Gaa

The King of Moo

Originally posted by Jimmy macnulty
Greatest amateur sports organisation in the world.

Thank god it doesn't normally attract the scumbag fans you see at soccer games. Can go to any ground in Ireland without intimidation (unless you look for it!)

The GAA have the best stadium in Ireland and that's a credit to an amateur organisation.

Or you're playing :pac:.

Also, the GAA didn't pay for Croke Park all by themselves!

MickySticks wrote: »

Gaelic Football: The best game there was, is and ever will be.

I get the impression there is a lot of nancy boys (you know, the computer nerd, music mad type that wear tight jeans or chinos) on here who were perhaps never good at GF or any sport for that matter and hold a begrudging hate for it.

Although I've never played hurling, I've watched it loads of times and its fascinating to watch.

I was never good at girlfriend .

Also, way to generalise. I like lots of sports and I think Gaelic football is terrible and boring. I've come to that opinion after watching lots of it. I also like music (who doesn't? I think one might find an odd G.A.A player at a trad session, for one of many examples) and I'm a nerd.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

fryup wrote: »

contradiction

The sport, not the organisation.

elefant

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

The sport, not the organisation.

Point he's making is the GAA is the Gaelic Athletic Association, it's not a sport.

fryup

MickySticks wrote: »

Gaelic Football: The best game there was, is and ever will be.

:rolleyes: its a load of muck, played by bog brained backward boggers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTog_cbfH-g

castletownman

Anyone who thinks there's no skill involved in playing gaelic football, and think rugby is a far more skill orientated game are truly deluded. They don't mind when those "skill-less" gaelic footballers make it big at rugby though (Shane Horgan, Rob Kearney, Sean O'Brien, Tomas O'Leary etc.)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

elefant wrote: »

Point he's making is the GAA is the Gaelic Athletic Association, it's not a sport.

... as is the point I made...? I think you'll find most people referring to it as GAA (Don't start me on this "gah" crap) rather than football.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I've always had great interest, growing up in North Tipp Hurling especially is massive and most schoolchildren play from an early age.

theteal

Ah lads and ladies, I can't abide posts that start off with "I've no interest/I've never played" and then end with "there's no skill yada yada". It's like when you hear people who are muck at/never played any decent level soccer saying the LOI is crap. There's tremendous skill in all facets of the game.

Can you run at full pelt while soloing the ball, let alone do it with both feet? I haven't even mentioned being tackled while doing it.
Can you jump and catch a high ball while contesting against others trying to catch/punch it?
Can you shoot/pass the ball accurately with the inside/outside/laces of your boot while kicking from the hands?

There's 3 basic examples of football skills that lads playing for years still have trouble being proficient at let alone mastering. I'm not even going to go into tactics, positioning etc.

To say that there's no skill in football is utterly absurd. Show me a sport on the planet that does not involve skill. I know people have issues with the GAA and rightly so but please don't use that to insult the game that I and many others love to play.

elefant

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

... as is the point I made...? I think you'll find most people referring to it as GAA (Don't start me on this "gah" crap) rather than football.

I don't think you would find most people referring to Gaelic Football as GAA, but whatever, it's just semantics.

And I also hate 'this gah crap'!

philstar

wouldn't go to a GAA match if it was across the road from me hate it

flanders1979

stovelid wrote: »

I'm not a troglodyte in hot pants so the appeal is limited.

The Jones Road BigotDome is a nice stadium though.

I played hurling until recently and I wouldn't consider myself or the majority of my teamates bigots. Decent people.
What sports are you into? If you are capable.

Seachmall

castletownman wrote: »

They don't mind when those "skill-less" gaelic footballers make it big at rugby though (Shane Horgan, Rob Kearney, Sean O'Brien, Tomas O'Leary etc.)

How is that relevant?

Badgermonkey

Jimmy Macnulty wrote: »

Thank god it doesn't normally attract the scumbag fans you see at soccer games. Can go to any ground in Ireland without intimidation (unless you look for it!)

The GAA has yet to really address a long-standing and pretty disgraceful disciplinary problem with intimidation of referees, by crowd and players alike, particularly at club level.

Add to this numerous instances of mass brawls with players, coaching staff and fans and what do the GAA do? Convene another committee, issue another fine.

Worst of all, even the fights are sh1t.

Seachmall

Badgermonkey wrote: »

The GAA has yet to really address a long-standing and pretty disgraceful disciplinary problem with intimidation of referees, by crowd and players alike, particularly at club level.

