Pet Hate - Unfiltered Americanisms

kfallon

Conway635 wrote: »

My (now ex) wife, when we were on the verge of splitting up, having watched to many episodes of Melrose Place and Ally McBeal announced that she was going to ask her lawyer solicitor to "attach your future earnings".

C635

FYP

c_man

Yeah, damn Americanisms.


Now let's start a thread about Irish/Hiberno-English words that have spread internationally and clap ourselves on the back.

marnie d

Thought of another one, apartement instead of flat....aaaaaggghhhh!!!

lesserspottedchloe

http://vimeo.com/m/3829682

The King of Moo

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Another: "Loving the x,y,z" posts on fb etc. What's wrong with, "I love this picture". Why does it have to be "loving this picture"? Urgh.... It does NOT make you sound cool...

It's grammatically incorrect to boot, with "to love" being a state verb, thus not existing in an "-ing" form.

Quite apart from particular words and phrases; one thing I really hate is a high rising terminal? When someone's voice goes up at the end of a sentence, regardless of whether it's a statement or question?
I know some Australians do it, but it seems to be more common in some American, mostly west-coast accents? It just makes the speaker sound more stupid? Like they constantly have to ask questions as though they exist in a permanent state of confusion? But the worst thing, which I've noticed it a lot on Boards, is people actually typing a question mark at the end of a statement, especially if it's one that expresses some level of confusion? Exactly like this?
It really annoys me?

Also, I'm not sure if the following is derived from American English, but I think it might be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXO5ffjAufE

Jamie Starr

I COULD CARE LESS.

So what you're saying is that you actually do care, and it would be possible for you to care less.

krudler

who cares? people use different isms from different places, Irish ones are just as bad, seeing Irish people use "taytos" as a all encompassing term for crisps or chips while abroad is cringey,just change it depending on which country you're in.

breedie

I hate when people tell me they have (or haven't) "caught (any particular) movie" yet. What's wrong with just going to see a 'fillum'............?

mikemac1

Tipperary are the winningest team in hurling

I love that word

krudler

breedie wrote: »

I hate when people tell me they have (or haven't) "caught (any particular) movie" yet. What's wrong with just going to see a 'fillum'............?

another irishism i hate, "de fillums" or "de picshurs"

Funglegunk

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Can I get a breakfast roll, no hash browns? Can I get a chicken baguette? Can I get a pint there Michael when you're ready?

Sounds like something out of Friends all right.

Exactly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying 'can I get' something.

The King of Moo

"Why are you hating on me?"

"Because you use inappropriate modern American slang that sounds stupid."

There's two things wrong here.

First, like "to love," "to hate" is a state verb so strictly, it can't take an "-ing" form.

Second, why the "on?" What does it add? Does it make the sentence sound better? No.
Does it change the meaning? No.
Don't put it in there then.

How is "I'm hating on Mondays" an improvement on "I hate Mondays?"

It's just slightly longer, which I find strange as most Americanisms are based upon the principle of shortening words and phrases.

With regard to "winningest," as mentioned above, I happily haven't heard any Irish people use that yet.
I think the first time I heard it used was by Homer Simpson and assumed it was a made-up word to mean "most successful" to show he's stupid.
Then I went to America and saw it used seriously in sports articles in the newspapers.

It reminds me of "phenom," short for "phenomenon." I first encountered it watching WWF, when Jim Ross would call The Undertaker "The Phenom." I though he was saying "The Thaenom," which I imagined was the name of some obscure demon.
But again, sports reports in American newspapers taught me otherwise.
The worst case of its use was in a tabloidy paper's article about young footballer Freddie Adu, with the headline "He's phenom-enal."
I threw me. I though "They're going for a pun here...but don't they know "phenom" is short for "phenomenon?"...so it's not really a pun, they didn't need to add a hyphen...hang on, do they not...did they not...what the...ARRGGHH!!"

Nyan Cat

Agnostic Mantis wrote: »

I COULD CARE LESS.

So what you're saying is that you actually do care, and it would be possible for you to care less.

Ha! Growing up if I said that I'd say 'i COULDN'T care less' and everyone would 'correct' me and say its COULD id be thinking 'you feckin eejit that's like saying... (what you said)'

I'm guilty of one Americanism that probably annoys people. I waver between saying 'did you check the post?' and 'did you check the mail box?' (outside box)

Think this thread needs an AH style chill pill (or pail.... Of beer) drunk up and relax lads

Whyner

The_Minister wrote: »

But I cannot stand the people who won't filter it for the Irish context.

and long may it continue to anger you...

Your brain let you down. Threads as pathetic and pointless as this are like way more annoying...

Martyn1989

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

Ooo this is a favourite gripe of mine too :cool: Where do I start?

"Can I get a" - usually said in Coffee Shops. You don't say Can I get a when you ask for something anywhere else. You're also not on the cast of Friends.

Vacation instead of holiday

Holiday season instead of Christmas

You do the Math.

Ending a sentence with either "right now" or "already". Your sentence should have been succinct enough to have established a time frame.

Needless use of "so" and "like" in a sentence.

