Help with an Aritech cd7210

Paolone

Hy to all of you thi is my first tread an i thank you in advance.

I have bought an Aritech cd7210.

I connected the keyboard with a 4x0,22
I attached the current
I did not put any resistance on the outputs,
I turn it on
The keyboard lights up the LED "230 vac" and the display tells you the version and then writes "system Allr"

but after about twenty seconds the dispay resets itself, it turn off the green lights and then it turn on again.
The keybord don't accept the technical code and the operator code

What can be?

checking with the tester, the entry of the current tab (from the transformer) is approximately 19V

the outputs of the various zones are 5.1 v

the outputs of the internal sounder, external sounder, battery, power supply and points A and B on the bus are all 14v circa

even when the keyboard turns itself off and on again, on the card outputs the voltages are constant,

since there are 3 keyboards I tried them all one per time, (making the swith To all down as the first keyboard) but always the same error.

Give me a hand please

Paolo

altor

Sounds like an issue with the control panel rather than the keypads then. It is an old systen.

KoolKid

Have you measured the voltage coming from A & B at the panel?
19 volts seems very high?
You say you bought this panel? From who/where?
This is a very old system. Is it defaulted?
Make sure all the dips are correctly set on the keypads
all off for KP1
1 on for keypad 2
2 on for kepaad 3.
Only Keypad 1 should initally respond. You must then , in engineer mode, goto Keypads Remotes> Install remotes > Press the correct key. It should show kkk then press the correct key again.
All keypads should then come online.

altor

If the system is second hand then it may just need to be defaulted back to factory settings.

KoolKid

I'd still be concerned re the 19vdc .

altor

More than likely he is taking about the output current off the transformer, 19vac.
He is correct if this is the case

KoolKid

Yeah reading it again I think thats what he's saying all right.
I'd say the keypads just need to be installed.
I'm baffled if he's just bough this new.

altor

More than likely second hand.

Jnealon

KoolKid wrote: »

I'd still be concerned re the 19vdc .

19VAC is about right, no need to panic.
Everything else sounds fine except that it's an ancient panel.
I've a spare cd95 which has been on the shelve for nearly 10 years, I rekon it's for the bin at this stage never mind installing it

KoolKid

Jnealon wrote: »

19VAC is about right, no need to panic.

KoolKid wrote: »

Yeah reading it again I think thats what he's saying all right..

Yeah, I did read that wrong the first time.

Paolone

Hy to all of you,

Thanks to your answer,

I have bought the unit as second hand,

19vac is output current off the transformer and also in the installation manual it wuold be correct.

Yesterday i have put to all the zone on the central a 4k7 resistor and i have close the tamper exit, like page 12 onthe installation manual ( http://www.dacaelectric.it/pubblic/manuali%20schemi/Antifurto/Aritech/Aritech%20advisor%20cd72010%20installazione.PDF )

The central does'n accept the technical code and the operator code,
and after 5 attempt start on the display: tamper code and a countdown from 60second to zero.

every 10/20secons reboot the dispay on the first and only keyboard installed and show the version again and then show sistem allrm

Is there any way to reset it with tamper mode on without the techical code?
because i think that code is incorrect.

Thanks

Paolo

KoolKid

Try defaulting the system.
Power down totally and remove the factory link LK 1.

power up with just the first keypad connected with all dips off.
If its defaulted you will be presented with language select screen.
Press arrow up 1.

Paolone

KoolKid wrote: »

Try defaulting the system.
Power down totally and remove the factory link LK 1.

power up with just the first keypad connected with all dips off.
If its defaulted you will be presented with language select screen.
Press arrow up 1.

If there isn't the tamper code the i insert the default techical code,
but if the unit has the tamper on i need the technical code, ins't it so?
or is there some trick to resolve the problem?
Thanks

Paolo

altor

Paolone wrote: »

If there isn't the tamper code the i insert the default techical code,
but if the unit has the tamper on i need the technical code, ins't it so?
or is there some trick to resolve the problem?
Thanks

Paolo

If the default does not work then the system is engineer locked.
Only an engineer will be able to default the system for you.

The tamper code is if you enter the wrong user code to turn the system to many times.
If again you tried to default the system and it did not work then the default code wont work and that is why you are getting the code tamper.

Paolone

altor wrote: »

If the default does not work then the system is engineer locked.
Only an engineer will be able to default the system for you.

The tamper code is if you enter the wrong user code to turn the system to many times.
If again you tried to default the system and it did not work then the default code wont work and that is why you are getting the code tamper.

At the moment i have not default the sistem because i dont' know if there is the engineer lock.
I thougnt that the tamper code was the engineer lock and not only the attention when you insert a wrong user code.

The tamper code is not the engineer code, right?
How can i know if there is the engineer lock before to default the unit?

Paolo

altor

Paolone wrote: »

At the moment i have not default the sistem because i dont' know if there is the engineer lock.
I thougnt that the tamper code was the engineer lock and not only the attention when you insert a wrong user code.

The tamper code is not the engineer code, right?
How can i know if there is the engineer lock before to default the unit?

Paolo

The only way to know is to try the default. There will be a user and engineer code on the system.

Paolone

If i default the sistem, the keybord stop reboot itself? (someone sasy it does it because don't see the remotes and it try to reinstall them)

altor

Paolone wrote: »

If i default the sistem, the keybord stop reboot itself? (someone sasy it does it because don't see the remotes and it try to reinstall them)

It will see keypad 1, the other keypads would need to be enrolled on the system in engineer mode.

Paolone

Hy

If I reset the system by removing the JP1 and giving power,
The unit should reset itelf and I could use the default code (if I find the right one)
or always serves the user code?

because tonight I tried a code and tells me after the command:

"impossible to disconnect"

and then pressing another button says:

"invalid key"

What can be?

altor

Paolone wrote: »

Hy

If I reset the system by removing the JP1 and giving power,
The unit should reset itelf and I could use the default code (if I find the right one)
or always serves the user code?

because tonight I tried a code and tells me after the command:

"impossible to disconnect"

and then pressing another button says:

"invalid key"

What can be?

The system is engineer locked if it did not default.

KoolKid

If the system sucessfully defaults the user code would be 01122 & the engineer code would be 01278 .
There are no other codes.

Paolone

The European unit don't accept 4 digits but 5 digits,

on the manual the user code would be 77777 & the engineer code would be 85222.

Now i'm going to default the sistem taking off the jp1 switch

altor

Paolone wrote: »

The European unit don't accept 4 digits but 5 digits,

on the manual the user code would be 77777 & the engineer code would be 85222.

Now i'm going to default the sistem taking off the jp1 switch

Have you not tried to default the system?
Where did you get the system?

KoolKid

Paolone wrote: »

The European unit don't accept 4 digits but 5 digits,

on the manual the user code would be 77777 & the engineer code would be 85222.

Now i'm going to default the sistem taking off the jp1 switch

God only knows what firmware this is so.
Really not worth the hassle if you ask me.

Paolone

I have defaulted the unit end it works with the European default code (77777) (85222)

Thanks to all of you

Paolo

altor

Paolone wrote: »

I have defaulted the unit end it works with the European default code (77777) (85222)

Thanks to all of you

Paolo

Your welcome, hope you have fun with it

KoolKid

Paolone wrote: »

I have defaulted the unit end it works with the European default code (77777) (85222)

Thanks to all of you

Paolo

Have you got the 3 keypads working Ok now?