Ladies A Question

Sindri · 05-03-2012 2:29am #1

Ladies of AH, I have a question for you.

I was wondering have you ever felt, say in your occupation or in general, marginalized by men? I'm not saying intentionally by men but do you feel it happens and have you ever felt you're included maybe because of men flirting with you? Or is your normal interaction with male friends or colleagues usually revolve around subtle flirting?

Have you ever felt your conduct or behaviour is appraised differently than to mens?

Are your opinions, sometimes flippantly, rejected out of hand by men?

And have you ever felt it was maybe because you were a woman? Or for another reason?

Deus Ex Machina · 05-03-2012 2:32am

Nigga you gay

Sindri · 05-03-2012 2:33am

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

Nigga you gay

How eloquent, dear sir. I can see literary accolades in store for you in the near future.

Kylo Ren · 05-03-2012 2:36am

I am a strong independent black woman and I don't need no man! Mmm Hmmmm.

MickySticks · 05-03-2012 2:38am

Keno 92 wrote: »

I am a strong independent black woman and I don't need no man! Mmm Hmmmm.

Chandler?

Fenian Army · 05-03-2012 2:39am

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

Nigga you gay

Nearly choked when I read that, brilliant

hondasam · 05-03-2012 2:40am

Sindri wrote: »

Ladies of AH, I have a question for you.

No

I was wondering have you ever felt, say in your occupation or in general, marginalized by men? I'm not saying intentionally by men but do you feel it happens and have you ever felt you're included maybe because of men flirting with you? Or is your normal interaction with male friends or colleagues usually revolve around subtle flirting?

No

Have you ever felt your conduct or behaviour is appraised differently than to mens?

No

Are your opinions, sometimes flippantly, rejected out of hand by men?

No

And have you ever felt it was maybe because you were a woman? Or for another reason?

No

hattoncracker · 05-03-2012 2:40am

Sindri wrote: »

Ladies of AH, I have a question for you.

I was wondering have you ever felt, say in your occupation or in general, marginalized by men? I'm not saying intentionally by men but do you feel it happens and have you ever felt you're included maybe because of men flirting with you? Or is your normal interaction with male friends or colleagues usually revolve around subtle flirting?

Have you ever felt your conduct or behaviour is appraised differently than to mens?

Are your opinions, sometimes flippantly, rejected out of hand by men?

And have you ever felt it was maybe because you were a woman? Or for another reason?

Yes, is the short answer. Started a college course last year and was the only girl.. At the beginning I had to be quite assertive and confident, but I earned their respect over time, eventually came out with some of the highest masks in the class.

Posy · 05-03-2012 2:41am

Sindri wrote: »

Or is your normal interaction with male friends or colleagues usually revolve around subtle flirting?

No. But I'm the manager, so it wouldn't be too appropriate!

Are your opinions, sometimes flippantly, rejected out of hand by men?
And have you ever felt it was maybe because you were a woman? Or for another reason?

"It's obviously because I'm a woman, the b@stards!!" wouldn't generally be first thing I'd think if someone disagreed with me at work anyway. There's usually a reason to back up if an idea is rejected or disagreed with.

Dudess · 05-03-2012 2:46am

In my personal experience, marginalisation at work for me has been by women - that was just in one job. Otherwise, no.

Sauve · 05-03-2012 2:47am

Too many questions in one post- I'd answer if I had the time to write an essay.

Sindri · 05-03-2012 2:48am

Fenian Army wrote: »

Nearly choked when I read that, brilliant

It's not brilliant. What uncouth oaf of a peasant are you?

There was absolutely no subtlety, it's only merit is that of shock and racial stereotyping.

I expected more from the illustrious dilettante that is Deux Es Machina, but I shouldn't have been surprised. If he couldn't come up with an original username then I probably have too high of an estimation of him.

Sauve · 05-03-2012 2:50am

Relax Sindri, this is AH. What did you think would happen?

Sindri · 05-03-2012 2:51am

Sauve wrote: »

Relax Sindri, this is AH. What did you think would happen?

I was only messing.

