SU Elections

titan18

Just wondering, since I can't find anything on it here, does everyone know voting for this is on tomorrow and Tuesday?

Is everyone here voting, or just not care about it?

It's been quiet enough this year with elections, next two days will be crazy on campus though

pirateninja

Still not entirely sure about who I'll vote for. Reckon I'll be voting to leave USI in the referendum though..

titan18

pirateninja wrote: »

Still not entirely sure about who I'll vote for. Reckon I'll be voting to leave USI in the referendum though..

Ya,voting to leave USI too.

I'm voting Sam Ryan for deputy,Lauren Costello for Comms, Danny Keane for B&L Rep, and not sure on the others. It's between Ann Marie Harte and Eoghan Healy for President though, cant decide, and probably Audrey for Welfare although still unsure

skittlesej

Where are the elections on? I can't find info anywhere..

Aodan83

Most of the stuff I've heard about it has been people posting "vote for my friend" on Facebook. That said I've barely been on campus for about 2 weeks trying doing FYP related things.

MrsFlintstone

Most likey voting sam ryan and eoghan healy

gubbie

I haven't heard a tap about the referendum, nor is there any information up on collegeroad about it.

Out of interest, does the referendum have to pass any rules in order to be void, i.e. they have to get 10% of the possible voters to vote on it?

titan18

skittlesej wrote: »

Where are the elections on? I can't find info anywhere..

They're on tomorrow and Tuesday

gubbie wrote: »

I haven't heard a tap about the referendum, nor is there any information up on collegeroad about it.

Out of interest, does the referendum have to pass any rules in order to be void, i.e. they have to get 10% of the possible voters to vote on it?

There's very little information on it out there. Collegeroad.ie Facebook said vote yes, there's a vote yes event on Facebook, there's a vote no event, but neither contain much relevant information on it. I only heard about it yesterday off of Facebook. It's a bit of a shambles tbh

johnny-fatality

titan18 wrote: »

They're on tomorrow and Tuesday



There's very little information on it out there. Collegeroad.ie Facebook said vote yes, there's a vote yes event on Facebook, there's a vote no event, but neither contain much relevant information on it. I only heard about it yesterday off of Facebook. It's a bit of a shambles tbh

"The referendum will be the extra sheet of paper for the elections tomorrow and Monday. Vote Yes to USI Affiliation. If you have questions ask the USI Officers or UCCSU Officers out on all the campuses tomorrow."

That's laughable. Base your vote on what information an SU officer tells you (who's intrinsically biased, and I mean that technically, not insultingly) on the day of the referendum?

Essentially, they're asking students to vote without any prior discussion of the issues. I presume based on the perceived credibility of the rep instead of letting them make up their own minds after reading the information.

That's pretty much constituent of a flawed referendum. On the same weekend as a Russian election that is in the process of being condemned as flawed and corrupt by those in our own country (and, probably those taking part in this referendum), having this level of bias is a poor showing, and perhaps a little hypocritical.
I know it's only a micro, micro system of UCC SU politics, but the principle grates.

ciaradx

I know who I'm voting for the SU but still torn by the referendum. The only decent informaton I could find in the USI referendum was on page 8 in the Express. It's an article by Greg Higgins, who explains why we should vote no and disaffiliate, and Kate Acheson, who explains why we should vote yes.

ríomhaire

Could someone please tell me why I should vote for or against leaving the USI?

JohnyDarko

ríomhaire wrote: »

Could someone please tell me why I should vote for or against leaving the USI?

A completely unbiased pros/cons list help?

Pros

• They provide SU sabbat training
• They provide training for LGBT officers
• They organize protests

Cons

• There is training orginized by non-USI institutions (such as CIT, DCU and NUIM)
• They're protests aren't effective and they invite all non-USI members to them to boost numbers anyway
• They take €85,000+ of UCC student money which could otherwise be spent on something worthwhile
• They spend an inordinate amount hosting a lavish 4 day piss-up at a 4/5 star hotel for members of the various SU's plus their hangers on.
• Their protests have had little to no effect (see the "cap" on fees)
• There is no benefit they give us which we would miss if we disaffiliate

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yenom

ríomhaire wrote: »

Could someone please tell me why I should vote for or against leaving the USI?

