Pet Hates - Irishisms

Kayly

"I may do that now" meaning I must.....never understood that one.
(But I may admit to using it..)
As someone else said, though, its nice to have our own quirks!

Irish Guitarist

I don't know if this is particular to Carlow or if it happens in other counties, but people here seem to think that "go home with yer big head on ye" is about the worst insult they could shout at someone.

Another one I hate is morons a third of my age calling me 'lad'. Twelve or thirteen year olds often approach me saying "eh lad have you got a fag on you?". Shouldn't you be at home watching Spongebob Squarepants or something?

TanG411

"I'll be there in 2 secs".

Ten minutes later. . .

"I'll be there in 2 secs".

CK75

And, just to keep the pot boiling - a local one from Enniscorthy - Arrrh or should that be Ahhhh - shouted loudly and seems to mean pardon or what did you say. [/QUOTE]

ahhh! goway will ya! jaysis! shure I dont know at all at all....

Gotta love them scalders though!:pac:

BraziliaNZ

My Auntie's friend was talking to me at a funeral a couple of weeks ago about one of my efeminate cousins, some choise words, "I do think he has a gee". Was hilarious!

BraziliaNZ

My Auntie's friend was talking to me at a funeral a couple of weeks ago about one of my efeminate cousins, some choice words, "I do think he has a gee". Was hilarious!

LordSutch

One or two of the male RTE weather forecasters have a strange habit of starting off the Weather forecast with "And a very good night to you" this must be an Irishism of some kind

It just sounds so weird, presumably down some parts of the country this is the way they speak, but I've never come across it before, and it is isolated to just two RTE presenters that I can think of. Usually "and a very good night to you" would be said at the end of the forecast!

deise go deo

twinQuins wrote: »

No it doesn't. "I do/does be" in English sounds awkward because that's not how you form the present continuous, which English does have.

I'm not talking about the present continious tense, I am talking about the habitual tense.


Present continuous tense: He is at the pub. (He is there now or will be in the near future)

Habitual tense: He dose be at the pub. (He is often there, He has a habit of being at the pub.)


Not the same thing at all.

danslevent

Thank god this disgusting phrase never really took off but I heard a few people saying it...."Savage cabbage" like wtf?? Cabbage is far from savage...unless boiled in the juices from the bacon.

Doc Ruby

danslevent wrote: »

Thank god this disgusting phrase never really took off but I heard a few people saying it...."Savage cabbage" like wtf?? Cabbage is far from savage...unless boiled in the juices from the bacon.

Mutated cabbage with acid for blood is pretty savage.

*shakes fist at government researchers*

Plamausing
Taylet (Toilet)
Chong gum (Chewing gum)
Tayho (any type of crisps)
Hearse instead of horse

I do love boody though. Great expression for when no other word will fit!

mrsdewinter

"It's nothing got to do with..." (instead of "it's got nothing to do with...") as trotted out by politicians of every hue when they appear on current affairs TV shows.
It must be one of the lines drummed into them at Terry Prone's Communications Clinic.

Caraville

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

'The craic'. This drives me bonkers. I don't mind 'having good craic' or 'it was good craic', but sticking a 'the' before it drives me mental.

It's even worse when people spell it "the crack". Aaaaaargggggghhh!!! :mad::mad:

Starla_o0 wrote: »

Plamausing

Hearse instead of horse

Plamasing is a brilliant word!! There's no equivalent good word for that in English.

I agree on the hearse thing though, they're notorious for that in Kildare. They also pronounce briquettes as "brickits". Freaks! :pac:

I like most Irishisms, it's mad how we're such a small country yet have such diverse phrases. Better than all the Americanisms that are creeping in.

Caraville

Caraville wrote: »

It's even worse when people spell it "the crack". Aaaaaargggggghhh!!! :mad::mad:



Plamasing is a brilliant word!! There's no equivalent good word for that in English.

I agree on the hearse thing though, they're notorious for that in Kildare. They also pronounce briquettes as "brickits". Freaks! :pac:

I like most Irishisms, it's mad how we're such a small country yet have such diverse phrases. Better than all the Americanisms that are creeping in.

Where do you think I'm getting boody and hearse from??! I was only a wee lass when I moved to kildare and the horse/hearse thing confused me terribly. I thought there was a lot of people dying on the Curragh with all the 'hearses' going around.

Jaysus how did I forget "dunkey" and "lurry" as well??

"The lurry was driving so fast it killed the dunkey instantly when it hit it, as the hearses in the field looked on. It was a boody day."

Ickle Magoo

deise go deo wrote: »

I'm not talking about the present continious tense, I am talking about the habitual tense.


Present continuous tense: He is at the pub. (He is there now or will be in the near future)

Habitual tense: He dose be at the pub. (He is often there, He has a habit of being at the pub.)


Not the same thing at all.