It's because Deux Ex Machina is a writer.

SugarCoat · 05-03-2012 2:52am

Dudess wrote: »

In my personal experience, marginalisation at work for me has been by women - that was just in one job. Otherwise, no.

agree 100% people seem to forget about the female misogynists :pac:

Fenian Army · 05-03-2012 2:52am

Sindri wrote: »

It's not brilliant. What uncouth oaf of a peasant are you?

There was absolutely no subtlety, it's only merit is that of shock and racial stereotyping.

I expected more from the illustrious dilettante that is Deux Es Machina, but I shouldn't have been surprised. If he couldn't come up with an original username then I probably have too high of an estimation of him.

The unexpected can be hilarious.

Get a sense of humor for gods sake

Babybuff · 05-03-2012 2:53am

Sindri wrote: »

Ladies of AH, I have a question for you.

I was wondering have you ever felt, say in your occupation or in general, marginalized by men? I'm not saying intentionally by men but do you feel it happens and have you ever felt you're included maybe because of men flirting with you? Or is your normal interaction with male friends or colleagues usually revolve around subtle flirting?

Have you ever felt your conduct or behaviour is appraised differently than to mens?

Are your opinions, sometimes flippantly, rejected out of hand by men?

And have you ever felt it was maybe because you were a woman? Or for another reason?

equally by both genders if I'm honest. I do have one male friend who does make life kind of miserable though but I'm convinced he's slightly mentally retarded at this point.

edit: I just realised it's actually because I wouldn't consider him an attractive man and I probably don't feed his ego enough for him to feel better about himself. he's one of those needy types. Grand so, nothing to see here.

Sindri · 05-03-2012 3:01am

I was just wondering because in the handbook given to all teachers on how to manage a class room it states that the teacher should allow the male students to dominate discussion, as in this is normal and the intended purpose I suppose is that it is more constructive and for the female students to contribute a bit passively and I was wondering if this continued on in later life.

Or if women ever felt this way.

Bullchomper · 05-03-2012 3:12am

You will always have strong characters in groups, whether they are female or male is irrelevant. A dominant personality is not dependent on what they're packing.

travelledpengy · 05-03-2012 3:25am

I like lamp

WindSock · 05-03-2012 3:27am

Yes but it might also have been down to the fact that i am a bit of an asshole because no one understood my hilarious jokes.

Katgurl · 05-03-2012 3:46am

Sindri wrote: »

I was just wondering because in the handbook given to all teachers on how to manage a class room it states that the teacher should allow the male students to dominate discussion, as in this is normal and the intended purpose I suppose is that it is more constructive and for the female students to contribute a bit passively and I was wondering if this continued on in later life.

Or if women ever felt this way.

what handbook is this?

The only time I've ever experienced it is things like clients donating rugby tickets and the girls not even being considered. However working in sales is pretty straightforward - if you're top of the sales board you are flavour of the month and vice versa. I've never experienced gender discrimination.

Chuck Stone · 05-03-2012 3:47am

Stop trying to intimidate peeple with your big wurds Sindri. :pac:

policarp · 05-03-2012 3:53am

Sindri wrote: »

Ladies of AH, I have a question for you.

Why are you bored and why do you cry after sex?
Do you think the ladies of AH can answer these questions?
Maybe bedtime. . .

Sindri · 05-03-2012 3:56am

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Stop trying to intimidate peeple with your big wurds Sindri. :pac:

But my upper body muscle mass is puny.

Did you see my reply to you yesterday where I said:

Sindri wrote:

WTF's with your face? Oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

That was funjy and you were proper owned.:P

Sindri · 05-03-2012 3:58am

policarp wrote: »

Why are you bored and why do you cry after sex?
Do you think the ladies of AH can answer these questions?
Maybe bedtime. . .

Oi! I will kick you in the vajoina.:mad:

mickrock · 05-03-2012 3:59am

Sindri wrote: »

in the handbook given to all teachers on how to manage a class room it states that the teacher should allow the male students to dominate discussion, as in this is normal and the intended purpose I suppose is that it is more constructive and for the female students to contribute a bit passively.

