General Fantasy Football Chat

Nuri Sahin

kennyb3 wrote: »

Vorm is deffo back as per SSN this morning, in case anyone is interested.

Good stuff. I didn't want to make an extra transfer. Still have Lindegaard as my 2nd GK, haven't got rid of him due to not wanting to take a points hit for the time being at least!

carlcon

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm feeling like this forum has picked up a lot since last GW. This morning seems to be bustling already.

Bale out, keeper problems, Dempsey/Aguero/Ba all home team captain choices, Valencia still out... it's gonna be an interesting GW!

carlcon

As I posted that, I almost sent coffee all over my monitor:

The little orange square of doom haunts RVP this morning.

Game on!

kearneybobs

carlcon wrote: »

As I posted that, I almost sent coffee all over my monitor:

The little orange square of doom haunts RVP this morning.

Game on!

I saw that earlier.......:eek::eek:

manual_man

To think one man could make so many people unhappy

Honestly though, I think he'll play. Have we not seen RVP as doubtful before this season and always play?

alchemist33

Wasnt he doubtful pre-international but still played a full half?

carlcon

Nothing wrong with a bit of drama, though.

He's at 75%, which means the injury is almost definitely nothing. I personally would love to see him out for a bit (from an FF point of view only - I want him fit so Arsenal get 4th), because it would really open up the game to completely new teams.

darego

opinions on doubling up on sunderland midfielders? i have both mclean and sess at the minute with sess starting this weekend and mclean first on the bence since bale most likely won't play

i was thinking of getting valencia in for sess to leave me with just mclean but now bales injury is going to force me to get in nani for bale instead

Nuri Sahin

Heads up for those who have Sturridge -

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-24040248-daniel-sturridge-is-up-for-crunch-run-despite-injury.do

Looks like he'll be available for the weekend, or at least making himself available.
Be interesting to see what happens with him amongst others considering Chelsea's fixtures over the next month (7 games in 28 days).

El Horseboxo

Bale should be okay for the weekend according to Harry.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/12/03/02/SOCCER_Tottenham_Bale.html&TEAMHD=soccer&BID=165

FatRat

carlcon wrote: »

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm feeling like this forum has picked up a lot since last GW. This morning seems to be bustling already.

Bale out, keeper problems, Dempsey/Aguero/Ba all home team captain choices, Valencia still out... it's gonna be an interesting GW!

Looks like it is alright. This thread was actually a good idea, it's very similar to the one previously so I'll be posting in it more often. I don't like the business of skipping through different threads.


Vorm and Rooney back and Bale being shipped out by me soon, I'll have no injurys except VP to worry about. But I have him on my bench anyway as I fancy Yakubu to do better. Liverpool away is tough a fixture as you'll get imo. A nice first sub to have too because if one of my midfield or strikers don't play, I have the top points scorer in the game to come in for them. Handy out.


I'm still deciding who to get in for a Bale. There is plenty of value in the <6 million price range, I'm thinking if I do that, save myself 4 odd million and upgrade other players that I'd end up benefiting from it. Hmm..... decision. I could just get Mata but that'd be boring and Chelsea are s**te.

Jax Teller

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2109215/Gareth-Bale-hamstring-injury-dismissed-Harry-Redknapp.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Harry on Bale

'That's absolutely a million miles wrong,' he said
when asked about the reports that Bale was set for a long-term lay-off. 'He hasn't even got a tear in his hamstring. It's just a little bit tight but it should be OK. It shouldn't be a problem.

'We will have to wait and see how he is (for the weekend). Hopefully he should be OK.'

Harry on Vdv ,King & Walker

'Van der Vaart is hopefully going to train today. He feels a lot better,' Redknapp added. 'Ledley is not bad. Hopefully he will come out tomorrow. We will see how he is. Kyle Walker is OK. He should be OK. He got a knock (against Arsenal) but he should be fit.'

carlcon

FatRat wrote: »

Looks like it is alright. This thread was actually a good idea, it's very similar to the one previously so I'll be posting in it more often. I don't like the business of skipping through different threads.

I think we've stumbled across a middle-ground, where those who want one bustling thread can still have one, while those who want to expand can still do so (within reason). Giving us the choice is the key, so fingers crossed the masses like it too.

carlcon

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Bale should be okay for the weekend according to Harry.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/12/03/02/SOCCER_Tottenham_Bale.html&TEAMHD=soccer&BID=165

Jesus. Glad I didn't pull the trigger on any transfers yet. I'll let more news/interviews come in over the space of today before I make any decisions myself.

shangri la

carlcon wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a bit of drama, though.