Would the habitual tense not be "He goes to the pub" or "He frequents the pub" in English?

twinQuins

deise go deo wrote: »

I'm not talking about the present continious tense, I am talking about the habitual tense.


Present continuous tense: He is at the pub. (He is there now or will be in the near future)

Habitual tense: He dose be at the pub. (He is often there, He has a habit of being at the pub.)


Not the same thing at all.

There is no "habitual tense". I was wrong also, it's the present simple that's used for habitual actions but that doesn't change the fact that "does be" is not a valid grammatical construct.

You would say... well, exactly what you have there: he is often at the pub. It's more long-winded but it's the correct way to do it.

I'm aware that's how you form habitual actions in Irish but this isn't Irish.

deise go deo

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

Would the habitual tense not be "He goes to the pub" or "He frequents the pub" in English?

What you have described are actions, going to or frequenting, the habitual tense describes the state of being in the pub, in the same way that 'I am in the Pub' describs a state of being in the pub in the present tense.

It is possible to describe things that happen habitually in English, but the language does not contain it as a tense within its structure.

Irish on the other hand does contain the habitual tense within its structure, you can describe something that is happening now, Tá mé sa siopa (I am in the shop) or Bím sa siopa (I do be in the shop).
The habitual tense is actually quite important in Irish, and as such is relied upon heavily in Hiberno English aslo.

Ickle Magoo

So it's a direct translation and thus good translation but bad english - gotcha. :cool:

Still makes no sense to me - I thought the definition of frequent was to visit habitually but given I don't understand what "I do be.." is attempting to portray, never mind what an "habitual tense" is - I accept that it is probably completely wrong.

deise go deo

twinQuins wrote: »

There is no "habitual tense". I was wrong also, it's the present simple that's used for habitual actions but that doesn't change the fact that "does be" is not a valid grammatical construct.

You would say... well, exactly what you have there: he is often at the pub. It's more long-winded but it's the correct way to do it.

I'm aware that's how you form habitual actions in Irish but this isn't Irish.

I never claimed it was a correct construct, it is the result of the lack of the habitual tense in Standard English, because the habitual tense is so important in Irish, it also became important in Hiberno English.
Describing someone as being often in the pub is correct, but describing them as 'they do be in the pub' feels more natural to me, and as such, I will continue to use it.

cofy

Ahh now she's suckin' deasel.

And

Give it wellie.

CarMe

Oh i love Fillum
Better than bloody "movie" any day!

paddybrady5

Shur how would ya be well.

Juicyfruit

Being greeted with "Any craic?" by people you barely know. I absolutely hate it, how do you respond to that?

Plazaman

Considering all the decades Irish peacekeepers have been serving in Lebanon, it always amazes me when people (including newsreaders) say "The Lebanon" or "The Leb". So in order to get to The Lebanon do you have to fly from The Dublin via The Heathrow and onto The Beruit.

A new irishism (I'm assuming it had originated from Gift Grub) which I love and intend to overuse is "amazeballs" :

Q : We're you out last night?
A : I was, it was amazeballs.

Doc Ruby

In general the Ulster scots accent is like nasal nails on the blackboard of my brain, but a few of the more annoying quirks are saying "thar" instead of there, ending sentences with "hai", and just overall wrapping the language around a lamp post.

And don't get me started on the Belfast accent.

Nothingbetter2d

Juicyfruit wrote: »

Any craic?

"yup it's the slit between my arse cheeks" is the correct response to that

Nothingbetter2d

Plazaman wrote: »

Considering all the decades Irish peacekeepers have been serving in Lebanon, it always amazes me when people (including newsreaders) say "The Lebanon" or "The Leb". So in order to get to The Lebanon do you have to fly from The Dublin via The Heathrow and onto The Beruit.

A new irishism (I'm assuming it had originated from Gift Grub) which I love and intend to overuse is "amazeballs" :

Q : We're you out last night?
A : I was, it was amazeballs.

amazeballs is lame.

FTGFOP

danslevent wrote: »

"Savage cabbage" like wtf?? Cabbage is far from savage...unless boiled in the juices from the bacon.

My cousin was badly mauled by a cabbage. No joke, these days he's not even able to pass a greengrocer on the other side of the street. A young life ruined.

We're more sensitive about these days but we used to torment him! We'd keep sprouts in our pockets and pelt him whenever he got too big for his boots. Ah, God be with the days.

Cee-Jay-Cee

DenMan wrote: »

I can't stand it when someone says "well" when saying hello. It sounds like they are responding to something else said to them. It doesn't make any sense.

And whats worse is the idiots that start their speil on donedeal with "Well, here is my xxxx for sale....."

Cee-Jay-Cee

Juicyfruit wrote: »

Being greeted with "Any craic?" by people you barely know. I absolutely hate it, how do you respond to that?

Naw fúck all...yerself???

Plazaman

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

amazeballs is lame.

