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Dragons Den 2012

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    #92
    M cebee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    Hoffmans wrote: »
    cant believe yer man invested in that tyre crap, with only american safety accredation, what use is that in the eu.....
    couldnt believe it and no exclusivity either


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    #93
    xsiborg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    Lynfo wrote: »
    Yes, but they then have to be fixed, this concept will keep the tyre going until it legally has to be changed. ie you'll never know you got a nail or whatever in the tyre.

    cost to the consumer was ridiculous for a start, and then €25k for marketing and to get other investors interested? no thanks! ;)


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    #94
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    70 Products, way too much.


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    #95
    xsiborg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    120k investment to pay someone else's wages? jesus h christ, no! :rolleyes:


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    #96
    M cebee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    bet they dont have 250k


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    #97
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Floating it on the stockmarket:D


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    #98
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    15% for 250,000.


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    #99
    bijapos
    Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭bijapos


    Fair play to your man for sticking it out, hope he does well. I know from an ex that its incredibly cheap to make bath salts and the like, its all profit once they are properly tested.

    Nice to see he's prepared to make it in Ireland too.


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    #100
    leggo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    That man is ****ing insane. Having Gavin on board with so much cash from an early stage. Madness...


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    #101
    xsiborg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    15% for 250,000.

    pie in the sky valuation, the producers should have a financial analyst examine the investee's figures before wasting time putting them on tv... :rolleyes:


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    #102
    bijapos
    Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭bijapos


    leggo wrote: »
    That man is ****ing insane. Having Gavin on board with so much cash from an early stage. Madness...

    I thought he was right, he has already invested €100,000 in cash and has €150,000 of his own ready to invest and more importantly he is readly to let it grow at its own speed. He has his own business as back up and has received a lot of publicity tonight.

    Gavin looking for 45% was a bit cheeky seeing that the product is ready to go. I think the Dragons are a bit too greedy myself, 25% would have been a good compromise for all.

    I'll keep an eye out for his stuff and give it a try when I see it.


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    #103
    leggo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    So he's willing to match the amount of capital that the investor does. Theoretically, they're both paying for 50% and he had talked Gavin down to 35%. He could have easily gone down to 30% by cheekily suggesting Gavin round down instead of rounding up. For a €250,000 investment that'll either tank or take off, to have that capital readily available and an investor who knows how to take it to market on board (plus Gavin is going to be committed dropping that kind of dough on it).

    Nah, I'm sorry, I admired him when I thought he was using his poker face successfully but the end result is mental.

    He could still succeed, mind, but now he's doing it on his own. The product isn't a banker and he has never done anything on the scale of floating a product to the market before (else he wouldn't need an investor!) I wish him luck but he's made his life a lot more difficult with that decision.


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    #104
    xsiborg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    he had no research done on the investors as Gavin Duffy would have tied this in quite nicely with his tanning products and could've got it to market in the morning through the same distribution channels as his tanning products, thats why i reckon he was so driven to get in on it, which is why the guy was a fool to turn him down too!


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    #105
    Lynfo
    Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭Lynfo


    xsiborg wrote: »
    cost to the consumer was ridiculous for a start, and then €25k for marketing and to get other investors interested? no thanks! ;)

    I'm not saying it wasa good deal, I'm pointing out that they're not the same as run flats.


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    #106
    Lisha
    Registered Users Posts: 8,693 ✭✭✭Lisha


    I can't wait to see what had Gavin in tears in the das for next Dragon's den:eek:


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    #107
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Starting in 5-4-3-2-1..............


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    #108
    Mr.Crinklewood
    Registered Users Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Feck it. Titanic was crap, this has to be better.


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    #109
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Hello Bob.


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    #110
    Mr.Crinklewood
    Registered Users Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Good neighbours > sensormind.


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    #111
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Her product could make Billions, my eye:rolleyes:


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    #112
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    What if ya came home pissed, falling all over the place.


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    #113
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Heap of crap, will never make money.


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    #114
    amdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    What was Nicholas' "upcycle" product specifically?


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    #115
    leggo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    I disagree. An elderly person having a fall, say, in the wee hours won't be helped by the neighbours who may not visit for 12-18 hours. This is like an automated Phonewatch type product in that you'll be immediately notified, and has massive potential for growth over time. I loved it and I'm even considering buying one for my grandmother.


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    #116
    Mr.Crinklewood
    Registered Users Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Feck off to the BBC Dragons Den.


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    #117
    amdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »
    Feck off to the BBC Dragons Den.

    What's the name of their product?


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    #118
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    40% Bad deal, dont take it.


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    #119
    Mr.Crinklewood
    Registered Users Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    amdublin wrote: »
    What's the name of their product?

    Don't actually know to be honest.


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    #120
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Wait for the tears.


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    #121
    Silvio.Dante
    Site Banned Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Silvio.Dante


    amdublin wrote: »
    What's the name of their product?

    Amber & Ginger, I think...:)


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