He's at 75%, which means the injury is almost definitely nothing. I personally would love to see him out for a bit (from an FF point of view only - I want him fit so Arsenal get 4th), because it would really open up the game to completely new teams.

people would just get in whichever they dont have from rooney and aguero.

shangri la

Why are the mods telling us to ask questions when they won't answer them?

roryc

shangri la wrote: »

people would just get in rooney.

FYP

manual_man

rooneys nti was reset to from minus seventy something percent back to zero on fiso. i wish i knew why they do this?! was hopin to get him for .1 less. gah

iroced

manual_man wrote: »

rooneys nti was reset to from minus seventy something percent back to zero on fiso. i wish i knew why they do this?! was hopin to get him for .1 less. gah

Probably he was flagged and his flag disappeared.
Just checked FISO and yeah that's it he was flagged the 22nd of February. I guess his flag came off today so NTI reset to 0 and he should be protected for 8 days now...

kennyb3

Would absolutely love if ageuro was rested at the weekend (don't have him), Just thought i'd throw that out there. Prob not much chance but would love it

El Horseboxo

carlcon wrote: »

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Bale should be okay for the weekend according to Harry.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/12/03/02/SOCCER_Tottenham_Bale.html&TEAMHD=soccer&BID=165

Jesus. Glad I didn't pull the trigger on any transfers yet. I'll let more news/interviews come in over the space of today before I make any decisions myself.

I never trust articles that don't have quotes. So glad Harry spoke on it before I probably would have considered shipping him out before the deadline.

Replacing big name midfielders is a headache.

DazzlerIE

Really worried about this weekend

I'm fielding three Newcastle players

doubtful Bale
Doubtful RVP
Possibility of Aguero being rested
Kelly doubtful

carlcon

So where are we standing on Bale? All day I've been hearing Harry say he's fine. Even if he's not, don't fancy dropping a 0.7m to get rid of him just for one game... because it's likely he'll be worth having back over the majority of the rest of the season.

shadowcomplex

Anyone here have the big 3 strikeforce of Rooney, Aguero and Vpersie like I do?

carlcon

DazzlerIE wrote: »

Really worried about this weekend

I'm fielding three Newcastle players

doubtful Bale
Doubtful RVP
Possibility of Aguero being rested
Kelly doubtful

It's gonna be one of those weeks where you have literally no idea what to expect. Who knows what Sunderland will show up to the Newcastle game. Could be a 3-0 either way, or a 0-0.

manual_man

carlcon wrote: »

So where are we standing on Bale? All day I've been hearing Harry say he's fine. Even if he's not, don't fancy dropping a 0.7m to get rid of him just for one game... because it's likely he'll be worth having back over the majority of the rest of the season.

I'm getting rid. Probly tomorrow. Just don't see him playing as attacking a role anymore, Saha probly has something to do with that

DazzlerIE

carlcon wrote: »

It's gonna be one of those weeks where you have literally no idea what to expect. Who knows what Sunderland will show up to the Newcastle game. Could be a 3-0 either way, or a 0-0.

I know!

My backup keeper is Mignolet, and have McClean on the bench, so I need to make a call on this game, and if I were to gamble it would be on Newcastle, so may aswell play my Newcastle players!

shadowcomplex

manual_man wrote: »

I'm getting rid. Probly tomorrow. Just don't see him playing as attacking a role anymore, Saha probly has something to do with that

Getting Valencia back in could be a good shout with Uniteds easy run ahead

manual_man

shadowcomplex wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

I'm getting rid. Probly tomorrow. Just don't see him playing as attacking a role anymore, Saha probly has something to do with that

Getting Valencia back in could be a good shout with Uniteds easy run ahead

Yup. That's my planned replacement. Hopefully he won't fall foul of rotation much

El Horseboxo

Reckon I'll keep Bale. Even if he doesn't make this weekend he should be fine for the next one going by official club comments. He's a player that if you get rid of you'll be weakening your team elsewhere to get him back in. 0.7 is a big hit to take.