I'm sure I'll think of more :cool:

I hate the "can I get a....."
I also hate "make a right"
and ain't, especially wen said by an Irish person

swimming in a sea

krudler wrote: »

who cares? people use different isms from different places, Irish ones are just as bad, seeing Irish people use "taytos" as a all encompassing term for crisps or chips while abroad is cringey,just change it depending on which country you're in.

i remember that in London once, an Irish guy with me asked for a bag of tayto and a mineral. I had to do the translation

Jimoslimos

AngryBollix wrote: »

mikemac1 wrote: »

If winners of the National Football League are World Champions and the best baseball team in the land win the World Series does this mean Dublin and Kilkenny are World Champions too?

No

Well given that teams from London (UK) and NY (USA) compete in the GAA championships, I think they have more claim to the title than American baseball teams.

Intercontinental champs perhaps?

tbh

so I'm just going to go right ahead and step up to the plate and throw this thread under the bus.

milehip1

Conway635 wrote: »

My (now ex) wife, when we were on the verge of splitting up, having watched to many episodes of Melrose Place and Ally McBeal announced that she was going to ask her lawyer to "attach your future earnings".

C635

kfallon wrote: »

FYP

They dont use the word ''solicitor" in that case, in the US it's Attorney or lawyer

marnie d wrote: »

In Donegal it was never debs, always was the prom.

Yeah about mom / mommy, I hear my nieces say it and it goes through me.

Hearing an Irish person say 'awesome' is horrible.

yeah and it Boxing day not St Stephens up there aswell;)

+1 on the "awesome" worked with a Monaghan lad who had spent 6 weeks in the US and would use it for the most mundane happenings.

''there's 15 people booked in for lunch''

"Awesome" :rolleyes:

Ben D Bus

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

"Can I get a bagel".

That's SO American. Should be "Can I get a hang sangwich".

Dublin_Gunner

I think the OP needs to find closure, period.

bonzodog2

smash wrote: »

This really gets to me. It's gotten to the point now where those "first world problems" meme pictures and now associated with white people like this. :mad:

^
That.

[edit] Like, totally.

Irish Guitarist

Freedom of speech. Most people here seem to think it means you can say or do anything you want. They don't realise that freedom of speech isn't absolute and there are libel and slander laws and laws against hate speech or threatening language. "What do you mean I can't write lies about someone on the internet? And why can't I say that I'd like to kick someones head in? What about my freedom of speech? I know my rights".

FTGFOP

Always thought 'Pet Hate' was an Americanism.

The King of Moo

FTGFOP wrote: »

Always thought 'Pet Hate' was an Americanism.

Yeah, people who say "pet hate" really grind my gears already! :pac:

Could people using Americanisms be any more annoying?

Irish Guitarist

"Did you see the new season of that TV show?".

FTGFOP

I'm totally wrong though. Am I alone in thinking 'pet peeves' sounds more British?

kraggy

kfallon wrote: »

So we have to use amadán from now on based on the above?

That's not the point. You're implying that I'm saying that the term wanker shouldn't be used by us because it's from the English language. I'm not saying that at all.

I'm saying that it should be afforded the same treatment as an Americanism as it is an "Englishism" i.e. it's origin is as a slang word/colloquialism in a different country. Not because it's from the English language in general.

Mink

Had a customer on the phone & I said to him that I'd talk to so and so and give them a "heads up" that he was going to call. The customer then started asking me if I had worked in America and why was I using Americanisms etc. I found it very rude and it really made him out to be a pedantic twat. I don't think it's the worst Americanism to be saying!

My sister CONSTANTLY does that up-high lilt at the end of everything she says - as if asking a question. I can't stand when Americans do it let alone her. She's nearly 40 and has never lived in the states I pointed it out to her once, in a nice way, and left it.

FTGFOP

@Kraggy
I call 'em Britishisms.

Da Shins Kelly

Don't understand all the hate for 'can I get a...'. Perfectly normal-sounding to me.

I've heard a lot of people saying 'douche', and I think South Park has to answer for that one!

Can't say I'm that annoyed by anything mentioned on here so far though.

Ellian

Someone in work asked if I would "do him a solid". Some confusion wherein it transpired he required a favour as opposed to my initial assumption that he wanted me to have a dump on his desk.

pickarooney

The King of Moo wrote: »

"Why are you hating on me?"

"Because you use inappropriate modern American slang that sounds stupid."

There's two things wrong here.

First, like "to love," "to hate" is a state verb so strictly, it can't take an "-ing" form.

Second, why the "on?" What does it add? Does it make the sentence sound better? No.
Does it change the meaning? No.
Don't put it in there then.

How is "I'm hating on Mondays" an improvement on "I hate Mondays?"

It's just slightly longer, which I find strange as most Americanisms are based upon the principle of shortening words and phrases.

"To hate on" someone is not the same as "to hate" someone. In fact, the prepositional verb "hate on", a synonym for verbal assault, can legitimately take a progressive tense.

