Athlone - Mullingar line

flyingsnail

Cyberbeagle wrote: »

Does anyone know how Dara O'Briain, Rory McGrath and Griff Rhys Jones managed to do this on the line??

http://youtu.be/_r7nZuEAymI?t=2m33s

I am sure it’s not that hard as long as you have a large company behind you that can do the necessary health and safety paper work and provide the necessary insurance.

dennis124wwr

Cyberbeagle wrote: »

Does anyone know how Dara O'Briain, Rory McGrath and Griff Rhys Jones managed to do this on the line??

http://youtu.be/_r7nZuEAymI?t=2m33s

What did they do?

Cyberbeagle

dennis124wwr wrote: »

What did they do?

Watch the video - took a railway bike or velocipede for a spin down the line. There was no indication of any Irish Rail staff, no hi-viz vests, etc...

Grandeeod

I can assure everyone that this sequence was shot with the cooperation of Irish Rail. It started out at Mullingar station on the former Athlone platforms and proceeded with sequences shot on the velocipede along short stretches not too far from Mullingar. You do not bring a camera crew near a place like Mullingar station without clearance and public liability insurance cover of at least €5 million. I cannot say for certain if Irish Rail safety people were with them, but if they were, they would be kept out of shot so as to lend authenticity to the particular sequence. While the sequence looks spontaneous, it actually requires a lot of planning and shooting. The entire programme requires similar techniques to give the impression it creates.

Cyberbeagle

Grandeeod wrote: »

I can assure everyone that this sequence was shot with the cooperation of Irish Rail. It started out at Mullingar station on the former Athlone platforms and proceeded with sequences shot on the velocipede along short stretches not too far from Mullingar. You do not bring a camera crew near a place like Mullingar station without clearance and public liability insurance cover of at least €5 million. I cannot say for certain if Irish Rail safety people were with them, but if they were, they would be kept out of shot so as to lend authenticity to the particular sequence. While the sequence looks spontaneous, it actually requires a lot of planning and shooting. The entire programme requires similar techniques to give the impression it creates.

Knowing how a shoot is undertaken I would have been very surprised if that was not the case, however it does create the impression that they just turned up - no IE managers interviewed for a simple "is it okay if we do this?" type setup and from an editorial point of view is risky as it could encourage copycat activity on the line.

So my beef is more with the producers rather than IE for poor editorial judgement, in terms of how the sequence was presented - it did give the impression that this was the sort of thing that members of the public could arrange to do and that was misleading.

Grandeeod

Cyberbeagle wrote: »

Knowing how a shoot is undertaken I would have been very surprised if that was not the case, however it does create the impression that they just turned up - no IE managers interviewed for a simple "is it okay if we do this?" type setup and from an editorial point of view is risky as it could encourage copycat activity on the line.

So my beef is more with the producers rather than IE for poor editorial judgement, in terms of how the sequence was presented - it did give the impression that this was the sort of thing that members of the public could arrange to do and that was misleading.

I really can't comment on the sequence from a legal viewpoint, but you are right about how the shoot would have been shot as i alluded to. The finished product could very easily be taken as a free for all, but this is how TV is shot and I guess that Irish Rail would be more responsible for any misunderstandings that followed. There are a multitude of railway related TV shows that project a loose attitude in order to secure dramatic narrative.

corktina

I find it hard to believe that IE would give it Editorial Approval in the same year as the British Board of Censors received their first complaint about The Railway Children!

It would give bored teenagers the impression that it's OK to strap two bikes together and ride along the New Ross, Youghal or Burma Road (or perhaps an operational line!) Someone dropped one for sure (great TV though!)

demanufactured

Do you think they got the mullingar - moate token out for them??

Cyberbeagle

corktina wrote: »

I find it hard to believe that IE would give it Editorial Approval in the same year as the British Board of Censors received their first complaint about The Railway Children!

It would give bored teenagers the impression that it's OK to strap two bikes together and ride along the New Ross, Youghal or Burma Road (or perhaps an operational line!) Someone dropped one for sure (great TV though!)

Editorial approval is on behalf of the producers, not Irish Rail. But I would've expected Irish Rail to have insisted prior to giving permission that it was clear that this was a unique one-off they were allowing.

So yes, that is the jist of why I think it was poor way it was edited/filmed.

dennis124wwr

So whats going in the line so far.

dennis124wwr

The disused railway line going from Athlone to Mullingar

dennis124wwr

The picture is was taken at around 1970-80. It is a train in Moate.

dennis124wwr

I have some news about the railway

goingnowhere

dennis124wwr wrote: »

The picture is was taken at around 1970-80. It is a train in Moate.