Where's the problem?

policarp · 05-03-2012 4:08am

Sindri wrote: »

Oi! I will kick you in the vajoina.:mad:

Why?
I only mentioned what you posted earlier. . .

Sindri · 05-03-2012 4:09am

mickrock wrote: »

Where's the problem?

It's not a problem.

I'm just pondering the differences between the sexes in social interaction, and in courtship, men tend to lead or dominate a conversation for example and I was wondering if women ever felt perturbed by this. Or do they notice the social dynamics and their role within, that may appear to be grossly normal, and ingrained.

Sindri · 05-03-2012 4:12am

policarp wrote: »

Why?
I only mentioned what you posted earlier. . .

They were taken out of context! I abjure!

Now where may I find the present location of your vajoina?

Is it....a landmark?

Babybuff · 05-03-2012 4:18am

Sindri wrote: »

It's not a problem.

I'm just pondering the differences between the sexes in social interaction, and in courtship, men tend to lead or dominate a conversation for example and I was wondering if women ever felt perturbed by this. Or do they notice the social dynamics and their role within, that may appear to be grossly normal, and ingrained.

are you female?
I'm sure there will be plenty of other women around at a reasonable hour to ponder your question. Doubt many of them give a feck though, most women I know like being dominated by men.

Daftendirekt · 05-03-2012 4:19am

Sindri wrote: »

I was just wondering because in the handbook given to all teachers on how to manage a class room it states that the teacher should allow the male students to dominate discussion, as in this is normal and the intended purpose I suppose is that it is more constructive and for the female students to contribute a bit passively and I was wondering if this continued on in later life.

For real?

Sindri · 05-03-2012 4:24am

Babybuff wrote: »

are you female?
I'm sure there will be plenty of other women around at a reasonable hour to ponder your question. Doubt many of them give a feck though, most women I know like being dominated by men.

Possibly one of the points I'm trying to consider for intellectual stimulation.

Babybuff · 05-03-2012 4:27am

Sindri wrote: »

Possibly one of the points I'm trying to consider for intellectual stimulation.

I believe ya, millions wouldn't.
Does it not fall under the category of the replication of the daddy figure theory myth thing?

policarp · 05-03-2012 4:30am

Sindri wrote: »

They were taken out of context! I abjure!

Now where may I find the present location of your vajoina?

Is it....a landmark?

You sure are borded. . .(sic). . .

Sindri · 05-03-2012 4:31am

Babybuff wrote: »

I believe ya, millions wouldn't.
Does it not fall under the category of the replication of the daddy figure theory myth thing?

No just pondering the workings of the female mind and their contribution towards social interaction between the sexes.

Sindri · 05-03-2012 4:32am

policarp wrote: »

You sure are borded. . .(sic). . .

Yeah, so what if I'm (sic)? I won't take the medication as it only makes things worse and it numbs me.

Babybuff · 05-03-2012 4:35am

Sindri wrote: »

No just pondering the workings of the female mind and their contribution towards social interaction between the sexes.

Not sure it would be wise to generalise but most straight women seek to be validated by men, the easiest way for them to do that is to give them what they want. Would you agree?

NoHornJan · 05-03-2012 4:41am

Sindri wrote: »

Oi! I will kick you in the vajoina.:mad:

Sindri wrote: »

They were taken out of context! I abjure!

Now where may I find the present location of your vajoina?

Is it....a landmark?

Where is the vajoina?

Sindri · 05-03-2012 4:58am

NoHornJan wrote: »

Where is the vajoina?

It's a mysterious location out in the nether regions.

It is said once one enters it, one may never leave...:eek:

VagnerLove · 05-03-2012 5:15am

ahahaha the first reply was funny!

mickrock · 05-03-2012 5:16am

Sindri wrote: »

It's a mysterious location out in the nether regions.

It is said once one enters it, one may never leave...:eek:

You're mixing it up with the Hotel California.

IrishEyes19 · 05-03-2012 7:15am

Sindri wrote: »

It's not a problem.

