Which country is the biggest threat to "World peace"?

Immaculate Pasta

Somalia - They keep nicking white people off the east coast of Africa :mad:

charlemont

Chuck Stone wrote: »

We?

Afghanistan is lost btw.

It was truly lost whenever resources were diverted to Iraq in a vain attempt to fulfil the fantasies of neocon chicken-hawks.

It was a half-arsed job from the start anyway.

There only in Afghanistan for the Heroin anyway...They couldn't give two ****s about the place.

Scotland! Neeps and tatties washed down by gallons of irn bru, the other warlords will be quaking in their boots.




No I voted USA!

darlett

TheZohan wrote: »

The U.S. freedified all of us. Never forget.

Can you please remind us all. With a history lesson given thru song, set to the music of Never Forget by Take That....


"Now we've come so far...and????"

Sindri

The biggest threat to world peace in my opinion is any either North Korea at the moment or any nation that could severely disrupt our financial systems.

And I'm thinking in relation to disrupting our financial system that oil rich countries or countries lacking in oil reserves.

So America or China, even though we benefit some what (and I suppose historically it will be seen as initially) from what is called Pax Americana.

Samba

How come Ireland didn't make the poll? We might end up starting a war depending on how we vote

revell

Is the world in peace now?

Son Of A Vidic

bleg wrote: »

Predictable AH answers are predictable.

Ironic post is ironic.

strobe

I'm just glad we're still the good guys.

ToddyDoody

How come russia didnt make the poll or get a mention? We never seem to get much reporting on russia, my most direct experience with russia was an mp3 site (Which i browsed only!) which had subtle anti-u.s. ads on it along the lines of 'let us take care of the mess.. We'll do it with a smile on our face.. God bless you' (what exactly this was referring to was not stated but world affairs was implied).. Not that i think they're the biggest threat, just deserve a mention in the hall of 'fame'

old_aussie

Ireland

old_aussie

Sindri wrote: »

The biggest threat to world peace in my opinion is any either North Korea at the moment or any nation that could severely disrupt our financial systems.

Ireland doesn't need any help doing that, did a great job of that at home themselves.

getz

old_aussie wrote: »

Ireland doesn't need any help doing that, did a great job of that at home themselves.

how come you managed to post twice,yet it still says you have posted only 1,702 posts,anyway the biggest threat to world pease is the franco/german pact

bizmark

Likely Greece at the moment tbh

Run_to_da_hills

Israel and the USA in that order.

Pyr0

The Swiss.

They've been in the middle for far too long, they have to be planning something.

>_>
<_<

getz

getz wrote: »

how come you managed to post twice,yet it still says you have posted only 1,702 posts,anyway the biggest threat to world pease is the franco/german pact

The post count shown is the total of posts made, not the sequential post number.

mattjack

Limerick or Wicklow.

wolfpawnat

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Israel and the USA in that order.

Have to agree, and as long as they support the US supports Israel, it will always be that way!

Ellis Dee

It depends on how you define a threat to world peace, but if it means a country that is now threatening to attack another one for no reason other than to maintain its own nuclear hegemony in its region of the world and which is actively seeking to eradicate another country and people from the face of the Earth through a policy of grabbing land and resources and ethnic cleansing, then that country is certainly the second coming of nazism - the vile, racist, supremacist terror entity that calls itself Israel.:eek::eek::eek:

Fratton Fred

Chuck Stone wrote: »

We?

Afghanistan is lost btw.

It was truly lost whenever resources were diverted to Iraq in a vain attempt to fulfil the fantasies of neocon chicken-hawks.

It was a half-arsed job from the start anyway.

We as in our countries, not we as in you and I.

M cebee

right now probably wadiya

their leader nearly caused a major international incident recently

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4ctnTg7bt8

tfitzgerald

I think America will be the cause of ww3 . When the republican party win the next election they will go back on the warpath

DEFTLEFTHAND

tfitzgerald wrote: »

I think America will be the cause of ww3 . When the republican party win the next election they will go back on the warpath

I think your right, when the war to end all wars comes Uncle Sam will be at the forefront. We'll be letting them ship their nukes through Shannon of course, we wouldn't want to upset our great buddies.:rolleyes:

enfant terrible

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I think your right, when the war to end all wars comes Uncle Sam will be at the forefront. We'll be letting them ship their nukes through Shannon of course, we wouldn't want to upset our great buddies.:rolleyes:

Ya not like we need the Americans anyway, we should pair up with the Palestinians they are more our type of people.

44leto

Did anyone ever think that a war will not come, we are living in a remarkable period in history, there are very few wars in the world in comparison to the not so distant past.

Take Africa 20 years ago that continent was ablaze now there are 4 war situations and they are civil wars, since Ethiopia and Eritrea found peace there are no inter country wars in Africa. Its also interesting that Ethiopia is having an economic boom, they are now the bread basket of northern Africa They exported 1 billion in food last year.

The thing about war between to major superpowers these days is you can no longer fight them. There would be no winners. So Iran will explode an atomic bomb and that will be that, they will never deploy it.