1976 at the earliest as its an 071, and since it seems to be marked SA, it would put it in the early/mid 1980's

Eiretrains

dennis124wwr wrote: »

The disused railway line going from Athlone to Mullingar

That's a J M.Allen photo, it was August 1987, details here.:cool:
http://eiretrains.com/Photo_Gallery/Railway%20Stations%20M/Moate/slides/Moate_20090801_001_CC_JA.html

dennis124wwr

What is SA

dennis124wwr

Does anyone have more pictures of train 71

flyingsnail

dennis124wwr wrote: »

What is SA

S= Train is fitted with air and vacuum brakes
A= train is fitted with CAWS

corktina

dennis124wwr wrote: »

I have some news about the railway

yes?

dennis124wwr

And what is going on the line so far

dennis124wwr

They are making the Dublin Galway Walking way or something. It is going to be started in 2014. On the railway there was irish rail people on the line so it is very likey that the railway is going to be a walkway or something

dennis124wwr

Did somebody walk the line.

flazio

dennis124wwr wrote: »

Did somebody walk the line.

Yeah, Johnny Cash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7K4jH7NqUw

dennis124wwr

flazio wrote: »

Yeah, Johnny Cash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7K4jH7NqUw

Who is he.

Losty Dublin

dennis124wwr wrote: »

Who is he.

He's the ex-stationmaster in Moate.

Cyberbeagle

dennis124wwr wrote: »

I have some news about the railway

Well, this is new.

We now have to guess what the stories are now?

dennis124wwr

Is there anymore Irish Rail people on the line?

cml387

dennis124wwr wrote: »

Is there anymore Irish Rail people on the line?

You ask a lot of questions,Padawan.

dennis124wwr

cml387 wrote: »

You ask a lot of questions,Padawan.

Sorry

Sligo Quay

dennis124wwr wrote: »

Sorry

Nothing to be sorry about, I love reading the answers to your questions. The answer in 126 was hilarious, now we wouldn'd have got that answer if you didn't ask the question.

dennis124wwr

Sligo Quay wrote: »

Nothing to be sorry about, I love reading the answers to your questions.

Thank you. You are nice

Sligo Quay

dennis124wwr wrote: »

Thank you. You are nice

Don't get carried away, Im not in a good mood, Im flying to UK tomorrow, then sail to Rotterdam, then 2weeks in Japan and Korea, messy. When the mood is bad Im anything but nice. BON VOYAGE!

dennis124wwr

Its ok, you will be happy - someday

demanufactured

No I haven't seen anyone else working on the line.
I think they only cleared it because of pressure from the council about how it looked.

dennis124wwr

People from Irish Rail and CIE want to fence off the line

dennis124wwr

If they still keeped working on the line they could have reopened it anytime. But they just left it now if they have to fix the briges lift up the rails to put on more sleepers and so on

Grandeeod

dennis124wwr wrote: »

If they still keeped working on the line they could have reopened it anytime. But they just left it now if they have to fix the briges lift up the rails to put on more sleepers and so on

May I ask you where you are from?

dennis124wwr

Grandeeod wrote: »

May I ask you where you are from?

Galway

demanufactured

http://www.flickr.com/photos/be216cd1/sets/72157633759839850/

dowlingm

Seems to me Mullingar would be a good spot for a Drogheda style depot one day. Given the economy one day not very soon obviously

shamwari

Some photo's of then and now on the line

http://eiretrains.com/Photo_Gallery/Railway%20Stations%20M/Moate/IrishRailwayStations.html

demanufactured

Drove by moate station the other day.....
Looks terrible.

dennis124wwr

A old map of railways

Here:

dennis124wwr

This might be a better one

dowlingm

the Viceregal Map linked on this page is pretty high res.

Markcheese

dowlingm wrote: »

the Viceregal Map linked on this page is pretty high res.

The bottom map (in green) that shows the reduction in rail over the century is kind of sad really.... But most of the lines must have been pure pipe dreams, literally roads to nowhere...

TheBody

Where did the Dublin Sligo line fork off to go to Cavan?

dregin

TheBody wrote: »

Where did the Dublin Sligo line fork off to go to Cavan?

Looks like it was at Inny Junction.

http://eiretrains.com/Photo_Gallery/Railway%20Stations%20I/Inny%20Junction/IrishRailwayStations.html

dregin

A video here:

dennis124wwr

Is the Athlone Mullingar line to do with the Streamstown to Clara line because on the map you can see Streamstown near Moate and it is on the line.