Add to this numerous instances of mass brawls with players, coaching staff and fans and what do the GAA do? Convene another committee, issue another fine.

Jaysus, those Derrytresk lads were in like a shot.

Should've put the fuckers playing forward.

castletownman

Seachmall wrote: »

How is that relevant?

Course it's relevant.

Lad plays GAA: "Ah sure anyone can play that. He's not a great sportsman"

Lad plays rugby: "WOW goys that man is amazing"

Maybe I'm being biased but I've been involved in GAA in my locality for virtually my whole life. I've seen lads who would predominately play GAA take up rugby in the winter months just to keep fit. The majority of these lads adjust seamlessly to the game, with a few of them stars for the local rugby team's first team. I've also seen a heap of rugby lads play GAA in their off-season and they look awkward and cumbersome, and find it hard to adjust to the finer aspects of the game (the solo in particular). Most of them give up early on.

So yeah, basically my point is there's far more skill in GAA than rugby.

flanders1979

fryup wrote: »

:rolleyes: its a load of muck, played by bog brained backward boggers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTog_cbfH-g

Someone was useless and couldn't make the under 12s third team.

The King of Moo

*takes opportunity to have a pop at Paul Galvin, as he deserves it and should be roundly mocked at all possible occasions*

The head on Paul Galvin!

MickySticks

The King of Moo wrote: »

*takes opportunity to have a pop at Paul Galvin, as he deserves it and should be roundly mocked at all possible occasions*

The head on Paul Galvin!

Yes, because Paul Galvin is a typical GAA player stereotype. :rolleyes:

thegen

Well as someone who played Gaelic Football and Soccer growing up I have to say GAA wins out. Soccer or Wendyball as it is referred to by most people from sporting organisations that play contact sports has just lost its appeal. At grass roots level soccer in Ireland has parents on the line abusing kids from their own team and the opposition where as the GAA have put in place at underage level the Give Respect Get Respect initiative. I am involved with both sports as my kids play them both so don't have an axe to grind with either.

Seachmall

castletownman wrote: »

Course it's relevant.

Lad plays GAA: "Ah sure anyone can play that. He's not a great sportsman"

Lad plays rugby: "WOW goys that man is amazing".

The point made was that GAA is not a skillful game. Not that GAA players can't be skillful in other games.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

theteal wrote: »

Ah lads and ladies, I can't abide posts that start off with "I've no interest/I've never played" and then end with "there's no skill yada yada". It's like when you hear people who are muck at/never played any decent level soccer saying the LOI is crap. There's tremendous skill in all facets of the game.

Can you run at full pelt while soloing the ball, let alone do it with both feet? I haven't even mentioned being tackled while doing it.
Can you jump and catch a high ball while contesting against others trying to catch/punch it?
Can you shoot/pass the ball accurately with the inside/outside/laces of your boot while kicking from the hands?

There's 3 basic examples of football skills that lads playing for years still have trouble being proficient at let alone mastering. I'm not even going to go into tactics, positioning etc.

To say that there's no skill in football is utterly absurd. Show me a sport on the planet that does not involve skill. I know people have issues with the GAA and rightly so but please don't use that to insult the game that I and many others love to play.

This idea what you have to play a game on a serious level to undrstand it is bollox. Jose Mourinho and Alex Ferguson never played top flight soccerl, yet they're conisdered to be the two best tactical minds in the sport. Andre Villas-Boas never played professionally at all!

I played quiet a youth and could so all the thigns you mentioned (two of them not being all that difficult). I can kick a football (well could ), run and do can do both at the same time. Where's my diploma? If anything, the game demanded far more accuracy than anything when kicking.

Tactically, they use the same formations in very game and, as said, seem to kick for accuracy as being the main idea.

elefant wrote: »

I don't think you would find most people referring to Gaelic Football as GAA, but whatever, it's just semantics.

And I also hate 'this gah crap'!

Agreed.

The King of Moo

MickySticks wrote: »

Yes, because Paul Galvin is a typical GAA player stereotype. :rolleyes:

He's not at all, I just really, really hate him, and take every opportunity I can to say something bad about him.

He looks like a buffoon!

MickySticks

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Andre Villas-Boas never played professionally at all!

How that working out for him?

CucaFace

At the end of the day I just feel sorry for those who really don't know what they are missing out when it comes to GAA sports and what it actually does for a community.

