well then It's not
    :cool:
    feel free to call me a troll and ban me


  • #25
    Shryke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    ? some debates have been going on for centuries . If the thread is closed then its closed if not well then It's not
    :cool:
    feel free to call me a troll and ban me

    History, philosophy, enlightenment, it's all there. I'm blown away.


  • #26
    DuPLeX
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    Shryke wrote: »
    History, philosophy, enlightenment, it's all there. I'm blown away.

    Agreed


  • #27
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Can we all agree on the next post?


  • #28
    flutterflye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    This is funny.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf2PGZ0mW-U


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