So modern weaponry and the atomic bomb should be given a Nobel peace prize.

Thinking about this a bit more and I would say that any country that needs more food & fuel than it can provide locally or buy in from abroad will start the next war to steal those resources.

At the top of that list is the USA, China is a distant second as they are using the "East India Company" route to get resources.

NinjaK

wtf Scotland? No England/UK? They are probably the biggest sh*t-stirrers of them all.

DEFTLEFTHAND

NinjaK wrote: »

wtf Scotland? No England/UK? They are probably the biggest sh*t-stirrers of them all.

Ah their time has come and gone they're only bit part players at this stage, Britannia no longer rules the waves.

NinjaK

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Ah their time has come and gone they're only bit part players at this stage, Britannia no longer rules the waves.

Look at any conflict and they are sticking their meddling Imperial oar in, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and now Iran.

SeanW

charlemont wrote: »

Is that sarcasm or do you really believe it ?

He has good reason to fear China as a leading threat to world peace.

The United States is, unfortunately, a waning superpower. I seriously hope this does not happen, but between their economic difficulties and their military engagements, they could go the way of the Soviet Union in '89.

China on the other hand is a rising superpower and they are exremely aggressive.

Since they became communist they annexed Tibet and continue to occupy East Turkistan. They also claim Taiwan (backed by occasional displays of military force) and virtually all of the South China Sea. Including to within a few kilometres of Malaysia, Indonesia, and the Sultanate of Brunei.

Hell, their claims stretch almost 2000 km away from their lands almost all the way to Singapore.

And that's just the start, their aggressive militarisation is causing an arms race among their neighbors.

Oh and let's not forget how China's support helps the worlds most horrifying despots like the "governments" (kleptocracies is more like it) of North Korea and Myanmar, both of which are virtual client states of China.

Plus there's that small issue of the PRC government being happy to stand by while Bashar Al-Assad slaughters the Syrian people by the thousands.

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But don't let that stop you from going on about a miniscule Middle Eastern democracy (Israel) and a waning superpower (U.S.). I mean, we can't lose focus on the REAL threats now, can we?

NinjaK

SeanW wrote: »

He has good reason to fear China as a leading threat to world peace.

The United States is, unfortunately, a waning superpower. I seriously hope this does not happen, but between their economic difficulties and their military engagements, they could go the way of the Soviet Union in '89.

China on the other hand is a rising superpower and they are exremely aggressive.

Since they became communist they annexed Tibet and continue to occupy East Turkistan. They also claim Taiwan (backed by occasional displays of military force) and virtually all of the South China Sea. Including to within a few kilometres of Malaysia, Indonesia, and the Sultanate of Brunei.

Hell, their claims stretch almost 2000 km away from their lands almost all the way to Singapore.

And that's just the start, their aggressive militarisation is causing an arms race among their neighbors.

Oh and let's not forget how China's support helps the worlds most horrifying despots like the "governments" (kleptocracies is more like it) of North Korea and Myanmar, both of which are virtual client states of China.

Plus there's that small issue of the PRC government being happy to stand by while Bashar Al-Assad slaughters the Syrian people by the thousands.

=================

But don't let that stop you from going on about a miniscule Middle Eastern democracy (Israel) and a waning superpower (U.S.). I mean, we can't lose focus on the REAL threats now, can we?

wow such dribble

SeanW

NinjaK wrote: »

wow such dribble

Ok, then, dispute my claims, preferably providing facts and sources.

Run_to_da_hills

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Have to agree, and as long as they support the US supports Israel, it will always be that way!

If there is going to be an attack oh Iran we can expect Israel to strike first. It wouldn't surprise me if the first strike is a US warship in the Persian gulf with the blame put on Iran.

They are well capable of doing this through Mossad and have done similar down through history in an attempt to drag America into sorting out their problems.

Freddie59

sxt wrote: »

Iran poses zero threat to world peace, they would never in a million years attack Israel /America , because that would be a complete death warrant!

Sigh. The same was said of Hitler. Will we ever learn............:rolleyes:

NinjaK

SeanW wrote: »

Ok, then, dispute my claims, preferably providing facts and sources.

Your proof they are 'extremely aggressive' is laughable. They are the most populist country in the world, clearly they arnt going to be 100% pure good guys. But compared to the US and UK, they are Saints.

Freddie59

NinjaK wrote: »

Your proof they are 'extremely aggressive' is laughable. They are the most populist country in the world, clearly they arnt going to be 100% pure good guys. But compared to the US and UK, they are Saints.

Oh boy!:rolleyes::D

NinjaK

Freddie59 wrote: »

Sigh. The same was said of Hitler. Will we ever learn............:rolleyes:

We? This is an Irish forum, not some UK Imperialist one.

Freddie59

enfant terrible wrote: »

Ya not like we need the Americans anyway, we should pair up with the Palestinians they are more our type of people.

Speak for yourself buddy.:rolleyes: Yeah we don't really need the Yanks. We can just replace all that US investment in Ireland with the Palestinian version...........

Biggins

As of yesterday, Iran (with the elections there) even more so.

