Weekend Drinking = Alcoholic

vandriver

I bet he never thought that this thread would turn into a AH intervention.

I am pie

You said you drink all day until you pass out and have a hangover for 3 to 4 days in other posts. Said it's depressing, so it sounds like it's affecting way more than your weekend, stop pretending (whilst drunk if i look at the timing) that it's just a weekend thing.

Tomorrow morning, read over all your posts about booze and you tell us what conclusion you'd come to.

12 pints over the day = drunk. No if's and but. Do two things if you're man enough. One get someone to take a video of you talking about something and moving around after 10 or 12 pints. Take a look at it when you're sober. Also, don't drink on Sundays when your partner isn't drinking for the next month or so....see how you feel.

paddybrady5

I tink luckyfrank is in denial.Admitting it is the first stage of recovery.

paddybrady5

Luckyfrank going by your thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75220683 your missus cheated on you,is it possible your drink drove her to dis or her actions drove you to drinking?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Everyone has a different tolerance levels, I don't see 12 pints as being overly excessive. Its an average night out for a lot of drinkers.

ItsAWindUp

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Everyone has a different tolerance levels, I don't see 12 pints as being overly excessive. Its an average night out for a lot of drinkers.

Twelve pints is excessive, no two ways about it. This man drinks more alcohol over a day than is healthy to drink over an entire week. How anyone can term that as not being excessive is beyond me tbh.

Eric Cartman

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

Twelve pints is excessive, no two ways about it. This man drinks more alcohol over a day than is healthy to drink over an entire week. How anyone can term that as not being excessive is beyond me tbh.

putting away 12 cans in 6 hours is easy to do, this lad is pacing it over a whole day, Its going to get him a bit drunk , but its not like downing a bottle of whiskey, 12 over a day wouldnt be excessive in my book.

a lot of college students would tear through double that in an all day session

ItsAWindUp

Eric Cartman wrote: »

putting away 12 cans in 6 hours is easy to do, this lad is pacing it over a whole day, Its going to get him a bit drunk , but its not like downing a bottle of whiskey, 12 over a day wouldnt be excessive in my book.

a lot of college students would tear through double that in an all day session

They could drink 24 cans in one day? Give over would ya:rolleyes:

Op maybe you should go and get a health check just to check if any of this harmless drinking has affected your liver it dosnt sound as if your aware of the long term damage you could be doing to yourself.

charlemont

luckyfrank wrote: »

I dont drink weekdays ever but i do enjoy drinking saterday and sunday and getting pissed im a merry drunk, but my other half nags the bollix out of me,im not out in the pub im at home, i provide for everything

Do i deserve this ?

Dump her, How did you even end up with a nagger ??

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Eric Cartman wrote: »

a lot of college students would tear through double that in an all day session

they would in my hole.

TheZohanS

Charlotte Quiet Self-image wrote: »

they would in my hole.

I think you'll find you need a licence for that Charlotte Quiet Self-image.

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TheZohanS wrote: »

I think you'll find you need a licence for that Frada.

Not if I don't charge 'em.

full_irish

so luckyfrank... I'm heading to the pub fancy a few scoops?

Feisar

12 pints on a session is one this but at home on a Sunday? So basically you spend your Sunday pissed, fair enough but a bad example for your kids.

Keep in mind I used to be a heavy drinker, 14 pints of Guinness plus shorts on a night out and three day rips wouldn't have been unusual for me. This isn't the opinion of a saint here.

What use are you as a human being to your family at the weekend? How much time to you spend with kids/wife?

Quit for completely for two/three months and come back and tell me you don't need to drink.

Also, drink a proper drink, pint bottles of stout!

danslevent

I hope he has read over this thread and maybe realised something. Alcoholism is an absolutely terrible affliction but this is just the beginning so there is still hope...

dark crystal

jluv wrote: »

I don't think any of you know the true meaning of an alcoholic. So stop using the word until you do.The OP may have a problem with alcohol but he IS NOT an alcohic.There is a difference and you actually can offend those of us who are dealing with "REAL" alcoholics.Don't use the word unless you mean it..

Sure, you're just as bad by stating he 'IS NOT' an alcoholic. No one except those directly privy to the OP's case can diagnose whether he is a 'REAL' alcoholic or not. I'll say this, though - he ticks a lot of the boxes.

Anyway, without saying too much else on the matter, going by some of the OP's historic posts, I would have serious concerns about his drinking and the effect it's had and is having on his life.

CiaranC

partyatmygaff wrote: »

If he had said "I do cocaine every single weekend to relax", what would you have concluded?

Wtf are you talking about. Cocaine addicts dont just do Cocaine at the weekend recreationally. You clearly have no understanding of what addiction actually entails.

partyatmygaff

Noopti wrote: »

Yeah if he said he did cocaine while watching the match on Sunday then yeah, I would not like it. But lets leave that to the "I do cocaine on a Sunday while watching the match" thread whenever that appears ok?

You're missing the point entirely. I was talking about how alcohol seems to be viewed differently to other drugs when it comes to addiction. I was using cocaine as an extreme example. I also mentioned nicotine but strangely enough you seemed to miss that.

Also if you read my post I was not condoning his behaviour at all, I was stating that I was actually more disturbed by people (like you) who immediately jump to conclusions and make outlandish statements (just like your cocaine statement above),

If someone posts that they're drinking an excessive amount of alcohol week in/week out and despite what they're saying can't seem to break the routine it's quite fair to say they're an alcoholic or if that term offends you, they have an "alcohol problem".