Vote yes for jobs

IHeartChemistry

Campus today was LITTERED with these annoying canvassers. I was fit to kill! Every 10 seconds, literally, I was bombarded by about ten people jumping in my face telling me to vote for whoever. Lads, I know ye're doin it for a good purpose, but less of the being in my face please!

/rant

As for the candidates, gonna vote Harte for President, Ryan for Deputy, Costello for Comms, Walsh for Welfare. Anybody know why Cat dropped out of the race? I was gonna vote for her again!

As for the USI, I wish they'd given more information to us. The SU are biased towards it, therefore want it in and are not giving us the proper info to make our own mind up on it. I'm voting No. I hope the no gets passed!

gubbie

IHeartChemistry wrote: »

As for the candidates, gonna vote Harte for President, Ryan for Deputy, Costello for Comms, Walsh for Welfare. Anybody know why Cat dropped out of the race? I was gonna vote for her again!

I hear no ones running for USI Education so she decided to step in there instead

JohnyDarko

gubbie wrote: »

I hear no ones running for USI Education so she decided to step in there instead

Would she even be able to when/if UCC secede from the USI after the referendum?

titan18

JohnyDarko wrote: »

Would she even be able to when/if UCC secede from the USI after the referendum?

Ya, if we leave, UCC are still in it for next year afaik, and then we're out

Aodan83

JohnyDarko wrote: »

gubbie wrote: »

I hear no ones running for USI Education so she decided to step in there instead

Would she even be able to when/if UCC secede from the USI after the referendum?

Is it a USI position or just the SU? Wouldnt make sense to have people running for USI positions while also having a referendum on whether or not we want/need those positions!

JohnyDarko

Aodan83 wrote: »

Is it a USI position or just the SU? Wouldnt make sense to have people running for USI positions while also having a referendum on whether or not we want/need those positions!

Its USI. And a lot of things about it don't make a lot of sense... like them giving us such short notice that a referendum was coming up on this issue, not publicising it at all, and the SU not taking a neutral stance on it.


Also: gotta love election season

Nervosa

Voted there.

Voted No to staying with USI.

Voted to reopen all other positions.

I hate SU election time. Fcuking populatity contest.

Sully

USI is a waste of money tbh. A lot of money spent protesting on education matters which never works. They have yet to achieve anything. Their campaign to get students voting Labour in the general election was a farse which back fired with Labour cutting into education and raising fees. The response was another protest surrounded in controversy with Guards making arrests for their silly occupy idea. A lot of questions about money being spent on stuff like toilets and tents. The USI President was at the Fianna Fail Ard Fheia over the weekend which was odd seeing as they caused huge problems for students!

I'd vote No if I was a UCC Student. Waste of time and your money. They serve no purpose

ReacherCreature

Saw the slogan "vote for a-hoey". WTF.

I read it as "vote for a**hole". No offence to the person but it's a rubbish slogan.

Oafley Jones

IHeartChemistry wrote: »

Campus today was LITTERED with these annoying canvassers. I was fit to kill! Every 10 seconds, literally, I was bombarded by about ten people jumping in my face telling me to vote for whoever. Lads, I know ye're doin it for a good purpose, but less of the being in my face please!

Had to go through UCC yesterday and I was struck by the above also. I've been out of UCC for 4 years, so maybe things have changed radically, but in all the time I was there, I never remember anyone given a toss about the elections - bar those involved - and nothing like what I witnessed yesterday.

Eliot Rosewater

Nervosa wrote: »

Voted there.

Voted No to staying with USI.

Voted to reopen all other positions.