I'm just pondering the differences between the sexes in social interaction, and in courtship, men tend to lead or dominate a conversation for example and I was wondering if women ever felt perturbed by this. Or do they notice the social dynamics and their role within, that may appear to be grossly normal, and ingrained.

men mostly dominate a conversation. Not in my house or social circle anyway. Pretty much equal. I don't think you can put any percentages or values on that anymore, OP, there is no such thing imo of vast differences in social dynamics and the role of women/men anymore. You choose where you fit in and how effective your role is. For example, with the issue of dominating a conversation; it'll only happen if you allow it to. It's not a case of anymore of a woman being the put up and shut up role anymore and not being the decisive figure in a household.

The only area where there are differences in dynamics is the law and workplace for women in terms of pay and possibly career progression in some countries in politics and business, men tend to be the higher majority.

IrishEyes19 · 05-03-2012 7:20am

Babybuff wrote: »

Not sure it would be wise to generalise but most straight women seek to be validated by men, the easiest way for them to do that is to give them what they want. Would you agree?

Definately not wise

I'm not throwing a feminist spanner into the works here. But does your reading list come from the early 1900's? No independent woman seeks to be validated by a man. I could easily throw it back that men seek to be validated by women too by the way they dress, speak, impress. People do seek validation on some points but there is no clear point that states a woman needs and seeks to be validated by men to feel whole.

What's your argument for that point anyway. why does a woman seek validation from men in your opinion?

mconigol · 05-03-2012 9:34am

hattoncracker wrote: »

Yes, is the short answer. Started a college course last year and was the only girl.. At the beginning I had to be quite assertive and confident, but I earned their respect over time, eventually came out with some of the highest masks in the class.

They let women in college now?

hattoncracker · 05-03-2012 9:40am

mconigol wrote: »

hattoncracker wrote: »

Yes, is the short answer. Started a college course last year and was the only girl.. At the beginning I had to be quite assertive and confident, but I earned their respect over time, eventually came out with some of the highest masks in the class.

They let women in college now?

They do... Although not a lot of them apply for Computer Systems and Networking Technology apparently..

I don't think it was just because I was a girl, I'm 25 now, was 24 at the time, they were mostly 19/20/21.. I wasn't the only mature, but the only girl. Plus I was coming into the second year of it so they already had their cliques formed. they turned out to be really sweet though!

pickarooney · 05-03-2012 10:17am

hattoncracker wrote: »

Yes, is the short answer. Started a college course last year and was the only girl.. At the beginning I had to be quite assertive and confident, but I earned their respect over time, eventually came out with some of the highest masks in the class.

I would have thought mask-making would attract a more even demographic split.

mconigol · 05-03-2012 11:03am

hattoncracker wrote: »

They do... Although not a lot of them apply for Computer Systems and Networking Technology apparently..

I don't think it was just because I was a girl, I'm 25 now, was 24 at the time, they were mostly 19/20/21.. I wasn't the only mature, but the only girl. Plus I was coming into the second year of it so they already had their cliques formed. they turned out to be really sweet though!

Could have saved yourself a whole lot of time by throwing on one of these

They would have treated you like a God from the beginning :cool:

Dravokivich · 05-03-2012 11:10am

hondasam wrote: »

No

No

No

No

No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFd5Cci_pE4

:cool::pac:

AeoNGriM · 05-03-2012 11:16am

hattoncracker wrote: »

Yes, is the short answer. Started a college course last year and was the only girl.. At the beginning I had to be quite assertive and confident, but I earned their respect over time, eventually came out with some of the highest masks in the class.

What has one got to do with the other?

What does being popular or accepted by your classmates have anything to do with your grades?

(I'm assuming that was a typo and you meant marks)

hattoncracker · 05-03-2012 11:16am

pickarooney wrote: »

hattoncracker wrote: »

Yes, is the short answer. Started a college course last year and was the only girl.. At the beginning I had to be quite assertive and confident, but I earned their respect over time, eventually came out with some of the highest masks in the class.

I would have thought mask-making would attract a more even demographic split.

Damnit, autocorrect!!

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