As for my alleged "statement" about cocaine, there was no such thing. I didn't state anything about him and cocaine. I was comparing the way certain people viewed his alcohol usage to how people would react if he said he was using any other drug than alcohol.

then I was about what he said he does on a weekend. That does not mean I condone his behaviour, but it also doesn't mean I will immediately start making assumptions about it either.

There's no need to assume. It's quite clear.

partyatmygaff

CiaranC wrote: »

Wtf are you talking about. Cocaine addicts dont just do Cocaine at the weekend recreationally.

Again... I was comparing people's reactions to him saying "I do X amount of alcohol every weekend to relax" to how people would react if he said "I do X amount of drug Y every weekend to relax". If you read my entire post instead of just that single line, you would have noticed I mentioned nicotine in the same vein.

From my experience, people much more readily acknowledge that someone is addicted to nicotine, hard drugs or even caffeine than they do for alcohol.

starbelgrade

CiaranC wrote: »

Wtf are you talking about. Cocaine addicts dont just do Cocaine at the weekend recreationally. You clearly have no understanding of what addiction actually entails.

There's loads of people who do coke & other substances at the weekends & don't do it during the week. But the fact that they do it every weekend makes them addicted to it. It may not be on the same scale of addiction as a heroin junkie, but it's still a form of addiction.

CiaranC

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Again... I was comparing people's reactions to him saying "I do X amount of alcohol every weekend to relax" to how people would react if he said "I do X amount of drug Y every weekend to relax". If you read my entire post instead of just that single line, you would have noticed I mentioned nicotine in the same vein.

From my experience, people much more readily acknowledge that someone is addicted to nicotine, hard drugs or even caffeine than they do for alcohol.

Lets try this again. Someone who smokes only at the weekend is not a nicotine addict. Addiction entails compulsive, uncontrolled consumption of a substance, not planned, controlled, social consumption of it.

It is perfectly possible for someone to do a drug every weekend and not be addicted to it. This goes for any substance, from chocolate to heroin.

CiaranC

starbelgrade wrote: »

There's loads of people who do coke & other substances at the weekends & don't do it during the week. But the fact that they do it every weekend makes them addicted to it. It may not be on the same scale of addiction as a heroin junkie, but it's still a form of addiction.

This is absolute rubbish. By that rationale people who play hurling every Saturday are GAA addicts.

starbelgrade

CiaranC wrote: »

Lets try this again. Someone who smokes only at the weekend is not a nicotine addict. Addiction entails compulsive, uncontrolled consumption of a substance, not planned, controlled, social consumption of it.

It is perfectly possible for someone to do a drug every weekend and not be addicted to it. This goes for any substance, from chocolate to heroin.

Your definition of addiction is very narrow & one which very few people in the medical or mental health world would concur with.

But you seem to be an expert on the matter, so fire away.

starbelgrade

CiaranC wrote: »

This is absolute rubbish. By that rationale people who play hurling every Saturday are GAA addicts.

GAA isn't a substance. My point was perfectly rational - yours was just absurd.

For someone who claims to have a handle on what addiction is, you're really not making a lot of sense.

CiaranC

starbelgrade wrote: »

Your definition of addiction is very narrow & one which very few people in the medical or mental health world would concur with.

Its a bit more realistic than yours to be fair - which seems to be 'anyone who does something repeatedly is by definition an addict of it'.

Addiction is physical and/or phsycological dependence, not just habit.

starbelgrade

CiaranC wrote: »

Its a bit more realistic than yours to be fair - which seems to be 'anyone who does something repeatedly is by definition an addict of it'.

Addiction is physical and/or phsycological dependence, not just habit.

When a habit becomes a dependency then it becomes an addiction. Sometimes the line between the two can be very fine. It's not as simple or as narrowly defined as you like to make it.

ItsAWindUp

Addiction is a compulsive behaviour that you cannot control or relinguish, in spite of its destructive consequences. Which certainly seems to ne the case here.

partyatmygaff

CiaranC wrote: »

Lets try this again.

You can try something incorrect again and again and it won't make a bit of difference.

Someone who smokes only at the weekend is not a nicotine addict. Addiction entails compulsive, uncontrolled consumption of a substance, not planned, controlled, social consumption of it.

That's a novel definition, isn't it? Addiction only entails physical or psychological dependance on a substance or activity. Take coffee drinking for example. If someone absolutely needs to drink coffee every morning to function then they're addicted to caffeine. Their consumption pattern isn't necessarily compulsive, unplanned, uncontrolled or unsocial but they're still either physically or psychologically (Or both) addicted to caffeine.

It is perfectly possible for someone to do a drug every weekend and not be addicted to it. This goes for any substance, from chocolate to heroin.

He appears to be associating relaxation with alcohol. If someone takes a certain drug every single weekend in excess in order to relax then they're psychologically dependent on it. The same goes for people who smoke when they "need to relax".

saa

So she wants a compromise, if you can't cut back that could be a worrying sign but it is not our place to diagnose.
Weekend drinking= alcoholic? I would of never thought that but you have made the connection and made a thread about it, seems like this might be on your mind which is interesting. If the drinking is causing a problem in your relationship and you can't come to a compromise its time to start thinking about why that is, doesn't necessarily mean you are an alcoholic but it might mean you don't want to spend the weekend nights with her and whatever you feel about that its probably going to cause problems eventually.

I think if you try going as long as you think you can (2 wks +) without drinking that would defiantly be a good indicator of what role drink has in your life (its just hard to judge when you're either recovering or looking forward to getting drunk).

And you might be thinking but I don't want to do that but it is choosing going out every weekend or staying in with your partner, one has to be a priority and one is put aside so its up to you, you are not providing for everything if you really think (hate to say it) her needs and her being content is not important because she has a roof over her head, you can buy a good relationship or come back to it later once it disintegrates a lot of the time.