Of course it is and hopefully annoying in equal parts hence it's an "ism" and perfect for overuse when havin the craic watchin a fillum eightin a hang sangwich.

who the fug

Plazaman wrote: »

Considering all the decades Irish peacekeepers have been serving in Lebanon, it always amazes me when people (including newsreaders) say "The Lebanon" or "The Leb". So in order to get to The Lebanon do you have to fly from The Dublin via The Heathrow and onto The Beruit.

.

Not an Irishism, sure didn't Human League have a song calling it that 30 years ago

Might have come from the fact, that before it was called The Levant

Same as one would say The Argentine

Nothingbetter2d

Plazaman wrote: »

Of course it is and hopefully annoying in equal parts hence it's an "ism" and perfect for overuse when havin the craic watchin a fillum eightin a hang sangwich.

did you pull your plum while watchin dat fillum?

Meauldsegosha

"I'll do that now in a minute"

No you won't. You'll do it now or you'll do it in a minute. People saying this annoy me.

Judgement Day

A new one I've heard one of the Newstalk presenters using recently is describing an item as 'a nice piece of kit' - how on earth has this British squaddie slang found its way onto Irish radio?

sbsquarepants

Pet Irishism hate - The type of bog dwelling cretin who isists on pronouncing an "sh" sound where an "s" is all that's required. ie, shpuds, shpiders, shparrows and so on. They all deserve a good shlap eh, slap. Fúcking simpletons:mad:

Nothingbetter2d

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Pet Irishism hate - The type of bog dwelling cretin who isists on pronouncing an "sh" sound where an "s" is all that's required. ie, shpuds, shpiders, shparrows and so on. They all deserve a good shlap eh, slap. Fúcking simpletons:mad:

its the wisht accent ya shimpleton

fishy fishy

batter instead of butter (as in rachel allen, the worst speaker in Ireland).

also sicth for sixth.

RoryMurphyJnr

package of crips

Judgement Day

In the past number of months instead of plain English - in recent months and another one favoured by Mary O'Rourke - 'flip flopping' - Wtf??

irishguitarlad

When old people say 'god be with the days', actually I don't hate it, I just find it funny

Doc Ruby

Judgement Day wrote: »

In the past number of months instead of plain English - in recent months and another one favoured by Mary O'Rourke - 'flip flopping' - Wtf??

Your thread is dead. Get over it.

vixdname

I hate:

"Givvus a mugga skawld" = "My I have a cup of tea please"

"The poor mudder is kilt with de Arthur-itis" = "My mother suffers terribly with arthritis"

"Be de hokey" = "Oh my goodness"

"Horse it into me boss" = "Make love to me right now"

"He was a harmless poor auld fella" = "The man was slightly retarded"

"Tis a soft day" = "It raining"

"There but for the grace of God" = "Thank Christ I'm not as f u c k ed up as that person there

Feisar

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

'The craic'. This drives me bonkers. I don't mind 'having good craic' or 'it was good craic', but sticking a 'the' before it drives me mental.

I know a guy who is always going on about 'having the craic' and every time I hear it I picture the stupid gob on him and feel briefly violent.

The work, the Christmas, etc.

I wonder are a lot of these to do with translations from Irish?

Judgement Day

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Your thread is dead. Get over it.

Obviously not. Don't judge everybody by your own standards, I have better things to do than revive threads for the sake of my ego.

FTGFOP

Judgement Day wrote: »

flip flopping

Was she talking about Romney?

Capt'n Midnight

ejmaztec wrote: »

A scissors.

It's a pair of feckin scissors.

Who can afford a full pair in the middle of a recession ?

mikemac1

Is that your vay hick el
We train them well in Templemore

All difficult animals are hoors.
That hoor of a heifer pinned my shoulder against the gate and that hoor of a dog has run off again.


bate off is perfectly acceptable to use.
You tell the team leader you'll be bateing off to Spar at lunchtime for a break
That's not a pet hate, that's does be something I do say myself

LordSutch wrote: »

Get your Sambo's upstairs (only in Ireland)
Sambo being a derogatory term for a black person is lost on many here in Ireland.

Yes, I learned that today in the London forum. Never knew it had such a negative meaning

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Pet Irishism hate - The type of bog dwelling cretin who isists on pronouncing an "sh" sound where an "s" is all that's required. ie, shpuds, shpiders, shparrows and so on. They all deserve a good shlap eh, slap. Fúcking simpletons:mad:

You need a weekend out Whest to relax, you seem stressed

Meleftone

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Amn't, Wtf is that supposed to mean?

And the sharp intake of breath some people do when they're listening to you. It sounds like they've been punched in the stomach, or are having a very small orgasm. Most don't even notice they are doing it.

It is an actual word

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/amn't

Seomra Mushie

Raekwon wrote: »

Ah YOU beat me too it. Everybody from outside the Pale seems to say "Yee" instead of "You", it's like a muck savage impediment or something.

I like that I and other muck savages say 'ye'. Just as I like that some Dubs say 'yous'. They're Hiberno-English utterances.