I've held onto Valencia. Lost .2 on him but who I was considering getting in for him scored 1 point last weekend. So wouldn't have been worth the 4 point hit. Have one free transfer now. Debating getting rid of him tonight but don't know who to bring in. Have Dempsey, Silva and McClean. 0.6 in the bank.

shadowcomplex

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Reckon I'll keep Bale. Even if he doesn't make this weekend he should be fine for the next one going by official club comments. He's a player that if you get rid of you'll be weakening your team elsewhere to get him back in. 0.7 is a big hit to take.

I've held onto Valencia. Lost .2 on him but who I was considering getting in for him scored 1 point last weekend. So wouldn't have been worth the 4 point hit. Have one free transfer now. Debating getting rid of him tonight but don't know who to bring in. Have Dempsey, Silva and McClean. 0.6 in the bank.

Kepp him, he should be back for westbrom at home

DazzlerIE

Aguero, Silva and Kompany all going up in price tonight

Makes Rooney even more affordable for people making the switch next week

carlcon

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Reckon I'll keep Bale. Even if he doesn't make this weekend he should be fine for the next one going by official club comments. He's a player that if you get rid of you'll be weakening your team elsewhere to get him back in. 0.7 is a big hit to take.

I've held onto Valencia. Lost .2 on him but who I was considering getting in for him scored 1 point last weekend. So wouldn't have been worth the 4 point hit. Have one free transfer now. Debating getting rid of him tonight but don't know who to bring in. Have Dempsey, Silva and McClean. 0.6 in the bank.

Fully agree with you on Bale, but I think the Valencia ship has sailed. He's the 3rd choice player out of him, Nani, and Young. Young's injury put him in the starting 11, and now his own injury at the same time Young is back fit is most likely resulting in them switching again. You better hope Young has a stinker against Spurs on Sunday, because a fit Nani is the 2nd player on the team sheet after Rooney.

How Soon Is Now

What does everyone think of Nani and McClean to replace Sessegnon and Valencia ???

If i bring in Nani for Valencia im 1.9 mil down so have to drop one my players and i aint droping bale or silva in midfield. Either i do that or i drop Ba and bring in the yak......

Any ideas??

El Horseboxo

carlcon wrote: »

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Reckon I'll keep Bale. Even if he doesn't make this weekend he should be fine for the next one going by official club comments. He's a player that if you get rid of you'll be weakening your team elsewhere to get him back in. 0.7 is a big hit to take.

I've held onto Valencia. Lost .2 on him but who I was considering getting in for him scored 1 point last weekend. So wouldn't have been worth the 4 point hit. Have one free transfer now. Debating getting rid of him tonight but don't know who to bring in. Have Dempsey, Silva and McClean. 0.6 in the bank.

Fully agree with you on Bale, but I think the Valencia ship has sailed. He's the 3rd choice player out of him, Nani, and Young. Young's injury put him in the starting 11, and now his own injury at the same time Young is back fit is most likely resulting in them switching again. You better hope Young has a stinker against Spurs on Sunday, because a fit Nani is the 2nd player on the team sheet after Rooney.

Nani is a player that I want to bring in. Him and Rooney to replace Agüero. I'd need to make 3 subs for that to happen. Don't want to take an 8 point hit this week. I can live with the 4 point hit next week. So I think I'll leave my team as it is for now. Not expecting much point wise as things stand with the amount of maybe's I have. Just gonna hope for the best.

thegreengoblin

carlcon wrote: »

Fully agree with you on Bale, but I think the Valencia ship has sailed. He's the 3rd choice player out of him, Nani, and Young. Young's injury put him in the starting 11, and now his own injury at the same time Young is back fit is most likely resulting in them switching again. You better hope Young has a stinker against Spurs on Sunday, because a fit Nani is the 2nd player on the team sheet after Rooney.

You really think that? I would be amazed if Valencia didn't go straight back into the team once he's fit, regardless of how well Young plays in the meantime. Valencia was playing brilliantly in the weeks before his injury and just because he gets injured doesn't mean he can be written off. I'm holding onto him anyway.

shadowcomplex

carlcon wrote: »

Fully agree with you on Bale, but I think the Valencia ship has sailed. He's the 3rd choice player out of him, Nani, and Young. Young's injury put him in the starting 11, and now his own injury at the same time Young is back fit is most likely resulting in them switching again. You better hope Young has a stinker against Spurs on Sunday, because a fit Nani is the 2nd player on the team sheet after Rooney.