NinjaK

Freddie59 wrote: »

Speak for yourself buddy.:rolleyes: Yeah we don't really need the Yanks. We can just replace all that US investment in Ireland with the Palestinian version...........

Since when was the US government and US multinational companies linked? They dont care about our politics!

carbsy

The Peoples Republic of Cork, obviously! :P

SeanW

NinjaK wrote: »

wow such dribble

NinjaK wrote: »

Compared to the US and UK, they are Saints.

Wow, that's me pwned with your overwhelming array of proven facts.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

LMAO
:D:D

DazMarz

Eh, when has there ever been World Peace? Don't think you can threaten something that has never existed anyway...

WoollyRedHat

Madagascar, you never hear anything from them, so they must be up to something.

Toby Take a Bow

Freddie59 wrote: »

Sigh. The same was said of Hitler. Will we ever learn............:rolleyes:

That's an interesting reading of the situation. Hitler clearly showed aggressive annexing of foreign powers, and the 'peace' conference was initiated not because they thought Hitler was no threat to world peace, but because they thought by giving him what he wanted, they would placate him. They were wrong. That's all beside the point, seeing as you committed Godwin's Law.

Rolleyes, indeed.

SeanW

SeanW wrote: »

He has good reason to fear China as a leading threat to world peace.

The United States is, unfortunately, a waning superpower. I seriously hope this does not happen, but between their economic difficulties and their military engagements, they could go the way of the Soviet Union in '89.

China on the other hand is a rising superpower and they are exremely aggressive.

Since they became communist they annexed Tibet and continue to occupy East Turkistan. They also claim Taiwan (backed by occasional displays of military force) and virtually all of the South China Sea. Including to within a few kilometres of Malaysia, Indonesia, and the Sultanate of Brunei.

Hell, their claims stretch almost 2000 km away from their lands almost all the way to Singapore.

And that's just the start, their aggressive militarisation is causing an arms race among their neighbors.

Oh and let's not forget how China's support helps the worlds most horrifying despots like the "governments" (kleptocracies is more like it) of North Korea and Myanmar, both of which are virtual client states of China.

Plus there's that small issue of the PRC government being happy to stand by while Bashar Al-Assad slaughters the Syrian people by the thousands.

=================

But don't let that stop you from going on about a miniscule Middle Eastern democracy (Israel) and a waning superpower (U.S.). I mean, we can't lose focus on the REAL threats now, can we?

China appears to have a two pronged strategy,
1, use up all their (soon to be useless) US dollars to buy up as much as possible using an "East India company" type trading agreements.
2, when all else fails just overwhelm their neighbours militarily.

Part 1 is working well, will be quite some time before part 2 though.

HavingCrack

It depends how people define "world peace". If you mean a conflict on the scale of WW2 again only the US and China currently have the resources to wage a war of that scale and the Chinese are still significantly behind-they need more time before they would even consider the military option. Russia and India are catching up fast but are still some way behind. Europe is a potential tinder box, especially if the EU collapses in a cataclysmic fashion as I truly believe it is keeping the lid on nationalist, regionalist and political tensions in a way most people do not realise.

Israel is not a threat to "global" peace-certainly a Middle East war of sorts is possible. However I cannot see the US, the EU, Russia and China goign to war because Israel attacks Iran. I simply can't.

If there is a threat of another 'world war' it will come either in a post EU Europe or possibly in South East Asia if Chinese and US interests collide dramatically.

ToddyDoody wrote: »

How come russia didnt make the poll or get a mention? We never seem to get much reporting on russia, my most direct experience with russia was an mp3 site (Which i browsed only!) which had subtle anti-u.s. ads on it along the lines of 'let us take care of the mess.. We'll do it with a smile on our face.. God bless you' (what exactly this was referring to was not stated but world affairs was implied).. Not that i think they're the biggest threat, just deserve a mention in the hall of 'fame'

Russia isn't really a threat to world peace at the minute anyway. The break up of the Soviet Union severely weakened their power for some years. It's only lately that they're beginning to flex their muscles again in South Ossetia for example. I'd say in another 10 years or so Russia will probably start throwing its weight around again on a Soviet era scale. At present though China or the US present a greater threat to "world peace".

Biggins

As bad as the USA is (as some might make out - and I agree their governments are far from saints), ye do all know that since yesterday, a religious bunch of even more extremists, has gained power in Iran since yesterday?

According to a number of TV reports alone, the newer more elected (in over all numbers) bunch, make "Amadinnerjacket" look like a pussy!
If ye weren't afraid before, you have right to be now!

monty_python

sxt wrote: »

George bush labelled Iran, Iraq, and North Korea as the axis of evil. The "rogue states" label was often used liberally in the western media to catergorize countries such as North Korea, Libya , Pakistan, Iraq , Iran , Cuba Syria, Sudan and Afghanistan

Iran poses zero threat to world peace, they would never in a million years attack Israel /America , because that would be a complete death warrant!

just because all these countries dislike everything America stands for, does not mean they are a threat to "world peace" !

your auwl one