Because you are actually missing out on something really good,fun and worthwhile in some many ways.

fryup

flanders1979 wrote: »

Someone was useless and couldn't make the under 12s third team.

couldn't make the under 12s ffs:rolleyes:

don't make me laugh, never ever had any intention of playing that muck

i always prefered a sport with tactics and skill > rugby and football (soccer to culchies)

Seachmall

CucaFace wrote: »

At the end of the day I just feel sorry for those who really don't know what they are missing out when it comes to GAA sports and what it actually does for a community.

Because you are actually missing out on something really good,fun and worthwhile in some many ways.

I could say the same about any sport, drug or homoerotic behaviour.

Badgermonkey

castletownman wrote: »

they look awkward and cumbersome,

So do a lot of inter-county footballers though.

Of course there's skill involved in Football, but Jesus it's become an awful ugly shove-fest.

MickySticks

fryup wrote: »

couldn't make the under 12s ffs:rolleyes:

don't make me laugh, never ever had any intention of playing that muck

i always prefered a sport with tactics and skill > rugby and football (soccer to culchies)

WTF you on about, can you name these so called tactics and skills that are used in Soccer and Rugby but not GAA games?

fryup

CucaFace wrote: »

At the end of the day I just feel sorry for those who really don't know what they are missing out when it comes to GAA sports and what it actually does for a community.

but the GAA doesn't have a monopoly on community relations...playing football (soccer to culchies) and rugby and other sports benefits the local community as well

El Guapo!

I have absolutely no interest in GAA. I went out on All Ireland Final day last year and it was good craic and a great atmosphere but other than that I'd have no interest all year round.

The King of Moo

I think there's lots of unnecessary defensiveness going on here.

Just because someone doesn't like a particular sport that you do, it doesn't mean that they're wrong, simply don't know anything about sport (how can you avoid seeing G.A.A in Ireland, especially during the summer?) or are jealous because they're not good at it.

I like hurling, and I don't like Gaelic football. There's no bias behind these opinions: I've come to them after watching both sports, and playing a little.

But I've nothing against the sport of Gaelic football, or those who play and enjoy it.
Except Paul Galvin. He seems like a bit of a thug.

CucaFace

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

This idea what you have to play a game on a serious level to undrstand it is bollox. Jose Mourinho and Alex Ferguson never played top flight soccerl, yet they're conisdered to be the two best tactical minds in the sport. Andre Villas-Boas never played professionally at all!

I played quiet a youth and could so all the thigns you mentioned (two of them not being all that difficult). I can kick a football (well could ), run and do can do both at the same time. Where's my diploma? If anything, the game demanded far more accuracy than anything when kicking.

Tactically, they use the same formations in very game and, as said, seem to kick for accuracy as being the main idea.





Agreed.

Shows just how clueless about the sport you really are.

If by same formation you mean that they start the game with the players standing in the same postion , then yes.

Normally about 5 secs after the throw in ten the different tactical formations take shape. The exact same way it does in fotball (Soccer).

If anything the tactical elelment in Gaelic football has become too much an influence which has lead to a deterioion in the sport.

Its just as tactal a sport as Football. You can play short passing game/ long passing game, a defsenve game or an attacking game. Very similar to football.

Ive played both all my life and i always laugh at those who only played football who think it is a far more advanced sport.

Both rquire different skills and tactics.

I can't comment on Rugby as i have never played nor have any interest in.

CucaFace

fryup wrote: »

couldn't make the under 12s ffs:rolleyes:

don't make me laugh, never ever had any intention of playing that muck

i always prefered a sport with tactics and skill > rugby and football (soccer to culchies)

What skill please tell is in Rugby that isn't in Gaelic football?

Is it the skill of everyone jumping in a big pile and fingering each other up the ass?

My name is URL

thegen wrote: »

Well as someone who played Gaelic Football and Soccer growing up I have to say GAA wins out. Soccer or Wendyball as it is referred to by most people from sporting organisations that play contact sports has just lost its appeal. At grass roots level soccer in Ireland has parents on the line abusing kids from their own team and the opposition where as the GAA have put in place at underage level the Give Respect Get Respect initiative. I am involved with both sports as my kids play them both so don't have an axe to grind with either.