Same, except I voted against the two current officers seeking re-election. Especially in Dave Carey's case it seemed like a blatant attempt to avoid hitting the "real world" by hanging on for another year.

RE the USI referendum: the tactics involved are the same as always. They notify of the referendums in an email and attach a little "SU supports all these" and leave it at that. Exactly like the national government with the recent referenda. Though this year there were USI people hanging around ... I wonder where they got the funding for the t-shirts and leaflets?

titan18

In relation to voting RON, why would ye vote for more elections when ye hate them?

That and if you think its a popularity contest, go and read the manifestos, attend Hustings and vote on who you think is the best for the job. If people did that and took responsibility, there wouldn't need to be as much on campus flyering and trying to get people to vote

IHeartChemistry

USI just re voted in. Sickened.

pirateninja

College Rep for Arts, Celtic Studies and Social Science
Roy Sheehan 896
Ron 193

Roy Sheehan Elected

College Rep for Business and Law
Danny Keane 812
Ron 163

Danny Keane Elected

College Rep for Medicine and Health Sciences
Cillian Lineen 300 (+4) 304
Jean Marsh 291 (+4) 295
Ron 25 (8 to transfer)

Cillian Lineen Elected

College Rep for Science, Food Science and Engineering
Eoin Hanrahan 510
Kieran Birrane 242
Ron 80

Eoin Hanrahan Elected

Equality Officer
David Berry 3094
Ron 278

David Berry Elected

USI Affiliation Referendum
Total Poll 3672
Spoilt 80

Yes 2543
No 1049

Referendum Passed (UCC remains affiliated to USI)

Irish Officer
Ruth Ni Riada 1490 (+168) 1658
Ciaran O'Briain 1146 (+219) 1365
Gabhain O'Donnabhain 588 eliminated
Ron 166 eliminated

Non transferable 367

Ruth Ni Riada elected

Entertainments Officer
Total poll 3861

Ash O'Hagan 3118
Ron 403
Spoilt 340

Ash O'Hagan elected

Welfare Officer

Total poll 3861

Dave Carey 1584 (+86) 1670
Ben Nolan 633 (+75) 708
Siobhan O'Neill 497 (eliminated)
Audrey Walsh 806 (+148) 954
Ron 72 (eliminated)

Spoilt 269
Non transferable 260

Dave Carey Elected

Commercial & Communications Officer

Total poll 3819

Lauren Costello 1684
James Doc O'Doherty 1820
Ron 89

Spoilt 226

James Doc O'Doherty elected

Education Officer
Total poll 3819

PJ O'Brien 3179
Ron 333
Spoilt 307

PJ O'Brien elected

Deputy President and Campaigns

Total Poll 3810

Annie Hoey 1708 (+7) 1715
Sam Ryan 1776 (+15) 1791
Ron 103

Spoilt 223
Non transferable 81

Sam Ryan Elected.

President

Total poll 3810

Ronan Breen 1060 (+4) (+15) 1079
Ann Marie Harte 698 (+1) (+27) 726 
Eoghan Healy 1794 (+2) (+49) 1845
Nathan Jege 136
Ron 47

Spoilt 75

Eoghan Healy elected

Sully

Was there any attempt at a "No" campaign on this anyway? The Facebook group appeared very late

titan18

Sully wrote: »

Was there any attempt at a "No" campaign on this anyway? The Facebook group appeared very late

Most people didn't know there was a referendum until that late. I found out a few days before, but afaik most didn't know until last weekend.

Delighted for Sam, but Lauren not getting it was a shame. She's so far and away the best person for the job, it's a bit of a disgrace she didn't

KCAccidental

disappointed at the result of the USI referendum, but it was run in true Irish political fashion. No Info and No Publicity.

spoiled the rest of my votes as always.

UnknownSpecies

Went onto the collegeroad.ie website, no mention anywhere of the Nathan Jege lad who ran for president? Hardly fair.