It still sounds silly in an Irish accent though.

jack presley

The use of the word fail as a noun is a real American thing, eg that's a fail

The King of Moo

pickarooney wrote: »

"To hate on" someone is not the same as "to hate" someone. In fact, the prepositional verb "hate on", a synonym for verbal assault, can legitimately take a progressive tense.

It still sounds silly in an Irish accent though.

Ah, if it's used to mean "to verbally assault" I acknowledge it's different, but I agree, it still sounds strange from an Irish accent.

My problem with it is that an Irish friend of mine is always using it to mean "to hate" in a general sense.

Solair

Language evolves and Americanisms will, undoubtedly, enter other dialects of English because of huge exposure TO American media output.

There's nothing wrong with them but, there's also very little that you can do to prevent language changing. It's a communication tool, not always a cultural badge.

Mensch Maschine

Wasn't 'dating' a real American thing? Now we all use it? Who gives a ****, really? Are you just trying to hold on to Irish pride or something? The world is becoming more and more globalised. We're on the internet all the time and are in more contact with Americans more than ever every day.

Personally, I make an effort to speak well but I don't get my panties in a twist cause someone said, awesome or something 'American.'

The anti-American brigade is cringe-worthy in this country. People seem to think it gives them some sort of highness or oneupmanship over something. Its just the way they talk and if you were a yank and heard that people in other countries are judging you over the use of your words, you'd think it's rather pathetic.

Imagine you hear a bunch of English or Welsh people being snobby because people were using Feck after watching Father Ted in their country. Who would you think is the idiot?

Although, the rich white men, thing is maybe excessive use over here, you get the idea, white people usually hold power and it's not really that crazy to use. It still makes sense.

rich.d.berry

Solair wrote: »

Language evolves and Americanisms will, undoubtedly, enter other dialects of English because of huge exposure TO American media output.

There's nothing wrong with them but, there's also very little that you can do to prevent language changing. It's a communication tool, not always a cultural badge.

In fairness to the OP, this thread has gone off the original, very well defined, topic of unfiltered Americanisms.

A lot of people have ignored the unfiltered bit, and just ranted about Americanisms and Britishisms in general.

I agree that language evolves and that other cultures will impact on ours. It is both a good and bad thing. Finding the proper balance is important and that is what the filter is needed for.

smash

I think when this tread is closed, whoever locks it should sign off with "peace out".

Hazys

Funny how people get pissed off about Americanisms but nobody gets pissed off about "English Geezerisms"...go onto the soccer forum and you'll see nearly ever second word is "mate" or "bint" or worse reffering to an irish fan of Liverpool as a scouser or Man Utd fan as a manc :mad:

Sindri

Leisure pronounced as leeee-sure. :mad:


And the expression of 'dude'. :mad:


'Hell yeah' :mad:


'True that' :mad:


'Awesome' :mad::mad::mad:

**** of back to your enthusiastic masturbating over American pop culture (a culture with the specific function of selling you products ) with your cultural cringe. I'm ****ing sick of people idealising American culture. I know a guy who used to venerate the ****ing place and it's pop culture. Never shut up about America and actually made an effort to speak with American expressions. :mad: So I punched him once. Felt a lot better. It wasn't so much the American idioms that annoyed me but the actual enthusiasm with which he actually made an effort to utilize as many of them as possible in his articulation.

pickarooney

The King of Moo wrote: »

Ah, if it's used to mean "to verbally assault" I acknowledge it's different, but I agree, it still sounds strange from an Irish accent.

My problem with it is that an Irish friend of mine is always using it to mean "to hate" in a general sense.

You should beat up on him and not go visit with him at the hospital.

Seachmall

Sindri wrote: »

Leisure pronounced as leeee-sure. :mad:

I like the sound of "leeee-sure suit", it does something for me that I just can't describe.

vektarman

Americans are shocked if a couple are 'sleeping' with each other, what's the problem, they're only sleeping? Now if they were having sex that's a different matter......

smash

Jesus christ... Awesome is not an American word, or an Americanism.

RichieC

Hey gimme some of that bacon!!!

What the **** is a proper sausage?

Errrr I'm an american!11

c_man

Sindri wrote: »

Leisure pronounced as leeee-sure. :mad:


And the expression of 'dude'. :mad:


'Hell yeah' :mad:


'True that' :mad:


'Awesome' :mad::mad::mad:

**** of back to your enthusiastic masturbating over American pop culture (a culture with the specific function of selling you products ) with your cultural cringe. I'm ****ing sick of people idealising American culture. I know a guy who used to venerate the ****ing place and it's pop culture. Never shut up about America and actually made an effort to speak with American expressions. :mad: So I punched him once. Felt a lot better. It wasn't so much the American idioms that annoyed me but the actual enthusiasm with which he actually made an effort to utilize as many of them as possible in his articulation.

You do know where the usage of smilies/emoticons originate, right?

Mensch Maschine

smash wrote: »

Jesus christ... Awesome is not an American word, or an Americanism.

It's associated and probably used most in the that country.

MickySticks

"Cops" It's the Guards ya fooking tool!

JerryHandbag

Douchebag....whatever happened to just calling someone a gobshyte?!