That's such bull. Initiatives at underage level are useless when what they aim to eradicate is continuously perpetuated at non-underage levels. You don't hear about too many soccer refs being physically assaulted after matches by scores of rabid fans or players. I'm not saying that soccer much better than GAA in terms of that stuff, but you make it seem as if soccer is infinitely worse.

CucaFace

fryup wrote: »

but the GAA doesn't have a monopoly on community relations...playing football (soccer to culchies) and rugby and other sports benefits the local community as well

I never said it had a monopoly on anything, i was just defending it againest those who seem to have a really ignorant and flalse view on the GAA.

thegen

My name is URL wrote: »

That's such bull. Initiatives at underage level are useless when what they aim to eradicate is continuously perpetuated at non-underage levels. You don't hear about too many soccer refs being physically assaulted after matches by scores of rabid fans or players. I'm not saying that soccer much better than GAA in terms of that stuff, but you make it seem as if soccer is infinitely worse.

I have stated it is in my experience at underage level. I think you are missing the point. If you don't start with underage it will never work.

The age group I am talking about is u10. And yes Soccer is far and away worse for verbal abuse of players at that level.

Badgermonkey

CucaFace wrote: »

Is it the skill of everyone jumping in a big pile and fingering each other up the ass?

In the interests of those who suffer in silence, kindly refrain from placing 'big pile' and 'finger up the ass' in the same sentence.

Paparazzo

Jimmy Macnulty wrote: »

Greatest amateur sports organisation in the world.

Thank god it doesn't normally attract the scumbag fans you see at soccer games. Can go to any ground in Ireland without intimidation (unless you look for it!)

The GAA have the best stadium in Ireland and that's a credit to an amateur organisation.

Yes, you're right, there's never trouble at gaa games. Crowds never attack the ref, and mass brawls are unheard of

ceegee

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

theteal wrote: »

Ah lads and ladies, I can't abide posts that start off with "I've no interest/I've never played" and then end with "there's no skill yada yada". It's like when you hear people who are muck at/never played any decent level soccer saying the LOI is crap. There's tremendous skill in all facets of the game.

Can you run at full pelt while soloing the ball, let alone do it with both feet? I haven't even mentioned being tackled while doing it.
Can you jump and catch a high ball while contesting against others trying to catch/punch it?
Can you shoot/pass the ball accurately with the inside/outside/laces of your boot while kicking from the hands?

There's 3 basic examples of football skills that lads playing for years still have trouble being proficient at let alone mastering. I'm not even going to go into tactics, positioning etc.

To say that there's no skill in football is utterly absurd. Show me a sport on the planet that does not involve skill. I know people have issues with the GAA and rightly so but please don't use that to insult the game that I and many others love to play.

This idea what you have to play a game on a serious level to undrstand it is bollox. Jose Mourinho and Alex Ferguson never played top flight soccerl, yet they're conisdered to be the two best tactical minds in the sport. Andre Villas-Boas never played professionally at all!

I played quiet a youth and could so all the thigns you mentioned (two of them not being all that difficult). I can kick a football (well could ), run and do can do both at the same time. Where's my diploma? If anything, the game demanded far more accuracy than anything when kicking.

Tactically, they use the same formations in very game and, as said, seem to kick for accuracy as being the main idea.

elefant wrote: »

I don't think you would find most people referring to Gaelic Football as GAA, but whatever, it's just semantics.

And I also hate 'this gah crap'!

Agreed.

Ferguson never played top flight football? Must have been some other Alex Ferguson that broke the Scottish transfer record so...

fryup

MickySticks wrote: »

WTF you on about, can you name these so called tactics and skills that are used in Soccer and Rugby but not GAA games?

Football (soccer to culchies) - controlling the ball with your feet not your hands, controlling the ball on your chest, heading the ball, timing your runs so as not to go offside, scoring a freekick over a wall of players, etc

Rugby - Kicking an oval ball a long distance so that it touches the ground before it goes out, timing your pass to your inside runner, the offload pass from a tackle, the lineout > directing an arrow straight pass between two lines of players, scrumaging, the drop kick etc

Jacknory

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Love hurling, playing and watching, but don't have as much time for Gaelic.

I'm from Wicklow so it doesn't really matter, my county rarely achieve anything.

The current leinster intermediate champions are from Wicklow......Eire Og Greystones.

tonycascarino

Hurling all the way

Jimmy Macnulty

HA HA some amount of wind up merchants on here. There is as much skill in GAA as there is soccer or Rugby.