Thats simply just not true, Valencia is Uniteds first choice rightsided winger, Ferguson trusts him more than nani and he is overall much more consistent, Rooney also scores much more when Valencia is in the team, when Valencia is fully fit it will be nani and young fighting over the left side

carlcon

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Thats simply just not true, Valencia is Uniteds first choice rightsided winger, Ferguson trusts him more than nani and he is overall much more consistent, Rooney also scores much more when Valencia is in the team, when Valencia is fully fit it will be nani and young fighting over the left side

What's that based on? Instead of just saying "you're wrong", I'll prove it. I've looked through a bunch of PL games between August-December when all 3 were fit to play, and only found 4.

All 4 had both Nani and Young ahead of Valencia.

3-1 against Chelsea
1-6 against City
1-1 against Liverpool (Nani and Valenica started on the bench, then Nani came on for Young. Valencia stayed benched).
1-1 against Newcastle

I came across a lot more than 4 games where Nani & Young played together too. I just skipped over the ones that Valenica wasn't named on the bench, in case he was injured (although I suspect it wasn't always due to injury)

Ever since Young was bought in the summer, Valencia has been 3rd choice winger. The games are there to be seen.

*edit* further research outside of the PL shows that Valencia was fit fora lot of those games when he wasn't on the bench, but was just played in the League Cup/Champions League instead, where Fergie played weakened teams. You don't play your #1 right winger in the league cup, then not even bench him in the big games.

manual_man

carlcon wrote: »

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Thats simply just not true, Valencia is Uniteds first choice rightsided winger, Ferguson trusts him more than nani and he is overall much more consistent, Rooney also scores much more when Valencia is in the team, when Valencia is fully fit it will be nani and young fighting over the left side

What's that based on? Instead of just saying "you're wrong", I'll prove it. I've looked through a bunch of PL games between August-December when all 3 were fit to play, and only found 4.

All 4 had both Nani and Young ahead of Valencia.

3-1 against Chelsea
1-6 against City
1-1 against Liverpool (Nani and Valenica started on the bench, then Nani came on for Young. Valencia stayed benched).
1-1 against Newcastle

Ever since Young was bought in the summer, Valencia has been 3rd choice winger. The games are there to be seen.

That doesnt factor in Valencia being brilliant when he got his chance... He's earned his right to stay in the starting 11 imo. Only Fergie knows, but i'm with the lads on this one, i think Valencia will keep his place on the right

carlcon

manual_man wrote: »

That doesnt factor in Valencia being brilliant when he got his chance... He's earned his right to stay in the starting 11 imo. Only Fergie knows, but i'm with the lads on this one, i think Valencia will keep his place on the right

Valencia is almost always brilliant when he gets the chance. I'm not saying he's a bad player. I love the guy, and would play him every single game. But Young is ahead of him in Fergie's books. Ferguson bought Young for a reason, and Nani is United's 3rd biggest player after Rooney and Vidic.

Anything can happen, and sure, maybe Valencia will play every game once he's fit again. But all we have is history, and history says he's 3rd choice.

manual_man

carlcon wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

That doesnt factor in Valencia being brilliant when he got his chance... He's earned his right to stay in the starting 11 imo. Only Fergie knows, but i'm with the lads on this one, i think Valencia will keep his place on the right

Valencia is almost always brilliant when he gets the chance. I'm not saying he's a bad player. I love the guy, and would play him every single game. But Young is ahead of him in Fergie's books. Ferguson bought Young for a reason, and Nani is United's 3rd biggest player after Rooney and Vidic.

Anything can happen, and sure, maybe Valencia will play every game once he's fit again. But all we have is history, and history says he's 3rd choice.

Valencia is a different player this year. Much improved. You cant read too much into past stats, form is, and always will be, the overriding factor.

Blatter

carlcon wrote: »

Valencia is almost always brilliant when he gets the chance. I'm not saying he's a bad player. I love the guy, and would play him every single game. But Young is ahead of him in Fergie's books. Ferguson bought Young for a reason, and Nani is United's 3rd biggest player after Rooney and Vidic.

Anything can happen, and sure, maybe Valencia will play every game once he's fit again. But all we have is history, and history says he's 3rd choice.

He was injured at the start of the season, and then when he got his chance he was either utilised at RB or he was in terrible form on the wing. He's been better than Young this season by a country mile and I'm sure Fergie sees that too.

It would take some serious form from Young and/or for Valencia's form to dip again when he returns for Valencia not to be a first choice winger for the rest of the season.

El Horseboxo

I don't know who is or who isn't 2nd or 3rd choice but i'd play Valencia over Young. Don't rate Young too much. Good thing about getting Nani in to replace Valencia is how easy it is to go back to Valencia if he does retain his place and is playing well. You also end up with a bit of cash to invest elsewhere.

shadowcomplex

carlcon wrote: »

What's that based on? Instead of just saying "you're wrong", I'll prove it. I've looked through a bunch of PL games between August-December when all 3 were fit to play, and only found 4.

All 4 had both Nani and Young ahead of Valencia.

3-1 against Chelsea
1-6 against City
1-1 against Liverpool (Nani and Valenica started on the bench, then Nani came on for Young. Valencia stayed benched).
1-1 against Newcastle

I came across a lot more than 4 games where Nani & Young played together too. I just skipped over the ones that Valenica wasn't named on the bench, in case he was injured (although I suspect it wasn't always due to injury)

Ever since Young was bought in the summer, Valencia has been 3rd choice winger. The games are there to be seen.

*edit* further research outside of the PL shows that Valencia was fit fora lot of those games when he wasn't on the bench, but was just played in the League Cup/Champions League instead, where Fergie played weakened teams. You don't play your #1 right winger in the league cup, then not even bench him in the big games.

Who started the champions league final last may?

You have to take into account Valencia played in the copa america last season which resulted in an extended rest period so thats why he started with Nani and Young, it was hard for valencia to get back into the team after that because United had there best start in years and were playing unreal football so much so that fergie couldnt change that,plus if im not mistaken valencia had one or two niggling injuries at the start of the season aswell, remember last season when valencia came back from injury he went straight back into the team for uniteds run in and stayed there

thegreengoblin

carlcon wrote: »

What's that based on? Instead of just saying "you're wrong", I'll prove it. I've looked through a bunch of PL games between August-December when all 3 were fit to play, and only found 4.

All 4 had both Nani and Young ahead of Valencia.

3-1 against Chelsea
1-6 against City
1-1 against Liverpool (Nani and Valenica started on the bench, then Nani came on for Young. Valencia stayed benched).
1-1 against Newcastle

I came across a lot more than 4 games where Nani & Young played together too. I just skipped over the ones that Valenica wasn't named on the bench, in case he was injured (although I suspect it wasn't always due to injury)

Ever since Young was bought in the summer, Valencia has been 3rd choice winger. The games are there to be seen.

*edit* further research outside of the PL shows that Valencia was fit fora lot of those games when he wasn't on the bench, but was just played in the League Cup/Champions League instead, where Fergie played weakened teams. You don't play your #1 right winger in the league cup, then not even bench him in the big games.

You're missing a really key point here. Valencia only returned from a really serious (potentially career-ending) injury last March. He then got injured at the Copa America and only made his first PL start in September. It would have taken him until December to really get back to the player he was and once that happened he became a regular. I know Young has been injured also but I can't see Valencia losing his place.

carlcon

If you lot played this game with your heads instead of your hearts, you'd all be doing a helluva lot better this season. :pac:

S.M.B.

Regardless of who's first/second/third choice, the worrying thing is that when all 3 are fit they are likely to eat into each others points.

It might get to a stage where it may be best to have no united winger, even with their great run of fixtures.

I will hold onto Valencia for now but as soon as I see a few 29/45 minute run outs I think it may be time to look elsewhere.

shadowcomplex

carlcon wrote: »

If you lot played this game with your heads instead of your hearts, you'd all be doing a helluva lot better this season.

How many points do you have

DazzlerIE

S.M.B. wrote: »

Regardless of who's first/second/third choice, the worrying thing is that when all 3 are fit they are likely to eat into each others points.

It might get to a stage where it may be best to have no united winger, even with their great run of fixtures.

I will hold onto Valencia for now but as soon as I see a few 29/45 minute run outs I think it may be time to look elsewhere.

This is the best point made in this entire argument

Imagine fretting every week that Fergie will rotate his wingers (and he will)

I'll be avoiding them unless one of them gets injured, meaning rotation risk drops

United defence and Rooney is all the coverage you'll need imo

carlcon

shadowcomplex wrote: »

How many points do you have

1,576