Look at 0.30 onwards..No skill involved??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFs7vcde4ec

Richie Hogans goal v Tipp..Sure Fryup you could easily do that!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyvKbdOTUxI

Stop trying to wind people up good lad

Duckworth_Luas

fryup wrote: »

the GAA the sport & leisure wing of Sinn Fein

:rolleyes: Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read on AH in quite a while!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

MickySticks wrote: »

How that working out for him?

Coaching a team to a national championship and european hounours at the age of 32 and then going on to manage one of England's top five premiership teams at the age of 33?

CucaFace wrote: »

Shows just how clueless about the sport you really are.

If by same formation you mean that they start the game with the players standing in the same postion , then yes.

Normally about 5 secs after the throw in ten the different tactical formations take shape. The exact same way it does in fotball (Soccer).

If anything the tactical elelment in Gaelic football has become too much an influence which has lead to a deterioion in the sport.

I stopped reading at this point.

Ferguson never played top flight football? Must have been some other Alex Ferguson that broke the Scottish transfer record so...

I take your point, but my point wast that he has been infintiely more successful as a coach/manager than as a player.

2ndcoming

While I have great respect for the skills and fitness required to play Gaelic football or hurling, I don't think it's fair to say that it brings communities together.

It is incredibly insular and cliquey at club level. GAA families predominate where the Dads hang around the club the whole time trying to increase their kid's chances of making the team, and the mothers hang around the whole time gossiping with each other over rumours they've heard about other people's children ("did you hear her young lad's gone down a bad road?"), or other people's husbands ("I heard he lost the lot/I heard he's riding yer wan from the post office") all while making a few sangitches for the lads.

For the massive fundraising power it has, which really has no equal in Ireland, the vast amount (match gates, etc.) goes direct to HQ (if not into the pocket of the cute hoor working the gate first). It rarely in my experience does anything to support non-GAA related local issues, or indeed non-GAA related local sports or amenities.

Sure they'll have a few charity do's a year and pat themselves on the back, but between widespread illegal payments to managers at just about all levels and codes and the amount that goes straight to the big pot at head office, there's a lot more good things that could be done locally with those funds.

That's not to say it does no good, the good it does will probably make a load of people try and tear this post apart, but for me it could certainly do a lot more, and the insular nature of it is it's own worst enemy in the long run.

CucaFace

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Coaching a team to a national championship and european hounours at the age of 32 and then going on to manage one of England's top five premiership teams at the age of 33?




I stopped reading at this point.



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Why?

So instead of asking someone who actually has played the game and follows it to explain how tactics are a big part of the game today, you would prefer to close your eyes and continue to keep your backward, narrow minded and ignorant view of another sport you have clearly have no clue about.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

CucaFace wrote: »

Why?

So instead of asking someone who actually has played the game and follows it to explain how tactics are a big part of the game today, you would prefer to close your eyes and continue to keep your backward, narrow minded and ignorant view of another sport you have clearly have no clue about.

I've played it too, you're not unique in this situation. Also, you said that "the tactical elelment in Gaelic football has become too much an influence" which is implying that you think the game should be played without tactics, which to me is boollox. It also contrdicts what you say above.

northernpower

I'm on the phone and dunno if anyone has been taken up on some if the earlier statements regarding lack of skill or not but waved to add my opinion.

I've done a lot of coaching under age in multi sport disciplines, I was involved in a programme that aimed to develop over all athletic ability in children from a young age regardless of which sport they ultimately saw themselves devoting their time to when older. Some sports were considered to have great crossover skills e.g. hand eye coordination, agility, awareness of space, guess what? Gaelic football and hurling are among the sports with the highest potential cross over. This can be seen in the number of current professionals representing ireland in rugby and soccer that have played gaelic games from a young age.

By thr way, the programme (co_dex kids) if you wasn't to check it out was devoted by a welshman who hadn't seen gaelic games before he moved to dublin.

And case you're wondering why I'm writing on my phone (as if you care) I'm just heading up to a high school in cardiff to take gaelic football training for 30 or so lads after school, and they fuppin love it so they do

latenia

Jimmy Macnulty wrote: »

HA HA some amount of wind up merchants on here. There is as much skill in GAA as there is soccer or Rugby.


Look at 0.30 onwards..No skill involved??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFs7vcde4ec

I reckon most men between the ages of 15 and 35 could do that easily enough-kicking a ball 40 yards out of their hands. How many GAA players could do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiYYSradplU